Street Tourney Match #3

Originally posted by Dizzle
We can do that? I vote 50 times for Jinzin, and 50 times for Laminator.

So far, I've seen nothing that really gives either one a real leg up over the other. One of you is walking out of this fight bloody and massively wounded, while the other's dead. I'm just not sure which one would pull it off more...

That site Laminator gave did have a sweet quote for Benedict though...
"I fear Benedict." Hahahaha, I love it.

well I got an enhanced healing factr backed up by a symbiotic healing factor so if it comes down to how can take more punishment... i'll go with TBK everytime.... and that's IF he gets hit...

Originally posted by jinzin
well I got an enhanced healing factr backed up by a symbiotic healing factor so if it comes down to how can take more punishment... i'll go with TBK everytime.... and that's IF he gets hit...

I definitely meant that I was undecided, as this is pretty freaking close. But whatever melts your butter, really. My own ignorance might be helping Lam here... Benedict and Vanth both sound like badasses to the extreme, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt in both skill and his ranger-ish abilities. I could be completely wrong here, but I also don't want to vote AGAINST him because I simply don't know the full scope of his powers.

(actually, now that we're here, some feats for durability and strength for Benedict would be nice... I accept his skill level because he's called "weapon master" like 6 times, but I really have no idea how you'd stack against TBK in a brawl)

Originally posted by Dizzle
I definitely meant that I was undecided, as this is pretty freaking close. But whatever melts your butter, really. My own ignorance might be helping Lam here... Benedict and Vanth both sound like badasses to the extreme, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt in both skill and his ranger-ish abilities. I could be completely wrong here, but I also don't want to vote AGAINST him because I simply don't know the full scope of his powers.

(actually, now that we're here, some feats for durability and strength for Benedict would be nice... I accept his skill level because he's called "weapon master" like 6 times, but I really have no idea how you'd stack against TBK in a brawl)

how could he? what's he going to do? shoot me? good luck with that.. stab me? TBK can take dozens of mortal wounds and heal AND keep fighting without missing a beat...up close I have my choice of webbing, symbiotic tendrils.. double speed. or just taking his assault point blank and gutting him for his troubles...

Jinzin wins.
For this battle, he has superior speed, strength, agility, firepower, and killer instinct.
That sword is the only thing he really has to worry about and I doubt that will be a real problem.

Jinzin wins.

well venom win hands down vs night crawler

I'm voting Jinzin for now.

Lam, you need to get on the ball posting feats for Vanth and Benedict. Even I'M like this close to voting for jinzin.

Originally posted by wolverine8888
well venom win hands down vs night crawler

😱 WOLVIE8888 how the hell have you been buddy?!?!

hmm, let's see if i have the scenario painted in my head properly:

lam tries to lure jin into a trap/traps. jin recognizes it, avoids the traps, and . . . what? jumps into a tree somewhere near where he assumes lam's amalgam is?

IF that's right, i think this is where lam is saying jin can't be invisible -- going through all the leaves, landing on a branch, those will give jin's location away BEFORE jin can take him out. now, i don't know what lam's character will do with his knowledge . . .

if i'm misreading the situation, please let me know and clarify it for me. i really don't know how anyone can vote yet - no one's really gotten into a position yet to win. clarifying the scenario then explaining what you plan on doing will help me decide who to vote for.

I'm voting for Jinzin.

TX,
I'm finna check out your post tourney.

ENTER and say what you want.

Hey woah, I go to work an every body starts voting for the other guy. Hang on folks, you'll get the next awesome installment tonight. This is why we have a week here. I don't have the luxury of posting in-depth tactical scenarios and feat lists while at work. Fear not, more Ben Dreadcrawler goodness is coming this evening.

Ok, I just got home and my wife surprises me with tickets to a sneak preview of Corpse Bride. Sorry to keep everyone waiting, true believers. You'll hear from me later tonight. (Yes, I am a grown-up comic book geek with a family and a full time job. please be understanding. I still want to play to win, It'll just be a slower match than some of the others.)

Originally posted by Laminator_X
Ok, I just got home and my wife surprises me with tickets to a sneak preview of Corpse Bride. Sorry to keep everyone waiting, true believers. You'll hear from me later tonight. (Yes, I am a grown-up comic book geek with a family and a full time job. please be understanding. I still want to play to win, It'll just be a slower match than some of the others.)

OK here we go. First off I'd like to salute Jinzin for classily not burying the match with coments while I couldn't respond. Damn Jinzin, you're a real trooper!

Second, JP, I'm hurt man. I stuck up for you when everyone was voting early in your match and this is how you repay me? Just the same, no hard feelings. Perhaps I'll yet change some minds here.

But enough of this. Now I bring it! First, Ben Dreadcrawler's much anticipated response to Big Kahuna's cunning tendril attack. I'll follow this with scan and quote installments so that our esteemed readers can gain appreciation of the force of nature that is this amalgam. On to the ownage!

When we last saw our hero he was up a tree beset on all sides by Kahuna's dagnasty tendrils.

Dreadcrawlerdives to the side towards the tendrils, fanning his Radium Laser in a wide arc before him, just to give BK a taste of the Radiation burn poisoning fun.

He grabs a (now stumpy) tendril and then BANF! teleports them both two miles (3.2km) up and then BANF! ports himself back to the ground, leaving Big Kahuna stunned and in freefall. This is Nightcrawler's upper limit on vertical BAMF's, and it wipes Kurt out to this. Ben will feel the hurt, but his far greater endurance healing factor will have him (and Kahuna, of course) back in fighting shape well before Kahuna gets back anywhere near ground level.

So, Kahuna's 3200 meters up and falling. Critical airspeed for a human body is around 55m/s link, a little over 120MPH. Unless he tries to tendril himeself a parachute or something, he'll take a bit over a minute to fall to earth

In that time, Dreadcrawler is going to manifest his Sword (scans to follow). He'll spend some time emptying his RadLase's powercell blasting his own blade for a big energy powerup., Then he'll reload.

When Kahuna gets within a few hundred meters of ground level, Ben Dreadcrawler throws a Flash Bang grenade up at him. Not too close, just close enough for hand granades and timed just right for no throwback. Benedict's millenia of army life (feat post to follow) allows him to do this perfectly. FLASHBANG! What would normally be a nice set-up for a serious coup de grace will be uber-effective against Kahuna, thanks to Sabertooth's hyper-senses and Venom's weakness to sonic attacks! (This'll still work just fine if he parachute's, I'll just have more time to prepare)

And now for that coup de grace: I will now blast the living bajeezis out of the Big Kahuna with my sword's energy blasts. These blasts shatter boulders without ebsorbing beams for a powerup. They blow holes in spaceship hulls when they're juiced (again scans to follow, I'll stay up late tonight 😈 ). Between free-fall and the stun grenade, BK'll be in no position to dodge. Then just for kicks, I'll hit him again with both the sword blast and the laser. And again. Then he'll hit the ground. Hard (or less hard if he makes the 'chute. OTOH, if he does that, I'll get to shoot him some more 😈 ) !

BK's tough enough to regenerate from this sort of mega assault, but I think I've shredded him enough to get the win. If not, I'll grenade and blast his maimed charred mass until he stops twitching.

Now, excuse me while I fire up the scanner...

Originally posted by leonidas
hmm, let's see if i have the scenario painted in my head properly:

lam tries to lure jin into a trap/traps. jin recognizes it, avoids the traps, and . . . what? jumps into a tree somewhere near where he assumes lam's amalgam is?

IF that's right, i think this is where lam is saying jin can't be invisible -- going through all the leaves, landing on a branch, those will give jin's location away BEFORE jin can take him out. now, i don't know what lam's character will do with his knowledge . . .

if i'm misreading the situation, please let me know and clarify it for me. i really don't know how anyone can vote yet - no one's really gotten into a position yet to win. clarifying the scenario then explaining what you plan on doing will help me decide who to vote for.

nope...I'm just letting my enhanced senses lead me to the general location of where he last teleported... from there my enhanced senses can still deduce where he went afterwards.... so I'm not jumping out of a tree persay... just sending my venom tendrils over to where he's at... the tendrils can travel virtually un-noticed... from there I either tendril him and snap his neck, suffocate him, or yank him outwards.. even if all it does is alert him to my presence and he gets away, I've already driven him out of his sniper spot...... if he goes into hiding again.. we'll just repeat the process...

Originally posted by Laminator_X
OK here we go. First off I'd like to salute Jinzin for classily not burying the match with coments while I couldn't respond. Damn Jinzin, you're a real trooper!

it was tough but thanks... I do try... 😉

Originally posted by Laminator_X
Dreadcrawlerdives to the side [b]towards the tendrils, fanning his Radium Laser in a wide arc before him, just to give BK a taste of the Radiation burn poisoning fun. [/B]

okay I'm not entirely sure what your doing here.. I mean...my tendrils are slithering up multiple tree branches and such to get to you... if you leap to one side and shoot a wide arch you off a few of them (mostly because at this point it's pretty hard to miss a tendril as they are surrounding you.... but the other one's on your flanks and at your rear are still coming to get you... (these tendrils are so ninja that they snaked up blazes leg through his coat onto his hand and around the trigger of his gun without him noticing... so you can understand my surprise at your ability to pick them off before they get to you... 🤨

Originally posted by Laminator_X
He grabs a (now stumpy) tendril and then [b] BANF! teleports them both two miles (3.2km) up and then BANF! ports himself back to the ground, leaving Big Kahuna stunned and in freefall. This is Nightcrawler's upper limit on vertical BAMF's, and it wipes Kurt out to this. Ben will feel the hurt, but his far greater endurance healing factor will have him (and Kahuna, of course) back in fighting shape well before Kahuna gets back anywhere near ground level.
So, Kahuna's 3200 meters up and falling. Critical airspeed for a human body is around 55m/s link, a little over 120MPH. Unless he tries to tendril himeself a parachute or something, he'll take a bit over a minute to fall to earth[/B]

nope.... your theory falls apart right here.... even IF I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and you DO see the tendrils.... and you DO bamf us up there... i need no parachute... it's as simple at this.... spiderman when in similar situations as made batwings with his webbing... guess what I'm about to do....

Originally posted by Laminator_X
When Kahuna gets within a few hundred meters of ground level, Ben Dreadcrawler throws a Flash Bang grenade up at him. Not too close, just close enough for hand granades and timed just right for no throwback. Benedict's millenia of army life (feat post to follow) allows him to do this perfectly. [b]FLASHBANG! What would normally be a nice set-up for a serious coup de grace will be uber-effective against Kahuna, thanks to Sabertooth's hyper-senses and Venom's weakness to sonic attacks! (This'll still work just fine if he parachute's, I'll just have more time to prepare)[/B]

okay two things wrong with this... first off you're assuming you're going to be able to see me and what I'm doing without the same in return.... nope..not gonna happen.... with my superior eyesight.... I'll just scope you out...if I see you starting to do anything other than standing and waiting for my arrival I ditch the batwings for a webbing parchute that my symbiote can hold onto while I use my bullseye presicion aiming to let lose with my baretas.... I'm not entirely sure how you think you're going to have any leisure time to get prepared for what you're saying you're going to do when I'm raining bullets, webbing, or energy shields upon you.... you duck behind a tree I energy sheild the mofo to chop it down and start shooting at you after you're in plain sight... you try to run accross on opening I let loose with webbing... simply put..... you won't have time...and you'll be under tons of pressure...

now onto the flashbang..... if you hit me with it, it wouldn't do much.. it would disable the symbiote for a moment IF it does anything at all... IF

my proof you ask?

shriek let lose with a full on scream at venom and he marched head on into it... unfortunately because he was already weakened from his previous fight with carnage in a burning house he stopped just short of getting to her...your flashbang isn't a continously pouring attack like shrieks scream so I'm not worried.....not only thatbut brock was fine after the assualt and only got put down cause carnage came in and booted his non-symbiote-covered noggin..... as far as my hyper senses go... unless you want TBK to go into a berserker rage where his physical nature and stats increase even further and his acknolwedgement of pain decreases a great deal while his fighting ability gets better etc etc... i would suggest you not to do that... remember I can heal MULTIPLE mortal wounds in seconds.. a grenade designed to stun me will just piss me off...(againl..... IF it does anything at all...IF it hits me in the first place..which it won't as I'm about to explain)....sorry bra...

and not the ultimate reason that won't do any good... IF you throw that sucker up at me... I shred the parachute strings and go into freefall COMPLETELY BYPASSING your attack yet again.... wolverine jumped out of a shield hellicarrier into the beam of a skyscraper and just got up.. tbk's more durable and now has a venom symbiote what little fall I have left when I get within your throwing distance won't be even noticed by tbk...literally I'll just get up without even caring... (wolverine also went on a freefall 11 stories and got up at a full sprint...)..TBK's better and more durbable than that by multiple times over...

Originally posted by Laminator_X
[b]And now for that coup de grace: I will now blast the living bajeezis out of the Big Kahuna with my sword's energy blasts. These blasts shatter boulders without ebsorbing beams for a powerup. They blow holes in spaceship hulls when they're juiced (again scans to follow, I'll stay up late tonight 😈 ). Between free-fall and the stun grenade, BK'll be in no position to dodge. Then just for kicks, I'll hit him again with both the sword blast and the laser. And again. Then he'll hit the ground. Hard (or less hard if he makes the 'chute. OTOH, if he does that, I'll get to shoot him some more 😈 ) ![/B]

one you didn't exactly have time to charge it up... two you didn't hit me with the flashbang... three if you did, it didn't do anything but make me mad.. and four I'm now on the ground and fully capable of dodging the shit out of your pathetic blasts... not only that but I have an energy sheild to boot... I can just as easily deflect the blasts as much as I can dance circles around them....

venom dodges blasts like that all the time against the jury and such...
sabretooth's moved so fast he looked like he had vanished after bullets where fired in his direction.... they never hit their mark...
taskmaster has to dodge multiple attacks of the sort when dealing with the avengers and dodged multiple gunfire when he had to infiltrate that mob-bosses headquarters..

now combine all that together... sorry but you ain't hitting shiiiiit.... nothing at all....

Originally posted by Laminator_X
[b]BK's tough enough to regenerate from this sort of mega assault,

Jinzin's been dominating the posting. I'm gonna wait for a few more posts from Lam, then I'll vote. I'm leaning towards jinzin right now though I can tell you that. So come on Lam, post more strategies!

Okay, scanner seems to be on the fritz. If need be I'll borrow a digica from work tomorrow night to get you those Dreadstar images. For now, I'll focus on benedict since that just requires text. I'll site both the Amber Novels themselves, as well as the Amber Diceless RPG. Page numbers for the novels will be from the Great Book of Amber (ISBN 0-380-80906), which collects all the novels in one volume.

Here's a link to a brief summary of the Amber novels. The Princes of Amber are this family of demigods who can walk between worlds and never age. They've all mastered various different pursuits, and contend with one another for the Throne. They're all mildly superhuman in physique and mind, and some far moreso in their chosen specialties/obsessions. Benedict has devoted his ageless existance to combat and war.

TTo quote the Amber Diceless RPG:

[b]

Benedict is a timeless warrior. He spends eons in Shadow, perfecting his craft, to the point where he is no longer challenged by his siblings. ...

He has a reputation as the best warrior in the family. Not just with a sword. with anything. Give him any weapon, any group of fighting men, any tactical or strategic situation, anything

He'll beat the snot out of you.

Let's say the guy is obsessed. For yuks Benedict fights wars. He'll find a place, somewhere out in Shadow, where they're fighting a war. He joins up on the loosing side, and fights until he wins. Then he finds a place, just like the first place, only where the loosers have a smaller army, and he joins up again, wins again. And he'll repeat the process with a tactical disadvantage, bad terrain, different weather, varying weapons and technology. Benedict will try every possable combination. ... He'll win every time.
(Amber diceless Roleplaying: Page 149

More to come.