Originally posted by TwisterGameX
I agree with you all through this thread, but when i use stuff, i get insulted, by xxx amount of people.It's ok for xxx to do it but not me 🙂
Do you see me bashing people for using pictures and past feats? No.
If anything, you've been doing the most bashing lately.
I believe you are referring to others, my friend. You have not and won't see that from me.
Originally posted by MetalmanxNot at all. . .
It's from Ultimate X-men Volume #1.Wolverine is snapping Cyclops neck, killing him.
Though it's probably helpful to know that it was all a training simulation taking place in Logan's mind.
I bet you support it pretty strongly though.
It's not 616.
It wasn't the real cyclops.
And I'm still suspecting sucker punch.
Training simulations don't see to stand up to what the real thing can do in the first place.
Wolverine also did training sims against magneto, but that's not the real magneto, and it involved a sort of sucker punch with wolverine having prep and Magneto not.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Not at all. . .It's not 616.
It wasn't the real cyclops.
And I'm still suspecting sucker punch.
Training simulations don't see to stand up to what the real thing can do in the first place.
Wolverine also did training sims against magneto, but that's not the real magneto, and it involved a sort of sucker punch with wolverine having prep and Magneto not.
Could you possibly educate me in the way of what X-titles are 616? I'd really like to know.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
That's just it though. They're "What Ifs" for a reason. What if.This is a different universe based on pretty much all the same principles as the 616 universe, just with a twist.
I mean, if this is true, how come people can use evidence from mini-series? Like "Wolverine" for example? That shouldn't be canon with the main universe. Just his own side quests.
Yet I see people use evidence from that all the time.
I am under the assumption that you believe Cyke's optic blasts to be that much more powerful in Ultimate just because it's Ultimate? That's not very fair nor logical.
If I had shown a picture of Wolvie messing Cyke up from Ultimate, I am 100% positive you would've said nothing about the universe, rather how much you agree with the picture.
not true... people have tried to use logan's feats from the ultimate uni as evidence in mainstream debates.. and I've put them straight... this isn't ULTIMATE...those are different characters, then I ask..can I use manga wolverine since that's a different uni? how about AOA? and some of the what if's ARE different universes..
Originally posted by Metalmanx
God. See, this is what pisses me off. Just because Cyke school Wolvie in Ultimate, it's wrong. Plain and simple.Too bad he's done it several other times in 616 as well. But God forbid I use other examples of basically the same thing happening.
when? I know he threw wolverine when wolverine was in a state of depression and on the brink of quiting the superhero biz... I know he blasted him skyhigh and wolverine just got up after landing...and i know wolverine's literally put out his hand and started to casually walk right into cyclops' blast before...where do your examples come from?