Originally posted by Phantom Ghost
Problem is that Batman REGULARLY fights these villians and he know their methods Frank doesn't and that puts him at an disadvantage. Not to mention the fact that Batman has far more resources/weaponary, is the world's best detective, best tactican/strategist on earth (Deathstroke being his only equal), and is simply a better fighter/thinker then Frank all around.
That's just it though. All of Batman's villians know how he fights, know how he works.
They would NEVER suspect a straightforward, frontal assualt through the front doors. Never. Not in a million years would they be prepared for something like that.
Especially since they've never heard of him in their universe, heh.
Punisher walks right in, and places a bullet between the eyes of each villian he sees in each stronghold. That's all. Just like that. No talking, no acrobatics, no fancy moves. Just a bullet between all their eyes.
Clayface and Bane would definitely give him trouble though. I think he could eventually take Bane, but never truly defeat Clayface.
Originally posted by King KAM
if he is going to be straightforward then that would be too easy.......he would get shot by a clayface henchman.....if he is frontal he will only make his death swift.
Yes, just like all of those other herchman who've swiftly killed him when he walked right in and shot them dead. 🙄
Actually, Pun does use "tricks" -- stuff like stun grenades, frag grenades, claymore mines and the like. He just doesn't bother with needless theatrics, endless banter ... and, most of all, with prolonged hand-to-hand combat when a few bullets are so much faster, easier ... and more final besides.
Trying to say he's going to be killed by a random mook just because he doesn't spring around in somersaults like a giant berserk flea or spend 10 minutes in a heroic pose announcing the evils of his targets and telling them all about how their villiany is finished is ludicrous. You're really reaching here, man. No offense, but you are. 😉
Originally posted by Orestes
Yes, just like all of those other herchman who've swiftly killed him when he walked right in and shot them dead. 🙄Actually, Pun does use "tricks" -- stuff like stun grenades, frag grenades, claymore mines and the like. He just doesn't bother with needless theatrics, endless banter ... and, most of all, with prolonged hand-to-hand combat when a few bullets are so much faster, easier ... and more final besides.
Trying to say he's going to be killed by a random mook just because he doesn't spring around in somersaults like a giant berserk flea or spend 10 minutes in a heroic pose announcing the evils of his targets and telling them all about how their villiany is finished is ludicrous. You're really reaching here, man. No offense, but you are. 😉
Originally posted by King KAM
straight forward, sideways, it doesnt matter he will not beat the Joker, it doesnt matter he is too smart, he wont get the Riddler, nor Lex.
Yes, of course; you're absolutely right. Batman is, after all, the guy who can beat Galactus and Thanos at the same time. I forget.
And of course Joker isn't just a crazed wacko whom Batman had to save from Punisher ... no, he was just faking that. Especially since he can call 5th-dimension imp powers into his person at will. And also the Mask, I suppose, since he once got to wear that.
The Joker is a god incarnate, and only the great Batgod, Destroyer of Worlds and Conquerer of Galactus, Thanos and hell why not Jobberseid ... can possibly defeat him. Worlds crumble under his mighty kevlar-booted feet ...
I think once he sneezed and blew away a galaxy, didn't he?
Well anyway, forgive me for doubting. 🙄
Originally posted by Orestes
Yes, of course; you're absolutely right. Batman is, after all, the guy who can beat Galactus and Thanos at the same time. I forget.And of course Joker isn't just a crazed wacko whom Batman had to save from Punisher ... no, he was just faking that. Especially since he can call 5th-dimension imp powers into his person at will. And also the Mask, I suppose, since he once got to wear that.
The Joker is a god incarnate, and only the great Batgod, Destroyer of Worlds and Conquerer of Galactus, Thanos and hell why not Jobberseid ... can possibly defeat him. Worlds crumble under his mighty kevlar-booted feet ...
I think once he sneezed and blew away a galaxy, didn't he?
Well anyway, forgive me for doubting. 🙄
Oh yeah your absolutley right..im sooooooo wrong, Punisher is far too good of a shot, and he is sooooo ruthless no-way anyone could cope to his aggression, it doesnt matter if anyone outsmarts Frank, because he is the greatest shot ever and will shoot and kill any crazy number of henchmen ever, he is so good of a killer, that when he got into a fist fight with wolverine, and he got his arm broken along with his hand , and his face looked a bloody mess, but he just wanted to make logan feel good, Punisher is able to kill any man on the planet he wishes without any means of strategy he will just go and do it, because he is the ultimate killer, better than weapon X, better than even the Angel of death. Frank kills off some goons and mobb bosses and that makes him god of all assasins......
WRONG!, take you and your ignorance , and hit the road, like i said before he isnt smart enough to grasp the concepts, and niether are you, so i have pitty on you for missing out on such good characters, but you just dont got the vision, so you are doomed to a life of mediocracy, may the great comic gods take pitty on your poor soul.
Originally posted by King KAM
hahahahahaha, too bad your not funny, just because the joker is good at prep and is able to beat Punisher doesnt make him a god, how about we flip this?Oh yeah your absolutley right..im sooooooo wrong, Punisher is far too good of a shot, and he is sooooo ruthless no-way anyone could cope to his aggression, it doesnt matter if anyone outsmarts Frank, because he is the greatest shot ever and will shoot and kill any crazy number of henchmen ever, he is so good of a killer, that when he got into a fist fight with wolverine, and he got his arm broken along with his hand , and his face looked a bloody mess, but he just wanted to make logan feel good, Punisher is able to kill any man on the planet he wishes without any means of strategy he will just go and do it, because he is the ultimate killer, better than weapon X, better than even the Angel of death. Frank kills off some goons and mobb bosses and that makes him god of all assasins......
WRONG!, take you and your ignorance , and hit the road, like i said before he isnt smart enough to grasp the concepts, and niether are you, so i have pitty on you for missing out on such good characters, but you just dont got the vision, so you are doomed to a life of mediocracy, may the great comic gods take pitty on your poor soul.
Sure, take "pitty" on me for my ignorance. 🙄
And while Frank's a good shot, my argument is more for his INTELLIGENCE (of which he has plenty) than his raw gunplay.
But look, screw Punisher and Batman. I'M not funny?? 😠
Well, hell. So much for throwing on a clown suit and having a go at the villian thing myself. 😕 Maybe they've got openings in the henchman department? At least then I don't have to have a crazy gimmick or wear spandex. I'm in pretty good shape, but the idea of me in full-body spandex still scares the hell out of me ... 😘
Look punisher will kill joker, please come up with a reasonable series of events where joker would win...i've herd joker setting up a double and after frank shots him frank would go check the body and get gassed, wrong...when does frank ever check the body, not often, once he sees the body hit the ground he moves on, and frank is not stupid...and like i said before frank could just take joker out first before anyone knows frank is in town...
Originally posted by jgiant
Look punisher will kill joker, please come up with a reasonable series of events where joker would win...i've herd joker setting up a double and after frank shots him frank would go check the body and get gassed, wrong...when does frank ever check the body, not often, once he sees the body hit the ground he moves on, and frank is not stupid...and like i said before frank could just take joker out first before anyone knows frank is in town...
Originally posted by King KAMEven Joker doesnt know Joker's hideout. He's ****ing loony.
we did come up with a resonable series of event for joker, and he is not reasonable, what can punisher do to kill joker, he wont fall for stupid tricks, or walk into bomb threat, and NOBODY knows his hideoout, he aint like penguins hes smart enough to keep to himself.
Originally posted by jgiantExcept that the THREAD SAYS THEY KNOW HES COMING.
Look punisher will kill joker, please come up with a reasonable series of events where joker would win...i've herd joker setting up a double and after frank shots him frank would go check the body and get gassed, wrong...when does frank ever check the body, not often, once he sees the body hit the ground he moves on, and frank is not stupid...and like i said before frank could just take joker out first before anyone knows frank is in town...