Originally posted by Great Vengeance
I know most of you have a strong desire to live...its in our nature...however step back for a second, would it really be so bad if death was total detachment? No more worries, trivial tasks, biological needs, you would finnaly be at peace. Death is something to look forward to if anything, not fear. I would actually be disappointed if I was reincarnated back to earth, one lifetime of this shit is enough for me 🙄
Re: Death isnt so bad.
Originally posted by Great Vengeance
I know most of you have a strong desire to live...its in our nature...however step back for a second, would it really be so bad if death was total detachment? No more worries, trivial tasks, biological needs, you would finnaly be at peace. Death is something to look forward to if anything, not fear. I would actually be disappointed if I was reincarnated back to earth, one lifetime of this shit is enough for me 🙄
thas bull{well partly} u dont realize just how precious this "existance" is, neither do u know what lies after this ends. it might not be peaceful at all u know ❌
Re: Death isnt so bad.
Originally posted by Great Vengeance
I would actually be disappointed if I was reincarnated back to earth, one lifetime of this shit is enough for me 🙄
Lol.
Don't worry. All those stupid belief systems are as ridiculous as the people that actually believe them and even pattern their ENTIRE LIVES based on them. 😂
There's no "you" to be reincarnated but "YOU" are indeed incarnated over and over and over, every second of every minute. A useful exercise is to think of how nature works on a microcosmic level and then broaden that paradigm to the macrocosm and beyond. This can often give perspective when considering the big questions as you are now doing.
So, for example just as a plant grows flowers, or a tree yields fruit, the universe gives rise to sentient life forms. In other words, a plant "flowers", a tree "fruits", and the universe "I's".
We, are the universe "I'ing" itself.
Unlike a flower or a piece of fruit we are sentient. As a result we interact with the world around us and we are curious, ask questions and study the world in order to bette3r understand it and in order to advance our understanding of how we relate to the world at large, what our purpose is and what our destiny is to become.
So, in this sense we are also the universe "eyeing" itself. Studying itself in order to know itself.
But if you posit the concept of an infinite "God" as the first principle, then it's impossible for anything to be outside of this entity i.e. by definition, it is infinite in all regards.
Therefore, all of it, everything from the macro down to the infinitesimal, is a very real expression of the original 1st principle. Everything, space, time, energy, bugs, plants and people - all of it is derivative. THATS the reality of it all. The only question is, will mankind's everyday awareness ever reflect this reality or will we forever think as we do now, much like a Picasso painting that depicts fragmentation and a complete lack of unity and coherence?
Idk, but imo the survival of our species hinges on this one question. There is nothing "sacred" about human life or anu life form on earth. This is a huge universe, teaming with life and throughout even our own galaxy there are countless examples of failed "experiments" where intelligent species went extinct due to their own folly. We're on the road to the same end and believe me NOBODY out there will miss us if or when we're gone!
I don't give a damn about that old way of thinking. I don't ever want to die. I'm not terrified of f'king dieing just pissed off that we only last, what, 80, 90 years? Thats f'king ridiculous. I don't believe we have to die and someday no one will. Serious and legitimate scientists are certain that the 1st person who will live to 150years is already born. Genetic manipulation will eventually enhance longevity - and not so that your an old fart longer - no, more like you age slower, so your so called middle years will be extended with the looks and health you generally experience in your 30 - 50 y/o time period. We'd be a lot closer to that if it wasn't for all the religious zealots in this fricking world. Damn, I wish they would just f'ing disappear all at once. The rest of us would be so much happier and healthier!
Nano technology is coming! Yeah, little nanobots to cure diseases and repair the body. Thats a ways off like you say but I think waay before 2050 we're going to see what today would be considered "miraculous" things.
"Genomics", or the cracking of the human gene code has been essentially accomplished and the next stage is already well underway: "Proteomics", which is discovering exactly how the information in these genes are expressed - how it works - you kno, the mechanics of it all. Because it's a process or molecular "machinary" that involves protein molecules it's called "proteomics".
How brave of you. Why be so accepting of your ending though? I mean, do you REALLY think "You" will continue after your death in any way that preserves who you are right now? If so, then I geuss, yeah, "death" really isn't, is it.
Or - is it?
And if it is, if death is death, and you in fact DO NOT continue...
*To illustrate his point JA blows out the flame of a candle converting the lighted room into pitch darknwss.*
...do you now want to revise your assumptions and REALLY live rather than being kind of "interested" in living?
Lifes not life if you must lose it - and - deaths not death if you refuse it!
F##k oblivion. The easiest thing in the world is to fall down. I'm a mountain climber not an dweeb who would just as soon jump as survive. Wow, are you ever asleep, coppertop.
People don´t do anything useful in life, why they want to live longer... to extend the duration of their basic way of living based on every futile and unimportant desires. Those people will lose nothing with death, as they are already dead... its weird that they even fear it. It is the way someone live their life that make it good, not how many years he lived.
Me, for example, I don´t fear death, and I have some objectives that I expect to complete. If I achieve what I want, and reach a point when I feel that I did enough, then maybe I completed everything that I should do in this life. So maybe there is no reason to continue living(not that I would kill myself), it could even be boring if we lived for a long times... imagine been alive for a 1000 years.
I wonder why people want to live more, and more.. for what greater purpose they would live for... eternally having sex, or eating pizzas, or going out to parties...
Originally posted by Atlantis001
People don´t do anything useful in life, why they want to live longer... to extend the duration of their basic way of living based on every futile and unimportant desires. Those people will lose nothing with death, as they are already dead... its weird that they even fear it. It is the way someone live their life that make it good, not how many years he lived.Me, for example, I don´t fear death, and I have some objectives that I expect to complete. If I achieve what I want, and reach a point when I feel that I did enough, then maybe I completed everything that I should do in this life. So maybe there is no reason to continue living(not that I would kill myself), it could even be boring if we lived for a long times... imagine been alive for a 1000 years.
I wonder why people want to live more, and more.. for what greater purpose they would live for... eternally having sex, or eating pizzas, or going out to parties...