Traya and Windu versus Sidious and Tyranus

huh? do you mean me?

Well, If we base facts from the movies, then From what we know Sidious is the better Sith. READ what i just wrote, better sith, not better force user or duelist. He was a better sith lord than Kreia.

yes because he took over the galaxy. i could do that but that doesnt mean i can win in a fight

Again, just like the other thread I'm on Traya's side, but Sidious is truly the Better Sith. That is all I have to say.

^agreed.

Originally posted by Admiral Akbar
Again, just like the other thread I'm on Traya's side, but Sidious is truly the Better Sith. That is all I have to say.

Kreia wasn't even a Sith.

Traya, however, was. If in name only.

Originally posted by Admiral Akbar
Again, just like the other thread I'm on Traya's side, but Sidious is truly the Better Sith. That is all I have to say.

That's like saying Hitler was the better politician than Washington because he amassed more political power, nevermind the fact that the latter set many precedents and practically stablelized and cemented the foundation for the country people call the USA.

Sidious was a benefactor of circumstance, accept this and move on.

Originally posted by Darth Traya
Kreia wasn't even a Sith.

She was.

Originally posted by Illustrious
That's like saying Hitler was the better politician than Washington because he amassed more political power, nevermind the fact that the latter set many precedents and practically stablelized and cemented the foundation for the country people call the USA.

Sidious was a benefactor of circumstance, accept this and move on.

Thanks for the quote.

*Tucks it in his profile*

Originally posted by Sorgo
She was.

KRIEA wasn't a Sith, TRAYA was. And we all know how GL and the SWU likes to emphasize that going dark makes you a new person.

Which is probably relatable to real life. (i.e. Heidler becomes Hitler, etc.)

I just think they're all racist 😛.

GL or the Sith? lol

Originally posted by Illustrious
KRIEA wasn't a Sith, TRAYA was. And we all know how GL and the SWU likes to emphasize that going dark makes you a new person.

Kreia is Traya. Just as Palpatine was Sidious. She was holding herself undercover, playing the Exile as a pawn in her twisted game.

She was always Traya, so she was always Sith.

So Anakin would be a Sith, since Anakin and Vader are the same physical entity?

Originally posted by Deus Ex
So Anakin would be a Sith, since Anakin and Vader are the same physical entity?

Traya was a Sith while traveling with the Exile. She was not "Kreia", she was always Traya. When the Exile asks if she is Sith, she basically says yes, although i do not remember the quote exactly.

Anakin is Vader and Vader is Anakin. That's....Just.....It.

Or, did Anakins soul leave his body for this brand new soul named "Vader"?

It's SW; anything is possible.

mace and traya hands down.

i could give reasons but people already grave reasons why i think they would win, so that would be redundant.

Traya or Kreia was the most pathetic Sith I have ever seen. She was a Sith in name only. She wasn't a Sith, nor a Jedi.

That is what makes her strong.