September's Debate - IS Harry A Horcrux?

The only point at which Voldemort could have made Harry one is at the end of Goblet of Fire.

It would be a stupid thing to do, unless Voldermort's plans have changed, which seem unlikely seeing as how he was going to kill Harry in Order of the Phoenix.

I agree with Ushman...yeah...

but if harrys a horcrux then that wud be the reason y voldemort wants to kill him...to get his soul back.
and the words in the prophecy r very specific "neither can live while the other survives" y use the word survives instead of live????
this could suggest that both of them could live as long as their existence is equal, meaning that voldemort would have to get all of his soul back because without it hes only "surviving" rather than "living"......

Why would be put his soul in Harry just to get it back? That's silly.

Yes, that's the whole point of the horcrux scheme, that the soul is meant to be split. And doesn't destroying the horcrux (like riddles diary) destroy the soul piece, of send it where ever? I don't thing Voldermort gets the pieces back, so killing Harry, if he were one, seems dangerous.

Yeah if Harry's Voldemort's horcrux he would be safeguarding him, not kill him. Unless of cos the threat of Harry killing him makes voldemort overlook a part of his soul. But then it begs the question, why make harry his horcrux at the first place? it does not seem to make sense. His real 'importance' only came after Trelawney's first Prophecy. Before the knowledge of the prophecy got out, he was any normal kid rite..

why would voldemort put a part of his soul into someone thats prophecized to kill him, so he then in turn has to kill him

no point in that

Originally posted by babysooner13
What? Okay, you all are confusing me. But my opinion is yes, Harry could be a HORCRUX. But in the end of the book when Harry says that he doesn't want to go to school... maybe he doesn't come back... Hogwarts isn't safe anymore... so that could lead up to finding out who he really is. Oh, how I wish Harry didn't grow up so fast!!! 🙁 You know, J.K. needs to make more books that realate to Harry Potter. I know she won't. But I only wish.

end_sarcasm

No.

I've been reading and some of you talk about the prophecy and about Voldermort as he know all of it.

Remember that voldermont didn't hear that whole prophecie, he heard part of it, that's why he sent death eaters to the ministry, and why he planted the memory of Mr. Weasley so Harry could get the prophecy then the death eaters would steal it from him, so he could hear it.

He only heard the part that says:

"The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches....Born to those who have thrice defied him, born as the seventh month dies."

He didn't hear the rest of it:

"And the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but he will have power the Dark Lord know not....and wither must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survivies....The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born as the seventh month dies

did Lily and James 'thrice defy him'?

yes they did..dumbledore said that to harry..so did neville's parents..defied He Who Must Not Be Named on three accounts.. But the point is, Harry cannot be the Horcrux..does not seem to make any sense. No time for that to happen anyways.

ok, listen
if you guys haven't noticed this yet then I'll point it out to you
"Nothing is impossible in a Harry Potter book"
if JK wants the last Horcux to be an underware, then she can do it.
it could be basicly anything right now!!!

Hear, hear!

That's not the point- eithee this debate is going to be carried on along rational lines or it is not. Yes, it could be anything, but if we are debating what it miught reasonably be, we do that on rational grounds. And with what we have, the idea that it is Harry fails to be rational.

Unless Voldemort unintentionally did it in his attempt to kill Harry the first time, I do not see how Harry could have his own soul snuggling in with a seventh of Voldemort's without Dumbledore identifying it quickly.

Also, wouldn't killing Harry mean destroying that piece of Voldemort's soul?

Harry being a horcrux makes perfect sense... Ok if harry kills voldie then he is still alive cuz he is part of harry. If vldie kills harry he loses part of his soul( which he wouldn't care about) then the one who could kill him is dead and he will live again

(sarcasm)Oh yeah, I'm sure Voldemort wouldn't mind losing a seventh of his soul...(/sarcasm)

Am I the only person who got the impression that Voldermort made his set of horcruxs some time ago, as in before he had a go at getting rid of Harry the first time? After all he began planning while still in school, and not long after had the beginnings of the set, his diary, the ring, the amulet, the cup and all that. Why would he have waited so long to make another when he was so eager to make seven and achieve his immortality and get all that power? And he didn't know about Harry when he began making them, so I don't see how he could of factored Harry in.

That's the impression I got, and I just thought it would be odd for him to wait so long to make that horcrux.

erm if harry was a horcrux do you think he would know? and how would voldemort have been able to put a horcruxe in harry if he tried to kill him? but yer it would make a bit of sense, but i don't know...