Superman vs Thor (with a twist)

Originally posted by Space M ummy
Sneezing galaxies is great and all, but PC Supes struggled against He-Man. Thor with the belt and gauntlets is waaaay Stronger, with magical projectile attacks that can punk supes from a distance.

Thor can also BFR them both into a red sun for an insta-win, here. PC superman's weaknesses were even worse than current's, imho

He-Man's power is that he is as strong as he needs to be, a fair assessment of Superman's strength too. You make it sound as if Thor can just casually grab Superman and pull him along to a red sun. I love Thor, favorite Marvel character and much like Superman in many ways but his strength isn't a fraction of one percent of the strength of PC Superman. PC Superman was ridiculous, I'm not denying it, but that's what it was.

Originally posted by SupremeMan
He-Man's power is that he is as strong as he needs to be, a fair assessment of Superman's strength too. You make it sound as if Thor can just casually grab Superman and pull him along to a red sun.

Superman wins. All he needs is one punch that is actually a punch which makes him time travel.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I'm sure he was thinking something more practical...like, teleporting?

Thor has to hurl his hammer and have it move around someone to do that. At any rate, it takes a moment. Check out the respect thread. Superman was flying through galaxies (not through a galaxy but through galaxies) in fractions of a second. He was faster than the Flash on reaction speed. Its all in the respect thread. Thor doesn't have a chance. Zero. Zip. No chance period.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Superman wins. All he needs is one punch that is actually a punch which makes him time travel.

Of course. I mean, its not like Mjolnir allows Thor to also time travel.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Of course. I mean, its not like Mjolnir allows Thor to also time travel.

Originally posted by SupremeMan
Thor has to hurl his hammer and have it move around someone to do that. At any rate, it takes a moment. Check out the respect thread. Superman was flying through galaxies (not through a galaxy but through galaxies) in fractions of a second. He was faster than the Flash on reaction speed. Its all in the respect thread. Thor doesn't have a chance. Zero. Zip. No chance period.

I know enough without referring to the respect thread every 5 seconds. And sure, Supes blitzing him from the word 'Go!' would beat Thor. But that's not how Supes operates, especially in the PC era. And it would only take a few hits from Thor to KO or seriously hurt and weaken Supes in return.

IT wouldn't take much from Thor to KO Superman IF he hit him. He ain't hitting him though,

Originally posted by Enyalus
I know enough without referring to the respect thread every 5 seconds. And sure, Supes blitzing him from the word 'Go!' would beat Thor. But that's not how Supes operates, especially in the PC era. And it would only take a few hits from Thor to KO or seriously hurt and weaken Supes in return.

Okay at this point I accept that the feats don't matter to you. For you, Thor wins and that's that because that's what you want the result to be. Superman has displays of durability that there is nothing Thor can do to him.

And you are the one that demanded visual proof that Superman was strong enough to move a galaxy only to turn around and now claim you cannot be bothered with respect threads and evidence, now that said evidence has turned against you. You wanted to go by feats when it was working in your favor. He could take all the hits Thor could throw and it would do squat to him if we go with both their best feats.

Originally posted by SupremeMan
Okay at this point I accept that the feats don't matter to you. For you, Thor wins and that's that because that's what you want the result to be. Superman has displays of durability that there is nothing Thor can do to him.

Originally posted by SupremeMan
And you are the one that demanded visual proof that Superman was strong enough to move a galaxy only to turn around and now claim you cannot be bothered with respect threads and evidence, now that said evidence has turned against you.

Originally posted by Enyalus

I'll repeat it: PC Supes' magical resistance was giltch. Thor's twice as powerful here. That includes Mjolnir, which is magical. Doesn't take a genius to realize that Superman's durability isn't going to play a major role here.

That wasn't me. I've seen what you were talking about before. And have read a few PC Action Comics storylines, so... [/B]

Sorry on that one. I wouldn't have been so strident but I thought that was you. 😮

But Superman's weakness to magic was always selective and it seldom if ever included things like getting hit with blunt objects like a hammer or lightning that, though summoned magically, was still lightning. He once took a "blast of pure magical energy" from Satannus, an arch-devil, that knocked him across the planet and he came right back at Satannus. Clearly if his weakness to magic was all people have hyped it to be, he would have been splattered to the four winds.

His durability is going to be an overwhelming factor here as the hammer does nothing to him in a no PIS fight. As great as Thor's hitting feats are, they don't stand up to PC Superman. And all of this ignores that he had Flash+ reflexes and would never be hit by Thor in a no PIS fight.

Superman most likely loses because while he was far more powerful Pre-Crisis, he was also far more susceptible to magical attacks.

I honestly think that thor will have to get lucky on this one. HE has the power to defeat supes. But this version of supes would in one shot knock him out. It will take only one shot. In this fight thor cannot get hit even a single time. Can he do this? As far as the belt of strength goes this doubles thors strength. So with this belt hes probobly quite a bit stronger then current supes. But even with the belt his strnegth is not on par with pre crisis supes.

Base Classic Thor doesn't even get one-shotted from Odin-level beings. Yet this amped Classic Thor is going to get one-shotted from a punch by PC Supes?

Please.

Originally posted by SupremeMan
Its somewhat annoying to have to spend an hour finding a feat that is simply common knowledge to Superman readers but...

First here is the sneezing feat

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t447673.html

Here's Superboy not even full grown into Superman yet moving the planet with just his super breath

http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pc1dc4.jpg

Superman shrugs off the Hulk's hits

http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pc6sx5.jpg

Superman moves the planet with sheer strength

http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pc12jy7.jpg

Superboy holds a neutron star in his hand and throws it

http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pc2mw9.jpg

Superman shrugs off a bomb powerful enough to destroy the planet

http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superman23614jk0.jpg

And finally the galaxy towing feat

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Precrisis/?action=view&current=Superboytowingplanets.jpg

You can find those and a lot more at

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t447673.html

The Pre-Crisis Kryptonian Respect Thread.

But nowhere did he move a galaxy. That's a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge difference from any of those feats

Originally posted by SupremeMan
Superman shrugs off the Hulk's hits

http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pc6sx5.jpg

but any rate I agree pitting Thor against PRE CRISIS Supe is plane insane. FFS that version of Supe can sneeze out a SOLAR SYSTEM lol

Originally posted by Enyalus

Thor's twice as powerful here. That includes Mjolnir, which is magical. Doesn't take a genius to realize that Superman's durability isn't going to play a major role here.

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Isn't that incorrect? The belt and the gauntlets don't amp magic powers, they amp his strength. His physical strength would be doubled, not his magical abilities - Unless I'm mistaken.

Originally posted by Enyalus

I'll repeat it: PC Supes' magical resistance was giltch. Thor's twice as powerful here. That includes Mjolnir, which is magical. Doesn't take a genius to realize that Superman's durability isn't going to play a major role here.

That wasn't me. I've seen what you were talking about before. And have read a few PC Action Comics storylines, so... [/B]

I completely agree with you here. Supermans durability isnt going to help him here. PROVIDED thor dont take this to a fist fight. Against current supes thor with his belt of strength would woops supes ass even with out his hammer. But PC supes this aint going to happen too. Now if thor fights smart which he dont alwasy do this, he should win a majority.

thor has a horrible track record of looseing to toons he shouldnt due to the fact that he goes to a fist fight right away when he should be using his hammer. Thor under the right conditions provided supes dont speed blitz which he never does should win for a majority.

prob is Supe got superspeed so hows Thor gonna go near him?

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
prob is Supe got [b]superspeed so hows Thor gonna go near him? [/B]