Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
they cant move faster then light, thats impossible without some sort of unnatural intervention (i.e. warp drive)anyways, flash couldent hurt supes anyways, so...i dont get how this is a debate. plus supes flying can keep up with flash...
Keep in mind that this is a comic book.
Originally posted by joesha28
With Speed, flash could punch hard and fast. but I believe Supes can and will bring his fight to the air or try frying wally with heat vision (if he's able to make contact). Flash not that durable.
In a comic book, strength has more effect on a punch's forcefulness than speed. Flash won't be hitting as hard as Superman, no matter how fast he goes.
Flash isn't very durable, but he's faster than Superman's heat vision. Given effort, he can make Superman look like he's standing still.
Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5
Superman is as fast or near as fast a Flash. In their first race ever they both tied. Both are capable at moving at speeds well over the speed of light. Flash is really out muscled here. Superman takes him out in one punch.
On the ground, Flash toys with Superman. In terms of running speed, Flash is way faster. Superman could probably keep up with Flash if he flew.
Originally posted by jedi90
you guys are actually serious. if flash is all so powerful how come he didn't defeat doomsday? the flash isn't that much faster than superman. they did have a race in the comics and the flash barely wonand making up lame powers to give the flash an edge is just a poor excuse. 🙄
And also, Superman seems to have some crippling aura, similar to Wolverine, that causes his opponents to not use effective attacks. Like Etrigan slugfesting him instead of using magic. Or Green Lantern trying to hit him with a pool stick instead of using his ring.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
From what I heard, everyone but Superman were either depowered or recently had their ass whomped as to leave Superman as the only one to face Doomsday.And also, Superman seems to have some crippling aura, similar to Wolverine, that causes his opponents to not use effective attacks. Like Etrigan slugfesting him instead of using magic. Or Green Lantern trying to hit him with a pool stick instead of using his ring.
I discovered the aura. Don't steal my research.
Flash throws the multiverse at Supes. Fight over.
Its like this Flash IS Durable...but not invulnerable....supes is...supes can fly faster than flash can run in my book and Ive not seen proof otherwise.....Superman prime c'mon.... flash in his best could not even multiverse prime.......but flash is cool and could beat just about anyone without invulnerablitlity or super speed...but he cannot touch supes....I need proof to believe otherwise
Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
they cant move faster then light, thats impossible without some sort of unnatural intervention (i.e. warp drive)anyways, flash couldent hurt supes anyways, so...i dont get how this is a debate. plus supes flying can keep up with flash...
Supermans speed is the same whether flying or running, the flash is faster than superman that is a fact, superman CANNOT keep up with the flash. He would most definately hurt superman, I dont think he'd win but supes would feel those punches.
Originally posted by roughrider
It may take a day or two of chasing and dodging, but ultimately Superman has to win this.
Only because hes Superman.
Unless there is a solid arena in spaceand Wally has a suit, they arent going to fight there.
Thus, on land Supes is not faster than Flash. Running or flying. This can really go either way. Id tend to lean more towards Flash seeing on how hes my second favorite DC character.
Heat vision wont catch him. Ice breath wont catch nor hold him. Its basically going to have to come down to punches. Flash HAS the ability to make his punches as strong as Superman or even harder.
True Superman is more durable, so Flash would have to nail him with many many punches. Flashisnt as durable, but has a great healing fator. However hed need time to heal a seriuos wound.
Flash could steal all of Supermans speed and render him motionless. then hit him with a few IMP's. That would knock him out with no question. But like i said, If Supes is able to connect with a good hit, Flash could be ko'd.
I guess what im saying is that it all depends on what kind of tactics Flash uses against Superman. Im still leaning more towards Wally though. I say he takes the majority 6.5/10.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
In the physical universe, yes, a light speed punch would be devestating. A grain of salt traveling at lightspeed would be lethal.However, it's quite clear that in comics, physical strength determines the forcefulness of a punch, rather than velocity.
Flash's punches are nowhere near as potent as Superman's.
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As far as i'm concerned, I don't care if gladiator were more powerful indeed than Superman. I don't care if there's 20 million beings more powerful than Superman. What some people fail to understand is that Superman is an idol. He's the guy that's never going to give up fighting for us. He's the adamant soldier that won't back down even if it costs him his life. Spiderman can do the same, but he has nowhere near the responsibility Superman has. Supes fights for a planet that isn't his own, for what they gave to him in the form of a home. And you can always rely on him. Always.
At least that's how i see Superman.
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