Cyclops and Dare Devil Vs Batman and Wolverine

Originally posted by wolverine8888
HE HAS NEVER ONcE BEATEN WOLVERINE EVER. dont make false claim with out proof. it took almost the whole super hero comity to take out wolverine and u think cykes stands a chance verse him. when he was death scot hit him with a leathal blow that abrly fazed wolverine scot waisten holding back he said so him self. even if scot took of his visor sure hill hurt wolverine but wolverine be abck on his feet no time mena while scot barly be able to stand because ever time he does that he can barly stand after wards making him even easier to kill. aslo dd can not dected wolverines heart beats b ecause of his healing factor dd has said he can not detct wolverine like he can others. if this take place in city or woods this fight be over in seconds. on open plain cyclopes still stands no chance of beating wolverine and actuly wolverine always uses his fighting skill he just hold back from killing u must not read wolverine much. wolverine does not normaly dodge bullet because he has no need to. he is one of the only people able to keep up with spiderman and has stabbed spiderman befor. even if u give every advantage of terrain to cyclopes he loses he screwed no matter watch. when ever cyclopes and havok fight it always a hgue battle and scot wins but braly when ever wolverine has foughten havok he taken him out in seconds. can cyclopes take hulk nope he cant he lose for sure. can cyclopes take cable nope he cant and the funny thign is cable a more powerful version of his dad and wolverine has beat cable befor

???

When did it take the whole superhero community to stop wolverine?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Call me crazy...or just well-read...but it sure seems like Wolverine is practically begging for someone to step in and save his sorry butt from the SEVERE BEATING he's about to receive.

Could just be me though.

I'm sleeping good tonight, thats the fifth whooping he's gotten from him.

Yea, I just love the way Wolverine was practically begging the others to step in and save him.

Priceless.

Where's Wolverine8888? I'm sure he'd love to see those.

where do you think?

Wolverine fan**** are amazing.

(gotta keep the bad part out)

For the record, wolverine isn't death anymore.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Cyke has tagged him, many, many times.

Thats the funny part, it hurt him like crazy, and he'll zap him again and again.

In fact, cyke hit the moon with an optic blast.

dude yes, ill admit it...cyke would take down wolverine i cant deny that...but not batman...u cant see batman, thats what hes all about the element of darkness and the night, thus being the dark knight. he has the power of fear and to grow in peoples minds batman would be throwin batarangs breakin shyt, scarin wittle scotty half to death cuz he doesnt have h2h skills does he? and then finally drop some smoke grenades, n throw a mini mine for distraction then just swoop down on his ass n knock em unconcious or w/e he pleases...wolverine cant do that, he has no stealth tactics, thus cykes would sense him somewhere n blast him..batmans different though so thats y im saying if the matchups were batman vs cyclops and wolverine and DD, team batman would win...cuz what the hell is DD gunna do to wolverine?? he can sense him....so what? whats he gunna do next?? wolverine would rip him to shreds in a heartbeat..but yes ive heard DD took him down in the comics, and ive never read a comic in my life, im not a big comic fan ill admit it....but plus, IMO on comics is that theyre not realistic....i mean batman beat superman 😱 how likely is that?? so in reality, using logic, laying the facts down, thats how wolverine and batman would win

DD can sense batman, to get to your post.

😄

Originally posted by braz
dude yes, ill admit it...cyke would take down wolverine i cant deny that...but not batman...u cant see batman, thats what hes all about the element of darkness and the night, thus being the dark knight. he has the power of fear and to grow in peoples minds batman would be throwin batarangs breakin shyt, scarin wittle scotty half to death cuz he doesnt have h2h skills does he? and then finally drop some smoke grenades, n throw a mini mine for distraction then just swoop down on his ass n knock em unconcious or w/e he pleases...wolverine cant do that, he has no stealth tactics, thus cykes would sense him somewhere n blast him..batmans different though so thats y im saying if the matchups were batman vs cyclops and wolverine and DD, team batman would win...cuz what the hell is DD gunna do to wolverine?? he can sense him....so what? whats he gunna do next?? wolverine would rip him to shreds in a heartbeat..but yes ive heard DD took him down in the comics, and ive never read a comic in my life, im not a big comic fan ill admit it....but plus, IMO on comics is that theyre not realistic....i mean batman beat superman 😱 how likely is that?? so in reality, using logic, laying the facts down, thats how wolverine and batman would win

When I say this, I really don't mean to be mean. So I apologize ahead of time.

But why are you debating on here if you've never read a comic? Honestly, it makes your statements completely futile. No offense, really. But when you haven't read a comic before, you really don't know anything about these characters.

About the stealth thing. I don't recall the post originator say anything about stealth being involved. I think we can assume that this is just a random match. Cyke and DD are walking down the street and see Wolverine and Batman together. The two groups decide to fight the other. Batman would have absolutely no time for any sort of stealth. He'll be too busy being blasted to death.

And DD can totally handle Wolverine. Even more so, he can just keep him busy and evade him. Then Cyke comes in and pops Wolverine a few more times, knocking him out.

There. That's logical.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Okay, I did forget that it can reflect actually. He's done it on Colossus. Reflected it right off of his head.

But, you must understand, Cresh. The force of the blow would break the mirror and hit Batman. If Batman were say...at Colossus's strength level, holding a VERY durable mirror or reflective device, then yes. It would then reflect.

Do you see what I mean? I'm not really at your throat, heh.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
When I say this, I really don't mean to be mean. So I apologize ahead of time.

But why are you debating on here if you've never read a comic? Honestly, it makes your statements completely futile. No offense, really. But when you haven't read a comic before, you really don't know anything about these characters.

About the stealth thing. I don't recall the post originator say anything about stealth being involved. I think we can assume that this is just a random match. Cyke and DD are walking down the street and see Wolverine and Batman together. The two groups decide to fight the other. Batman would have absolutely no time for any sort of stealth. He'll be too busy being blasted to death.

And DD can totally handle Wolverine. Even more so, he can just keep him busy and evade him. Then Cyke comes in and pops Wolverine a few more times, knocking him out.

There. That's logical.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Oh lord. Batman is NOT dodging Cyclops's optic blast. He's a freakin surgeon with his blasts (I know this has been said already, but it needs to be stressed). He doesn't miss (unless a plot device). I think I'm about to post some scans of Cyke schooling Wolvie.

While I'm at it, where's that funny amatuer comic of Cyclops messing Wolverine up?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I wouldn't go that far, my friend.

But I'll let the scans speak for themselves.

i dunno if I would use ultimate as evidence for your proof.....especially considering that wolverine nearly killed cyk in the ultimate U... 😕

Originally posted by jinzin
i dunno if I would use ultimate as evidence for your proof.....especially considering that wolverine nearly killed cyk in the ultimate U... 😕

Can I ask you a serious question, Jin?

Really, I'm being sincere.

Why is it such blasphemy to use evidence from the Ultimate Universe? Really, I just don't understand it. It's just another series, really. I mean, there is plenty of evidence for certain things in the UU. It just doesn't seem fair that it's just ruled out immediately.

I know that Wolverine almost killed Cyke. I have the entire Ultimate X-men collection. I can tell you everything. But Wolverine also did provoke that scuffle, which wasn't going to turn into a death match until Cyke blasted him through wall.

That and Wolverine totally caught him off guard with a ball-kick when Cyke wasn't looking. Pretty unfair move if you ask me.

And you may also be referring to when Wolverine let Cyke fall down the cliff. Though I don't know why. If anything, the fall almost killed him, not Wolverine.

Anyway, when the two actually squared off against each other, both ready to fight this time, Cyke spanked him like a redheaded stepchild.

And that's what this fight would be.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Can I ask you a serious question, Jin?

Really, I'm being sincere.

Why is it such blasphemy to use evidence from the Ultimate Universe? Really, I just don't understand it. It's just another series, really. I mean, there is plenty of evidence for certain things in the UU. It just doesn't seem fair that it's just ruled out immediately.

I know that Wolverine almost killed Cyke. I have the entire Ultimate X-men collection. I can tell you everything. But Wolverine also did provoke that scuffle, which wasn't going to turn into a death match until Cyke blasted him through wall.

That and Wolverine totally caught him off guard with a ball-kick when Cyke wasn't looking. Pretty unfair move if you ask me.

And you may also be referring to when Wolverine let Cyke fall down the cliff. Though I don't know why. If anything, the fall almost killed him, not Wolverine.

Anyway, when the two actually squared off against each other, both ready to fight this time, Cyke spanked him like a redheaded stepchild.

And that's what this fight would be.

let me in turn ask you.... shall I begin to use what ifs to endorse my arguments? 🤨

Originally posted by jinzin
let me in turn ask you.... shall I begin to use what ifs to endorse my arguments? 🤨

That's just it though. They're "What Ifs" for a reason. What if.

This is a different universe based on pretty much all the same principles as the 616 universe, just with a twist.

I mean, if this is true, how come people can use evidence from mini-series? Like "Wolverine" for example? That shouldn't be canon with the main universe. Just his own side quests.

Yet I see people use evidence from that all the time.

I am under the assumption that you believe Cyke's optic blasts to be that much more powerful in Ultimate just because it's Ultimate? That's not very fair nor logical.

If I had shown a picture of Wolvie messing Cyke up from Ultimate, I am 100% positive you would've said nothing about the universe, rather how much you agree with the picture.

because ultimate is established as being seperate from 616.

Wolverine's comics are not. . this of course would raise the question of WHICH series is 616 and which is not then eh?

Events that happen in 616, such as the de-adamantium-izing of wolverine, carries over into Wolverine's comics. . .

Originally posted by Creshosk
because ultimate is established as being seperate from 616.

Wolverine's comics are not. . this of course would raise the question of WHICH series is 616 and which is not then eh?

Events that happen in 616, such as the de-adamantium-izing of wolverine, carries over into Wolverine's comics. . .

Seriously though. I'm not bringing up the strength differences between Ulitmate and 616 Hulk. Because yes, that is quite different.

I'm just mostly right talking about the strength Cyke's optic blasts. Do you believe them to be stronger in Ultimate? Or Wolverine to be weaker? Because if anything, UU Wolverine has definitely been shown to be quite strong and having even more absurdly speedy healing than in 616. Doubt me if I you want, but I have the evidence.

I'm just curious. Little things like this shouldn't make a difference whether or not it's 616.

It also seems that whenever I or someone else try to refute a point with the UU, that it's just thrown out because it's the UU. But as long as it supports the opponents' views, it's alright.

Originally posted by jinzin
i dunno if I would use ultimate as evidence for your proof.....especially considering that wolverine nearly killed cyk in the ultimate U... 😕

He isn't winning.

And wolverine didn't almost kill cyke, considering that cyke flinched, he could've blasted him again, talk about a plot device here.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Seriously though. I'm not bringing up the strength differences between Ulitmate and 616 Hulk. Because yes, that is quite different.

I'm just mostly right talking about the strength Cyke's optic blasts. Do you believe them to be stronger in Ultimate? Or Wolverine to be weaker? Because if anything, UU Wolverine has definitely been shown to be quite strong and having even more absurdly speedy healing than in 616. Doubt me if I you want, but I have the evidence.

I'm just curious. Little things like this shouldn't make a difference whether or not it's 616.

It also seems that whenever I or someone else try to refute a point with the UU, that it's just thrown out because it's the UU. But as long as it supports the opponents' views, it's alright.

I swear.

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Originally posted by TOAA
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