Anakin and Vader ROTS vs. Dooku

Started by Fishy5 pages

Right... So i'm not going to listen to you anymore.

I'm not denying Dooku's superiority. But it's rather irksome how Dooku is becoming this Dueling God. But here, I doubt that the dual Skywalkers have a chance. Light Side Anakin alone is headstrong, and Vader. . . well, he gets to, and I'm quoting you on this Janus, 'pay half off at the tanning salon.' And they lack in full the essence of comraderie and flawless teamwork that was shared by the Light Anakin and Obi-Wan.

Originally posted by Darth Faunus
I'm not denying Dooku's superiority. But it's rather irksome how Dooku is becoming this Dueling God. But here, I doubt that the dual Skywalkers have a chance. Light Side Anakin alone is headstrong, and Vader. . . well, he gets to, and I'm quoting you on this Janus, 'pay half off at the tanning salon.' And they lack in full the essence of comraderie and flawless teamwork that was shared by the Light Anakin and Obi-Wan.

I agree.. It's like Dooku's getting stronger and stronger with the days on this Forum, the next step will probably be Dooku being better than Sidious. Dooku fan galore here.

It's called thinking outside of the box. Dooku has displayed Force powers and lightsaber techniques that make him one of the heaviest hitters in the series. He beats Obi-Wan with relative ease, and those few times he didn't give ground but instead attacked Anakin the boy was on his back (See the kick in particular. Imagine in a swordfight catching someone with the Force, choking them and tossing them like a ragdoll, all the while backkicking a young man behind you and a reputed warrior, in less than a few seconds. That moment right there told me he wasn't inferior to either of them even together.)

I think it's amusing that the battle with Dooku in ROTS mirrors Luke versus Vader in ROTJ: a younger, less experienced and headstrong individual defeats the second strongest Sith in the galaxy in scenarios which are highly suspicious. (I'm of the mind that Vader probably threw the fight, even if only to a degree.) Take a look and see how many simularities there are between them.

Originally posted by Deus Ex
I think it's amusing that the battle with Dooku in ROTS mirrors Luke versus Vader in ROTJ: a younger, less experienced and headstrong individual defeats the second strongest Sith in the galaxy in scenarios which are highly suspicious. (I'm of the mind that Vader probably threw the fight, even if only to a degree.) Take a look and see how many simularities there are between them.

That's GL saving a few bucks on story writing for you. lol.

Seriously though, the fights are supposed to be similar. They are close, except Luke rejects the Darkside where Anakin does not. Luke was also probably closer to Vader in power than Anakin was to Dooku.

Vader and Anakin might win, but I doubt it, even if they declared a temporary truce to battle Dooku together before they duked it out I doubt they'd fight very well along side each other. Vader would probably accidentally stab Anakin and then Tyranus would defeat Vader.

Yeah I think Dooku would win the fight but I'm not really sure. It's a difference fighting Obi & Anakin than fighting Anakin & Anakin. Note that Obi-Wan was a Soresu master and defended more than he attacked and thought before he did. Anakin had a really agressive style and rushed into combat. Anakin was also a very good swordsman at this time and it would probably be hard to parry Anakins attacks x2 when Dooku couldent control 1 Anakin in ROTS. It also might be hard for him to use the force on them because he will constantly be attacked. But even, dispite all this I belive Dooku would have a chance since he is the best duellist in the council and has really strong force powers. But as I said I'm not sure.

Oh my.. In the OT Vader was supposed to be the legendary warrior, Palpatine even let him kill Dooku because he saw him as an incredible talent.. But now everybody's 'thinking outside the box' and Dooku turns out to be legendary.. I'm beginning to hate the prequel trilogy.. 🙁

Originally posted by darthsith19
Vader and Anakin might win, but I doubt it, even if they declared a temporary truce to battle Dooku together before they duked it out I doubt they'd fight very well along side each other. Vader would probably accidentally stab Anakin and then Tyranus would defeat Vader.

He would accidently stab Anakin? 😕
That's a creepy way to argue..

Originally posted by overlord
Oh my.. In the OT Vader was supposed to be the legendary warrior, Palpatine even let him kill Dooku because he saw him as an incredible talent.. But now everybody's 'thinking outside the box' and Dooku turns out to be legendary.. I'm beginning to hate the prequel trilogy.. 🙁

Uh, Anakin was a very good fighter, and had potential to be perhaps one of the best. But legendary? This is wikipedia fanboy BS. Dooku is simply that much better. He's an eighty year old jedi master and the only practitioner of the refinement of lightsaber fighting form. Plus, he shows some of the most considerable Force manipulation in the entire series besides Yoda and Sidious. On screen, no one else displays anything close to his level, except of course Yoda and Sidious who are probably higher.

And "thinking outside of the box" is one of the wonders of free will. If you mock thinking outside of the box, you shouldn't neccessarily be opposed to everyone telling you what to think.

Whatever, I was just saying that in the OT Vader was supposed to be the greatest warrior ever, if Dooku was really as good as you fanboys say, why did Sidious order Dooku's death?
I know you all think Sidious is wack, but I think he isn't as stupid as everybody thinks.. I will cling crying to this opinion forever.

He ordered Dooku's death because the Count, not 80, wouldn't be of use for too much longer. Anakin, however, was about a quarter of his age, and prophecized to be the most powerful being the galaxy had ever seen. Sidious, however, didn't account for Obi-Wan Kenobi.

Anakin had such enormous potential, being a child of the force!
He was not to be underestimated, only ROTJ screwed him up a bit, Luke being able to defeat him without all those years of training.
But Anakin WAS supposed to be the greatest warrior ever in ANH who destroyed the jedi.

No, that is not correct. Where are you getting this from?

He was the second greatest in ANH. After destroying Obi Wan he could not be challenged or rivaled. He was second to the Emperor alone. Of course those two were pretty much the only force users that could still move a bit.

Mhuhahaha! According to my personal opinion Vader was mucho grande more powerfull than Obi Wan!! MFUHAHAHA!! Just when you thought you could have normal conversation with overlord his other personality takes over!!!! HAHAHA!!!
Hey!! I just thought of something!! If Obi was better than Vader why didn't he just defeat him! Because he couldn't HA!

Actually, in ANH Obi-Wan didn't kill a soul. This includes Vader. Why? Because he still had hope for redemption. And he was right.

What are you talking about??

What do you think? The philosophical messages in the series. It's not just hack and slash you know.

No, Janus, I don't think he does.