IQ Gender Difference?

Started by xmarksthespot9 pages

IQ Gender Difference?

Is this a clever thing to say about women's IQ?
By Tony Halpin, Education Editor, The Times

HALF the population will dismiss this story, but a study claims that the cleverest people are much more likely to be men than women.

Men are more intelligent than women by about five IQ points on average, making them better suited for "tasks of high complexity", according to the authors of a paper due to be published in the British Journal of Psychology.

Genetic differences in intelligence between the sexes helped to explain why many more men than women won Nobel Prizes or became chess grandmasters, the study by Paul Irwing and Professor Richard Lynn concluded.

They showed that men outnumbered women in increasing numbers as intelligence levels rise. There were twice as many with IQ scores of 125, a level typical for people with first-class degrees.

When scores rose to 155, a level associated with genius, there were 5.5 men for every woman.

Dr Irwing, a senior lecturer in organisational psychology at Manchester University, said that he was uncomfortable with the findings. But he added that the evidence was clear despite the insistence of many academics that there were "no meaningful sex differences" in levels of intelligence.

"For personal reasons I would like to believe that men and women are equal, and broadly that's true. But over a period of time the evidence in favour of biological factors has become stronger and stronger," he said.

"I have been dragged in a direction that I don't particularly like, but it would be sensible if the debate was based on what we pretty much know to be the case."

The findings from the study involving 24,000 students will intensify a battle of the sexes that was triggered last week by Michael Buerk, the BBC newscaster, who complained that "life is now being lived according to women's rules". He said that men had been reduced to little more than sperm-donors because of the female dominance of society.

Professor Lynn, a Professor Emeritus of Psychology at the University of Ulster, is no stranger to inflammatory conclusions as the author of a number of publications arguing that there are differences in intelligence between racial groups.

He published a controversial study in 2003 that identified a clear correlation between the levels of prosperity in 60 countries and the average IQ of their populations.

Professor Lynn argued in a letter to The Psychologist this month that the differences between the sexes were explained by a link between IQ and brain size. He said: "Men have larger brains than women by about 10 per cent and larger brains confer greater brain power, so men must necessarily be on average more intelligent than women."
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm interested to hear whether people (particularly women) agree or disagree with this study, and whether people think these findings are plausible?

schmoll
IQ tests are generaly unfair anyway.

oh..and brain size have nothing to do with intelligence. look at gorilla.

Re: IQ Gender Difference?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
[b]Is this a clever thing to say about women's IQ?
By Tony Halpin, Education Editor, The Times

HALF the population will dismiss this story, but a study claims that the cleverest people are much more likely to be men than women.

Men are more intelligent than women by about five IQ points on average, making them better suited for "tasks of high complexity", according to the authors of a paper due to be published in the British Journal of Psychology.

Genetic differences in intelligence between the sexes helped to explain why many more men than women won Nobel Prizes or became chess grandmasters, the study by Paul Irwing and Professor Richard Lynn concluded.

They showed that men outnumbered women in increasing numbers as intelligence levels rise. There were twice as many with IQ scores of 125, a level typical for people with first-class degrees.

When scores rose to 155, a level associated with genius, there were 5.5 men for every woman.

Dr Irwing, a senior lecturer in organisational psychology at Manchester University, said that he was uncomfortable with the findings. But he added that the evidence was clear despite the insistence of many academics that there were "no meaningful sex differences" in levels of intelligence.

"For personal reasons I would like to believe that men and women are equal, and broadly that's true. But over a period of time the evidence in favour of biological factors has become stronger and stronger," he said.

"I have been dragged in a direction that I don't particularly like, but it would be sensible if the debate was based on what we pretty much know to be the case."

The findings from the study involving 24,000 students will intensify a battle of the sexes that was triggered last week by Michael Buerk, the BBC newscaster, who complained that "life is now being lived according to women's rules". He said that men had been reduced to little more than sperm-donors because of the female dominance of society.

Professor Lynn, a Professor Emeritus of Psychology at the University of Ulster, is no stranger to inflammatory conclusions as the author of a number of publications arguing that there are differences in intelligence between racial groups.

He published a controversial study in 2003 that identified a clear correlation between the levels of prosperity in 60 countries and the average IQ of their populations.

Professor Lynn argued in a letter to The Psychologist this month that the differences between the sexes were explained by a link between IQ and brain size. He said: "Men have larger brains than women by about 10 per cent and larger brains confer greater brain power, so men must necessarily be on average more intelligent than women."
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm interested to hear whether people (particularly women) agree or disagree with this study, and whether people think these findings are plausible? [/B]

Yep.

off course men are smarter............geeeesh as that wasn`t common knowledge

Originally posted by Clovie
schmoll
IQ tests are generaly unfair anyway.

oh..and brain size have nothing to do with intelligence. look at gorilla.

😆 😂 😆

w00t men are smarter then women but keep in mind men, if a woman takes of her shirt, you become as dumb as rock and you all know this 😐

Originally posted by Leo.M
😆 😂 😆

w00t men are smarter then women but keep in mind men, if a woman takes of her shirt, you become as dumb as rock and you all know this 😐

I think you mean as hard as a rock.

IQ tests generally have more logical questions than any other type and it's already documented that male brains are better suited to logic and females are better suited to common sense. If the IQ tests were able to incorporate more questions geared towards common sense then the results may well be reversed.

Originally posted by BackFire
I think you mean as hard as a rock.

✅ yes, that too

Originally posted by Corran
IQ tests generally have more logical questions than any other type and it's already documented that male brains are better suited to logic and females are better suited to common sense. If the IQ tests were able to incorporate more questions geared towards common sense then the results may well be reversed.

thats true.

Originally posted by BackFire
I think you mean as hard as a rock.

😆 😆 😆

a saying thats true in several different ways

WOMEN SUCK

😆

I can name at least 20 men(boys) on this board alone whos intelligence can not compete with mine, at any level.

I can name at least 20 men(boys) on this board alone whos intelligence can not compete with mine, at any level.
any level???? ok Norwegian History

Originally posted by finti
any level???? ok Norwegian History
VIKINGS!!! 😱

sowwie 😮

Originally posted by finti
any level???? ok Norwegian History

Don't be a hater girlfriend, mhm! *snap*

Don't be a hater girlfriend, mhm! *snap*
you aint up for the challenge, the Danish influence on the Nordic countries the last 500 years, cultural ,economical and religious

Norwegian History and intelligence dont acturly have anything to do with eachother, intelligence and Knowleage is completely diffrent, knowing say all the capitals or maybe all the top 100 highest mountains has very little to do with any sort of intelligence.

How odd, I was just watching a program about this very subject. I can't actually recall what the show was, which kind of answers the question posed, but it was about genius children. The show examined children who seem to have been born with inate abilities, such as a proclivity for math and science, or gifts for understanding and producing music, playing the piano at age five, etc. And on the whole, these kids were males more often than females.

I don't think, however, that means that men are more intelligent than women, or have any more or less capacity to learn or apply that knowledge. Also, I think that the inequities in the roles of the two genders in society has lent itself to more men being discovered with the special gifts the show mentioned.

One interesting thing I did notice during teh show, was that a lot of these child prodigies were first generation Americans. Their parents were, more often than not, immigrants.

intelligence and Knowleage is completely diffrent, knowing say all the capitals or maybe all the top 100 highest mountains has very little to do with any sort of intelligence.
she said at any levels and knowledge of different subjects makes up part of your intelligence

Originally posted by finti
she said at any levels and knowledge of different subjects makes up part of your intelligence

Don't confuse education with intelligence no2