Silver Surfer vs. Black Adam

Originally posted by Ambient
So you concede then? Proof of planetary blast of Yz is all is needed to make your point valid, this other nonsense is irrelevant and no bearing on our debate.

It’s like me posting this scan of Surfer absorbing energies that would destroy both DC and Marvel Universe, technically that would make his durability withstanding no lesser than 2 universal level blast attack since he can absorbs energy blast, which then would give him access to his Unilord lvl Right? But what would be the point in that? Beside ticking you off, in that he could potentially become that powerful 🙄

Again put up proof or concede to this argument.

Almost but not down by power approaching Celestial lvl, the same power that brought down Galactus. He took several blows and blast from from this guys, got up and found a way to defeat them ??? How is that not a good showing of his durability ??? Quit downplaying the feat … it’s poor taste for a counter argument 🙁

Murrungo Mu - he just stood there took all they’re combined attack, unfazed and by the way one of the panel in there is Wolverine claws meets his face, even Thanos with the infinity gauntlet feel and was taken back with a similar attack.

Reptile multi teleports before his whole body even shows up.

Surfer reacts before in between that time.

Here’s another NanoSecond feat.

Better yet he stops time because of his speed.

His got insta to time stopping speed .

Almost celestial level? What are you talking about? Those were elder gods weaker than Galactus and they still almost killed him in less than five attacks. Am I supposed to be impressed by that?

Mrrungu had the power of the slaves powering him up. Only you're retarded enough to think that's the same thing as without any power from the slaves when Surfer beat him. Mrrungu with the power of slaves>>Mrrungu with only his own power, what's so hard for you to understand?

Adam can run at almost the speed of light Roldz.

Surfer can only fly at almost the speed of light.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oezltOzjFBk/VoTd-vh0I0I/AAAAAAAAVI8/fuhhezIjiwE/s1600-Ic42/RCO018.jpg

There's no comparison in speed. Adam would destroy him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You mean if he gets Kyle Rayner to give him that power? Sure, even Hal Jordan as human can withstand the full power of Oan battery, its not harmful to the wearer.

Almost celestial level? What are you talking about? Those were elder gods weaker than Galactus and they still almost killed him in less than five attacks. Am I supposed to be impressed by that?

Mrrungu had the power of the slaves powering him up. Only you're retarded enough to think that's the same thing as without any power from the slaves when Surfer beat him. Mrrungu with the power of slaves>>Mrrungu with only his own power, what's so hard for you to understand?

Adam can run at almost the speed of light Roldz.

Surfer can only fly at almost the speed of light.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oezltOzjFBk/VoTd-vh0I0I/AAAAAAAAVI8/fuhhezIjiwE/s1600-Ic42/RCO018.jpg

There's no comparison in speed. Adam would destroy him.

They both took out Galactus dude! Surfer took similar attack and survive 🙄 . Hell yahh! You should be impressed .

Your going full retard Abhi. Statement of facts evident on panel precede over your inability to comprehend what is written. Opinion needs to be base on panel not on ignored facts 🙁

Surfer can stop time with pure speed alone.

BA has no counter to that, he gets blasted to oblivion 10 out of 10

Originally posted by Ambient
I’ve backed every stance I posted with scans of evidence to prove my point Phil. You can’t lie when that’s in your screen, I think his just getting to emotionally involved.

All of the following is imo, of course -- but if right now, instead of the typical quote/unquote fragmentation would be an focused discussion for each point, with "mod verdict" - about Mrrungo, about Morg pre/post death, even the more amusing parts like "5th dimensional being burning Spectre's eyes shows that he has bad durability, so Black Adam sucks", or various other tidbits here I think you'd be surprised how much your arguments don't hold (hell, h1 is also accidentally right about the teleportation feat, but he doesn't read the comics, so he'll never be able to actually prove his point). So imagine h1 actually read the comics, pulled out the relevant scans, elaborated on what they mean, and you'd be left there being proven wrong by h1. Proven wrong by h1 is a sentence that shouldn't be uttered on this forum ever.

It's why I'm asking if you're just trolling abhi.

Your initial discussion was about how impotent Surfer's blasts are generally against opponents, no? That could have been an interesting discussion, the 2 feats you posted of Morg/Champion and the Ronan/Lunatik and a few of the others by Abhi were good starters, but then, somehow....it is now "Surfer 10/10" and "Black Adam can't physically hurt him because he's too durable".

I take it you also actually believe both of these sentences, no?

Originally posted by Philosophía
I don't think you or him being more emotionally involved than the other should be the endpoint -- though I do understand since nobody convinces anybody of anything on vs threads, getting the other angrier than you are could suffice. Posting scans and being right or proving your point are not synonymous -- after all, you're both posting scans.

All of the following is imo, of course -- but if right now, instead of the typical quote/unquote fragmentation would be an focused discussion for each point, with "mod verdict" - about Mrrungo, about Morg pre/post death, even the more amusing parts like "5th dimensional being burning Spectre's eyes shows that he has bad durability, so Black Adam sucks", or various other tidbits here I think you'd be surprised how much your arguments don't hold (hell, h1 is also accidentally right about the teleportation feat, but he doesn't read the comics, so he'll never be able to actually prove his point). So imagine h1 actually read the comics, pulled out the relevant scans, elaborated on what they mean, and you'd be left there being proven wrong by h1. Proven wrong by h1 is a sentence that shouldn't be uttered on this forum ever.

It's why I'm asking if you're just trolling abhi.

Your initial discussion was about how impotent Surfer's blasts are generally against opponents, no? That could have been an interesting discussion, the 2 feats you posted of Morg/Champion and the Ronan/Lunatik and a few of the others by Abhi were good starters, but then, somehow....it is now "Surfer 10/10" and "Black Adam can't physically hurt him because he's too durable".

I take it you also actually believe both of these sentences, no?

Believe it or not all I’m doing is just trying to prove my point, if he does not see it my way, well there is nothing you can do about it, he is definitely entitled to his opinion. Same goes my way, His certainly proven me wrong a few times - its just to past some vac time and have a little bit of fun, weather not permitting at my side of the globe right now for some MTB’ing.

If abhi wants he can certainly can call on some mod ruling, heck if you want you can join in on the fun. Its a comic discussion forum, that’s all man - trolling or not or whatever, makes no difference . Enjoy I am and I think Abhi is too 🤘

🤘

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But they clearly state he's vastly more powerful than Darkseid/Empty Hand ...

👆 for DC leaving two interesting characters away from this crap but 👇 for even teasing them in the first place.

Black Adam staggering Pariah with a single bolt is as much a feat as Thor staggering Chaos King. Neither feat elevates those characters beyond their usual station.

Surfer fighting an actual Abstract solo for 16 straight minutes should've. But nobody cares unless that becomes his norm.

Unless you're trying to flagrantly sell one position and blatantly disregard your hypocrisy.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Reading any abhi discussion is really hard because I can't tell if the opponent is lying to get a rise out of him, or they're just lying.

forget abhi, astner bend over backward supporting marvel is some sublime trolling. i thought he doesn't care for comics

Originally posted by Ambient
So you concede then? Proof of planetary blast of Yz is all is needed to make your point valid, this other nonsense is irrelevant and no bearing on our debate.

It’s like me posting this scan of Surfer absorbing energies that would destroy both DC and Marvel Universe, technically that would make his durability withstanding no lesser than 2 universal level blast attack since he can absorbs energy blast, which then would give him access to his Unilord lvl Right? But what would be the point in that? Beside ticking you off, in that he could potentially become that powerful 🙄

Again put up proof or concede to this argument.

Almost but not down by power approaching Celestial lvl, the same power that brought down Galactus. He took several blows and blast from from this guys, got up and found a way to defeat them ??? How is that not a good showing of his durability ??? Quit downplaying the feat … it’s poor taste for a counter argument 🙁

Murrungo Mu - he just stood there took all they’re combined attack, unfazed and by the way one of the panel in there is Wolverine claws meets his face, even Thanos with the infinity gauntlet feel and was taken back with a similar attack.

Reptile multi teleports before his whole body even shows up.

Surfer reacts before in between that time.

Here’s another NanoSecond feat.

Better yet he stops time because of his speed.

His got insta to time stopping speed .

Hurting Galactus doesn't mean anything because high heralds have done that.
This is your flawed ABC reasoning
1. They hurt Galactus
2. They hurt Surfer
C. Therefore Surfer is very tough

That's stupid.
High heralds and Skyfathers have hurt Galactus.

Yoi ignored my post. I was talking about that exact scene. In some fiction, it has taken seconds for one to teleport. It's not necessarily instant. The scan also reads that Surfer is following the MOVEMENT of the energy. How fast was the movement? Comic doesn't say.

The other scan is hyperbole language. The last scan isn't conclusive to anything quantifiable.

Good job showing Muronngi resistant to fodder.

Originally posted by Ambient
Big to differ! That energy Surfer absorb and contain is too much for Kyle. Try again!

They both took out Galactus dude! Surfer took similar attack and survive 🙄 . Hell yahh! You should be impressed .

Your going full retard Abhi. Statement of facts evident on panel precede over your inability to comprehend what is written. Opinion needs to be base on panel not on ignored facts 🙁

Surfer can stop time with pure speed alone.

BA has no counter to that, he gets blasted to oblivion 10 out of 10

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wWXlVip3kIQ/Vm6kgsje8XI/AAAAAAAAGfQ/DyCQlzk0dzo/s1600-Ic42/RCO020.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FRUryfTug4s/Vm6kgu2DMFI/AAAAAAAAGfQ/LllwBRiVq7Q/s1600-Ic42/RCO021.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xYVe40iuH0k/Vm6khJktfCI/AAAAAAAAGfg/D46sWZfNazU/s1600-Ic42/RCO022.jpg

Taking out Galactus, meh. Everyone and their grandma have done it.

Adam has feats of actual superspeed, not silver age Hyperbole.

Originally posted by ODG
The legendary Multiversal Darkseid is a massive disappointment. More than that, DC is conspicuously trying to erase Empty Hand's and Upside Down Man's involvement in Dark Crisis. Neither of those characters have even actually showed up to any fights throughout the issues of Dark Crisis proper. Heck, they haven't been seen in a single panel since Dark Crisis #1 and don't even feature in any of the subsequent full page spread group-shots of Pariah's army from then onwards.

👆 for DC leaving two interesting characters away from this crap but 👇 for even teasing them in the first place.

Black Adam staggering Pariah with a single bolt is as much a feat as Thor staggering Chaos King. Neither feat elevates those characters beyond their usual station.

Surfer fighting an actual Abstract solo for 16 straight minutes should've. But nobody cares unless that becomes his norm.

Unless you're trying to flagrantly sell one position and blatantly disregard your hypocrisy.

Originally posted by h1a8
Hurting Galactus doesn't mean anything because high heralds have done that.
This is your flawed ABC reasoning
1. They hurt Galactus
2. They hurt Surfer
C. Therefore Surfer is very tough

That's stupid.
High heralds and Skyfathers have hurt Galactus.

Yoi ignored my post. I was talking about that exact scene. In some fiction, it has taken seconds for one to teleport. It's not necessarily instant. The scan also reads that Surfer is following the MOVEMENT of the energy. How fast was the movement? Comic doesn't say.

The other scan is hyperbole language. The last scan isn't conclusive to anything quantifiable.

Good job showing Muronngi resistant to fodder.

The teleport in reference is the one being discussed and not some other fictional event, the first scan posted hitting the porter and damaging the tech was prior to him tracking the movement, he actually manage to instantly counter react at mid-port after he was hit by the the energy beam. It is instant teleportation because it shows the teleportation movement, from A to B of the feat existing in one single panel - that’s how you can measure time in that instant.

Reading comprehension taken effect again Abhi? It’s quite clear his speed at that instant made it so that time around them stood still, depicts by the narration and back by what is drawn, like it or not it’s arguably quantifiable.

We’re talking about durability here Ahby! All those combined attack he took it on full force with out bracing, didn’t even move or flinch even when Wolverine put the claws in his face - trans tier durability.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because he was inexperienced. He contained the entire power of Oa later on.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wWXlVip3kIQ/Vm6kgsje8XI/AAAAAAAAGfQ/DyCQlzk0dzo/s1600-Ic42/RCO020.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FRUryfTug4s/Vm6kgu2DMFI/AAAAAAAAGfQ/LllwBRiVq7Q/s1600-Ic42/RCO021.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xYVe40iuH0k/Vm6khJktfCI/AAAAAAAAGfg/D46sWZfNazU/s1600-Ic42/RCO022.jpg

Taking out Galactus, meh. Everyone and their grandma have done it.

Name them everyone that KO’ed good old G.

Originally posted by Ambient
Hurt! They freakin took him out! KO’ed
Please tell me any high herald/ sky father level has manage to do that. Your low balling strat counter argumentation not withstanding Abhi, like it or not! No one has done that! That is a wicked showing of durability something that BA has no answer too - try again man!

The teleport in reference is the one being discussed and not some other fictional event, the first scan posted hitting the porter and damaging the tech was prior to him tracking the movement, he actually manage to instantly counter react at mid-port after he was hit by the the energy beam. It is instant teleportation because it shows the teleportation movement, from A to B of the feat existing in one single panel - that’s how you can measure time in that instant.

Reading comprehension taken effect again Abhi? It’s quite clear his speed at that instant made it so that time around them stood still, depicts by the narration and back by what is drawn, like it or not it’s arguably quantifiable.

We’re talking about durability here Ahby! All those combined attack he took it on full force with out bracing, didn’t even move or flinch even when Wolverine put the claws in his face - trans tier durability.

Nice! After that he became ION right 😉 , you know there was never any mention of Surfer getting rid of the energy in that Unholy Alliance crossover arc .

Name them everyone that KO’ed good old G.

How about disintegrated?

Originally posted by abhilegend
In infinity wars, a solar system destroying attack vaporized even Galactus, Surfer and Strange and turned them into protoplasm.

Is there a BA feat going around with star system destroying blast.
I fail to see the relevance of the scan Abhi.

Originally posted by Ambient
Is there a BA feat going around with star system destroying blast.
I fail to see the relevance of the scan Abhi.

Confirmed by the writer too.

You're severely outdated in your information regarding comics. Surfer's not even at the bottom of the DC top tier now.

But as you wanted star system destroying attacks, do you acknowledge Orion vaporizes Surfer in a fight?

Seems like Black Adam's feats never include... him mmm

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Seems like Black Adam's feats never include... him mmm

Never said anywhere remotely close to what your saying there Abhi 🙁

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Seems like Black Adam's feats never include... him mmm

YouTube video

GLs are weak against bricks, though, this is known.

Originally posted by Smurph
A brick is basically just a rectangular rock

Originally posted by Ambient
Never said anywhere remotely close to what your saying there Abhi 🙁