ROTS Obi-Wan vs. Cin Drallig

Started by Deus Ex4 pages
Originally posted by Lord Simus
Maybe thats just me then but from what I have seen he obviously isn't a fanboy but his love for Obi seems to get the better of him.

What is this?

Name me any one or two instances where I have allowed my "love for Obi-Wan" to get the better of me on this forum.

Okay. Simus, Janus has admitted a bias towards Dooku and Obi-Wan, if anyone. But that has never impeded him in putting up nearly perfect arguments every time he posts.

And Avis, Nai has put through conclusions that have revolutionized the thoughts of many characters, Naga Sadow and Ulic Qel-Droma included. Even the Yoda argument had some merit, as absurd as it sounds.

And this fight, although I completely disagree with the logic presented, goes to Kenobi, although it'd be a duel to see.

In many threads with him against Maul but you probably don't realize it, I didn't mean to offend you.

yea Nai is awsome just biased with yoda who does pwn but not to the extent that he can beat Ragnos

Originally posted by Darth Avis
he beat simus who is very powerful. and he used a sword. and Nai said get in close.

Avis, no offense, but you're a far cry from attempting to disprove Nai Fohl. Now, I have to get up a 5:30, and I ant my seven hours of sleep. So Janus, good luck with this bunch. I'll drop in at three tomorrow. I'll be out for the evening; Braves vs. Mets tomorrow.

i know i cant come close to Nai but i also know that no matter what happens Ragnos cann beat yoda

And now your contradicting yourself.

huh

You just said Ragnos can't beat Yoda!

It's called a typo. It gets the best of us.

ohh yea will edit

Originally posted by Lord Simus
Glentract how can you say that when we don't even know the conditions of that fight.

Seeing that both the movie and the book say Anakin easily killed Cin, Obi-wan could take him. The power he showed in the game is outweighed here.

First off the book isn't canon and that hologram was really small and like 5 seconds long.

More like two to three seconds. And the book is considered canon, but the problems with it contradicting the movie make it as unreliable a source as the Episode III game. In any case, we have not seen anything to indicate that Skywalker can kill Cin Drallig on his own. And considering that in LOE, Cin Drallig is listed as one of the most skilled jedi duellists, strong enough to destroy Grievious, we can assume that he would put up a titanic fight.

What official source said the book is uncanon? I know I quote from it a lot, but it is where we get a lot of our main idea's from around here. Guess where the idea that Dooku threw the fight came from? The book. There are others, but I am tryping in between doing a HUGE school project, so I can't get those right now. Reguardless of how long the clip is, it stands. It's canon at the highest level.

Hm. I didn't recognize you, Genises. Did you want another sig? I didn't know you had changed screen names.

Originally posted by Deus Ex
More like two to three seconds. And the book is considered canon, but the problems with it contradicting the movie make it as unreliable a source as the Episode III game. In any case, we have not seen anything to indicate that Skywalker can kill Cin Drallig on his own. And considering that in LOE, Cin Drallig is listed as one of the most skilled jedi duellists, strong enough to destroy Grievious, we can assume that he would put up a titanic fight.

No one misuderstand me, I think Cin is strong. Top ten probably, but against THE Soresu master of that time, and third strongest in the Order? Cin is going down hard after a good fight.

Wow I thought people realized it was me. Not right now though I'm fine with this one for now.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
What official source said the book is uncanon? I know I quote from it a lot, but it is where we get a lot of our main idea's from around here. Guess where the idea that Dooku threw the fight came from? The book. There are others, but I am tryping in between doing a HUGE school project, so I can't get those right now. Reguardless of how long the clip is, it stands. It's canon at the highest level.

No, it's not canon at its highest level.

The top is movies and radio plays. Novelisations are not included.

It's considered EU, and that means it's quasi-canon; if it doesn't contradict the movie, it stands. But the ROTS book -does- contradict the movie. Many times. To be fair, it does mirror the script for the movie quite a bit, but I would consider the script over the book ANY time, especially since the novelisation is merely an author's interpretation of the script and/or movie.

So for the purpose of these threads, I don't consider the ROTS book a viable source. It's still quasi-canon, and is still EU, but it's so buggy and misquoted and oftentimes outright bias for Anakin and Sidious I don't like to even consider using it.

Like canon-uncanon matters in here. It's a subsection of the EU forum. 😉

*steps out*