Originally posted by Hit and Run
Taken from the Flash Respect Thread; Wally running in space
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Artistic license anyone? Using that logic I could put up scans where Aquaman was "flying" in space IN THAT SAME STORY ARC.
Flash has only "flown" a couple of times and that's by using his arms or feet as whirlwind generators that cause him to float.
He can't run in space anymore than Aquaman was flying in space in that same story.
if you make supes use his full potential, even with the flashes speed his still not gonna win period because there are many ways supes can destroy the flash with ease if he wanted to fight at full potential. did you guys read mark verhedains superman starring superboy when they team up to battle the eradicator, superboy states there that supes can split the earth in half with only a sneeze if he wanted to and don't forget that he can breathe in space something flash is not capable off. if supes has to use the sentence " this ends now" to the flash, the speedster will be finished and it'll be a done deal period
Originally posted by 56857
if you make supes use his full potential, even with the flashes speed his still not gonna win period because there are many ways supes can destroy the flash with ease if he wanted to fight at full potential. did you guys read mark verhedains superman starring superboy when they team up to battle the eradicator, superboy states there that supes can split the earth in half with only a sneeze if he wanted to and don't forget that he can breathe in space something flash is not capable off. if supes has to use the sentence " this ends now" to the flash, the speedster will be finished and it'll be a done deal period
Anyway, here's a scenario:
-The fight starts.
-Before Superman can even THINK of what he's going to do, the Flash runs up to him and steals his speed; Supes is now a living statue, meaning he cannot move AT ALL.
-Now, if Superman is turned into a living statue, how do ANY of his powers (heat vision, super-strength, T-VO, etc) help him out?
Flash may not have as many powers as Superman, but what he has is more than enough to beat just about any body.
Originally posted by Hit and Run
Flash may not have as many powers as Superman, but what he has is more than enough to beat just about any body.
ok some thing to think about
1. supes is from a planet with higher gravity, if you stay on a planet thats gravity is less dense than yours, over time your bones weaken.
2. flash is the fastest HUMAN, even though speed doesnt have much to do with it. if that was the case, supes would just fly like lightning into every foe.
3. it is posible for flash to kill supes, it would be though as hard if not harder than beating him in a race
Originally posted by chris_60262
didnt flash gets his ass handed to him by supergirl not to long ago?
Supergirl basically made a hobby out of kicking every one's asses.
Originally posted by chris_60262
didnt flash gets his ass handed to him by supergirl not to long ago?
Hardly a legitimate feat. Let's put it this way. You'd need to cite an example where EVERYONE wasn't being put in a bad light at the same time. For example, yes, it's true that Wally found himself impaled upon a sword in Identity Crisis, but in that same battle a Green Latern, Atom, Hawkman, Canary, Zatana, etc. ALL found themselves ridiculously incapacitated. By the same token, when Flash- somehow- is unable to breath despite her being able to speak and himself always running at speeds too fast to respirate ANYWAYS... even taking such a ridiculous case as true, in the same story she out-blitzed the autoshields of a Green Latern and, as Accel points out, proceeds to wreck a bunch of characters and teams she has no business easily walking all over.
A legimate showing of Wally's weakness would have to be one taken in isolation, otherwise it's no different from all the times Superman found himself incapacitated along with his fellow Leaguers.
Originally posted by SupezM'The fight should be over long before endurance becomes a factor, but even if that weren't the case, Superman is literally a battery. Batteries run out and even if they can be recharged, that takes time. Someone said it glibly, but it's rather true, Flash could speed steal Superman, throw a black blanket over him, then come back and kill him after all his energy is exhausted.
Probably would come down to an edurance fight, sure Flash might be able to steal Superman's kinetic energy. But energy can be regained especially in Supe's case.Under the yellow sun he is just a battery he can go on forever, Wally will run out of juice eventually.
Flash, on the other hand, is not a battery but a conduit. He mainlines, or channels, the Speed Force... the extra-dimensional, unlimited source of his powers. How else could he move his body at such speeds, hit with the force of white dwarf star, regularly smash the laws of physics in terms of friction, energy, respiration, gravity, etc.?
Bottom line, Clark's "juice" is stored solar, Wally's is an entire never-ceasing dimension... Clark's a bottle, but Wally's on tap.
Ok, your talking about throwing a blanket over him. In case you didnt read ALL of this forum, Superman and Flash raced. Superman BARELY lost. You say Flash can be that fast? Flash my have a super speed punch after going full speed. Well, think about this? Both Superman and Flash hit a punching bag standing still right? Flash rocks it a little. Supe Blows a hole threw it and it flies a mile. Now, take Flash punching with his speed. Ok, he hits a lot harder now. BUT, Superman going almost the same speed just a LITTLE slower, would crush anything in its way. It would be unstopable. Therefor, Flash could not beat Superman. Superman gets one hit at Superspeed and Flash would be out of the picture...Not to mention, Superman could take infinate hits and survive, but Flash could take one devistating blow and be dead...
Flash got his ass beat by Doomsday! And so did the rest of the superhero's who fought with Superman against Doomsday. Superman beat Doomsday and it took all he had. If Flash was so strong why didn't he beat Doomsday? B/c he is weak. It's almost blashpemous to say Flash would beat Superman. He got his butt kicked in the comics anyway...
Originally posted by SuperTrevor Ok, your talking about throwing a blanket over him. In case you didnt read ALL of this forum, Superman and Flash raced.
Leagues beyond Superman's ability... Clark simply can't do that, period.
As for the Infinite Mass Punch, again, read your JLA. It KO's super-bricks with regularity (Mongul, Grodd, Wonder Woman, White Martians, etc). As for speed stealing, he's drained energy from the entire planet, floating alien cities, and 500 foot tidal waves. He can stop Supes dead.
Originally posted by GODOFALL1 Flash got his ass beat by Doomsday! And so did the rest of the superhero's who fought with Superman against Doomsday. Superman beat Doomsday and it took all he had. If Flash was so strong why didn't he beat Doomsday? B/c he is weak. It's almost blashpemous to say Flash would beat Superman. He got his butt kicked in the comics anyway...You're pretty much acknowledged as a dumbass so I shouldn't waste my breath, but:
Flash feats:
http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/view.php?trd=050629045151
Sends someone into orbit with ONE punch:
http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla003064go.jpg
http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla003073nt.jpg
Speed kicks WW's ass (she says it feels worse than getting hit by Superman):
http://img189.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wonderwoman214110ka.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wonderwoman214129xm.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wonderwoman214137tt.jpg
Originally posted by Demas
You're pretty much acknowledged as a dumbass so I shouldn't waste my breath, but:
1. Superman got his ass beat by Doomsday too.
2. No one is comparing them THEN. OVER A DECADE AGO back in 1993. If your head wasn't still stuck up your bum from back then, you'd know that both characters have received considerable power-ups since then, but Flash's more significant for 1-on-1 fighting.
3. Blasphemy implies religion. You want to paint yourself as a blindly faithful zealot without reason, that's your prerogative.
4. Every race between current Wally and current Supes has ended with Wally's decisive victory. When the fate of the world rested on speed in "The Human Race" Flash was selected over Supes. Flash has plenty of tools to take Supes out, but more importantly the speed to execute before Supes can respond.
5. As for taking out the powerful, recently Flash banished Superboy-Prime- a literal planet-mover- for years with barely any effort on his part. Come IC#7, we're likely to see all the hosts of the DCU fight this same threat with a lot more than it took Flash.
Agreed. GODOFALL1 doesn't know what he's talking about.
Flash will win unless Supes flies in the air and burns the whole planet.
