Wow, and Whirly's done it again, completely dodged the point via diversion.
So Whirly what exactly do you think the phoenix is? And what evidence do you have to support these beleifs?
We'll be glad to point out the evidence oyu're intentionally, or unintentionally, ignoring in order to sustain this blind faith. 🙂
Yeah that's presumptious of me to atuomatically assume you're wrong before you say anything, but hey, I learned that trick from you. 😉
Originally posted by Creshosk
Wow, and Whirly's done it again, completely dodged the point via diversion.So Whirly what exactly do you think the phoenix is? And what evidence do you have to support these beleifs?
We'll be glad to point out the evidence oyu're intentionally, or unintentionally, ignoring in order to sustain this blind faith. 🙂
Yeah that's presumptious of me to atuomatically assume you're wrong before you say anything, but hey, I learned that trick from you. 😉
I think the Phoenix is a character that is certainly involved in the Universes life cycle in marvel at present. I do not think that means any avatar is omnipotent. I do not think they are as high up as the abstracts as the abstracts have a constant funtion for the Universe and actually influence all beings including the Phoenix force/ entity - I believe it is both. As for it being part of god, that I don't believe at all, I think it could well be a software progam that provides universal patches, removes viruses etc - but why would god invest his power in another. Thats senseless 🙂
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
I think the Phoenix is a character that is certainly involved in the Universes life cycle in marvel at present. I do not think that means any avatar is omnipotent. I do not think they are as high up as the abstracts as the abstracts have a constant funtion for the Universe and actually influence all beings including the Phoenix force/ entity - I believe it is both. As for it being part of god, that I don't believe at all, I think it could well be a software progam that provides universal patches, removes viruses etc - but why would god invest his power in another. Thats senseless 🙂
But if you'd read Xmen forever you'd know that the abstracts are not a constant function. They are merely the evolved humanity from the universe before. Phoenix is the only constant. All in the comics mate. Ive already been through this. If i post some scans stating that fact will you concede? 😄
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Indeed highly presumptious, its likely Twain said it as its an old quote, however in any book of quotes you will see its anonymous - Seuss is not big in the UK 🙂
Dr. Seuss is quite big in other parts of the world though.
Ahem.....anyway, that's beyond the point. You know what you're doing. If i were to create a comicbook line of my own, entitled "Tales of the sarcophagus" with all kinds of characters, and the Egyptian gods would be skyfather level bla bla bla
And there would be a character called Imhotep who goes by the name of "mummy", and you'd hate that character, no matter what Imhotep's qualities, characteristics and feats are, no matter what handbooks would say, your argument would be:
"But mummies aren't that strong 🙂 "
"But Imhotep was just a guy 🙂"
"But Imhotep was a doctor. Why would he do bad things? 🙂 "
It's just your modus operandi. The really sad sad thing about that is that somehow you get acolytes that in order to make a name for themselves, be it good or bad, take up your views and embrace the lack of logic simply to become one more sad sad kid with a bad reputation on KMC that has orgasms when using the 🙂 smilie.
~wickerman~
God investing his power into others is a common feature in a lot of the worlds religions. Hinduism, Christianity. Jesus was an avatar of God. A direct manifestation of God in our physical plane. He was infallible was he? He could die but of course he could be reborn. He had doubts. Didnt change what he was. Jean is referred to as Tiphereth which is an aspect of God and in a crossover she is shown to be one with the Source which is an aspect of Dc's god.
Originally posted by Wickerman
Dr. Seuss is quite big in other parts of the world though.Ahem.....anyway, that's beyond the point. You know what you're doing. If i were to create a comicbook line of my own, entitled "Tales of the sarcophagus" with all kinds of characters, and the Egyptian gods would be skyfather level bla bla bla
And there would be a character called Imhotep who goes by the name of "mummy", and you'd hate that character, no matter what Imhotep's qualities, characteristics and feats are, no matter what handbooks would say, your argument would be:"But mummies aren't that strong 🙂 "
"But Imhotep was just a guy 🙂"
"But Imhotep was a doctor. Why would he do bad things? 🙂 "
It's just your modus operandi. The really sad sad thing about that is that somehow you get acolytes that in order to make a name for themselves, be it good or bad, take up your views and embrace the lack of logic simply to become one more sad sad kid with a bad reputation on KMC that has orgasms when using the 🙂 smilie.
~wickerman~
you mean other people get orgasms using the smillie.
I have a question for you 🙂
Is the Phoenix entity affected by abstract concepts like desire, need and compassion, fear and even death? 🙂
Keep the faith 🙂
Stay Whirly 🤘
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
you mean other people get orgasms using the smillie.I have a question for you 🙂
Is the Phoenix entity affected by abstract concepts like desire, need and compassion, fear and even death? 🙂
Keep the faith 🙂
Stay Whirly 🤘
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
God investing his power into others is a common feature in a lot of the worlds religions. Hinduism, Christianity. Jesus was an avatar of God. A direct manifestation of God in our physical plane. He was infallible was he? He could die but of course he could be reborn lol. He had doubts. Didnt change what he was. Jean is referred to as Tiphereth which is an aspect of God and in a crossover she is shown to be one with the Source which is an aspect of Dc's god.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
But if you'd read Xmen forever you'd know that the abstracts are not a constant function. They are merely the evolved humanity from the universe before. Phoenix is the only constant. All in the comics mate. Ive already been through this. If i post some scans stating that fact will you concede? 😄
The avatars yes, I agree🙂
The concepts no - they are as constant as the Phoenix force - Galen proves this 🙂
Keep the faith🙂
Stay Whirly 🤘
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
you mean other people get orgasms using the smillie.I have a question for you 🙂
Is the Phoenix entity affected by abstract concepts like desire, need and compassion, fear and even death? 🙂
Keep the faith 🙂
Stay Whirly 🤘
So are you not going to answer my question. I addressed your doubts and asked if i could show you a scan stating that the abstracts are replaced and showing phoenix is the only constant will you concede?
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
you mean other people get orgasms using the smillie.I have a question for you 🙂
Is the Phoenix entity affected by abstract concepts like desire, need and compassion, fear and even death? 🙂
Keep the faith 🙂
Stay Whirly 🤘
If by "phoenix entity" you mean the "phoenix force" then i'd say no. If you mean Jean Grey aka Phoenix, then yes.
~wickerman~
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
The avatars yes, I agree🙂The concepts no - they are as constant as the Phoenix force - Galen proves this 🙂
Keep the faith🙂
Stay Whirly 🤘
Galan doesnt prove that at all. There is a new Galactus just like there are new abstracts every cycle. Phoenix is the only constant. If i show scans stating this will you concede?
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Galan doesnt prove that at all. There is a new Galactus just like there are new abstracts every cycle. Phoenix is the only constant. If i show scans stating this will you concede?
The abstracts are avatars of ideas, which is stronger a force or an idea a force may spring from 🙂