How can you say just hit with a plasma gun will kill Wolverine when it takes atleast two shots to kill a small grunt.... And it takes atleast a million shots with the plasma gun to kill one of those hunter things.... So I doubt just one shot's gonna kill Wolverine, and by the time MC actually hurts Wolverine he's gonna have to let the plasma gun cool down, wich will be Wolverines chance to cut his head off ...
beacause unlike wolverine... those things are equiped with armor... armor designed to deflect the damage done by that gun... wolverine has not been designed to live in a world populated by plasma based weapons...
Lets go over the facts one more time for the kids who wern't listening at the back of the class... MC is faster then wolverine... Hes also much stronger... Schools out mako... go do your homework next time...
Originally posted by Hit_and_MissWhat I find funny is how you were all "science, science" in the other thread, and in this one your all like "no science, no sicience."
I'm not abandoning science.... I don't know much about plasma... I will read up on it in a bit...
I was just pointing out, that you didn't wana even think about science before now your first point is about science... though it was kinda funny..
That's why I pointed out that you were supporting a scientifically flawed argument.
Originally posted by Hit_and_MissBut they don't melt the walls.
The game and the books version of plasma is the same... it would just one big game mechanic if everything melted...tho they clearly show burn marks when you shoot the walls with a plasma gun...
Game: Hot enough to scorch.
Book: Hot enough to melt.
Originally posted by Hit_and_MissTHINK about that. . .
Hes not firing mini suns... Hes firing plasma that BURNS at the temp of the sun...
Why does something melt as it approches the sun? Not even touching, just proximity.
Oh, I don't know, maybe the extreme HEAT?
Now if these things are as hot as the sun the entire surronding area would be melted. INCLUDING any weapons or armor a person has on then.
Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
beacause unlike wolverine... those things are equiped with armor... armor designed to deflect the damage done by that gun... wolverine has not been designed to live in a world populated by plasma based weapons...Lets go over the facts one more time for the kids who wern't listening at the back of the class... MC is faster then wolverine... Hes also much stronger... Schools out mako... go do your homework next time...
😆 Hearing people talk tough over the internet always cracks me up...
It's funny that the alliens in the Halo universe have this armor that can deflect plasma beams as hot as the sun but yet at the same time most of them can't live threw a clip or two from man made machine guns....
MC might be able to get one MAYBE two shots of a plasma gun on Wolverine before the thing over heats.. Then MC's pretty much screwed..
Wolverine's also alot more stealthy then MC is, so a suprise attack would be simple on MC seeing as MC has very little if no stealth skills at all.
Wolverine would also be able to pick up MC log before MC even knew Wolverine was aroung him... Wolverines scent is alot stronger then MC's radar, if I took a rough guess I'd say the rader in the game covered about a 30 by 30 foot range.. While Wolverines scent is so much stronger, even in the games you can trace people scent and foot prints long before you even get to them.. And in the Halo games if you duck down and walk you can avoid the radar all together..
Originally posted by Creshosk
What I find funny is how you were all "science, science" in the other thread, and in this one your all like "no science, no sicience."That's why I pointed out that you were supporting a scientifically flawed argument.
But they don't melt the walls.
Game: Hot enough to scorch.
Book: Hot enough to melt.
LOL cresh what are you going on about.... I said I was supprised your using science seeing how you knocked me for using it... I'm not trying to disprove your science yet...
As I said.. They don't melt walls as I would cause A huge problem with the workings of the game... Could you imagen playing online where people can create caves to hide in.... don't be silly cresh... the stuff burns though 3 meters of Grade A millitary Titanium...
Originally posted by Creshosk
THINK about that. . .Why does something melt as it approches the sun? Not even touching, just proximity.
Oh, I don't know, maybe the extreme HEAT?
Now if these things are as hot as the sun the entire surronding area would be melted. INCLUDING any weapons or armor a person has on then.
They are not physicaly as hot as the sun... but they melt with the temp of the sun... I will have to read up on it again... But its a minor point anyways... We all know its going to melt though wolverine.. It melts though All other humans in the books... the game humans are a little more resilient as there armor improved abit, and they try to make the soldiers last a little longer as well...
Originally posted by Mako Victim
It's funny that the alliens in the Halo universe have this armor that can deflect plasma beams as hot as the sun but yet at the same time most of them can't live threw a clip or two from man made machine guns....MC might be able to get one MAYBE two shots of a plasma gun on Wolverine before the thing over heats.. Then MC's pretty much screwed..
Wolverine's also alot more stealthy then MC is, so a suprise attack would be simple on MC seeing as MC has very little if no stealth skills at all.
Wolverine would also be able to pick up MC log before MC even knew Wolverine was aroung him... Wolverines scent is alot stronger then MC's radar, if I took a rough guess I'd say the rader in the game covered about a 30 by 30 foot range.. While Wolverines scent is so much stronger, even in the games you can trace people scent and foot prints long before you even get to them.. And in the Halo games if you duck down and walk you can avoid the radar all together..
Yes there Armor was designed to be affective against energy based weaponry... Bullets will kill them as they are not designed to be affective against them... However they do offer them some protection..
I think you will find MC is a good shot.. Hes not going to be panic firing at wolverine... he will be alot more effective then you give him credit for... even if he only gets 2 hits... those will be 2 fist sized holes going straight though wolverine... leaving nothing but his addy bones left... Can wolverine fight with 2 holes in him??? or will he be lying on the ground praying MC doesn't shoot him again???
MC without his suit... with only army overalls broke into an army base designed to keep him out. (It was a trainning exercise, using live rounds and a couple of Mechs... MC broke the mechs with his fist, disabled all the hidden cameras and accevied the objective, capturing a flag...) hes not some rookie, hes been trainned to be stealthy, He might not have all wolverines tracking abilites but his sensors have quite a nice range, hes got very good eyesight and can see in the dark.
You make it like Wolverine will have all this intell on MC while hes going in blind.... will MC even have a sent? his suit it fully sealed...
Again... MC will hold his own against wolverine in H2H, and nail him at long range...
Originally posted by Mako VictimSo wolverine flies and the air and does a kamehameha.
HAHA!!!!! 😆 Little kids are so funnyListen, you can't count logic in comics, there always in state of constant flux.. When you compare universes the characters are always equal, it doesn't matter if you compare Superman to Thor or Superman to Wolverine. Each character has an equal chance of winning..
Superman beats Thor but loss to Mumm-ra from the Thundercats, it's a perfect example of it....
And so is Wolverine beating Lobo, Lobo might have all these cool powers in his comics but when you cross universes like that all that stuff goes out the door...
Let me say it better, logic might be used used in comics but not in crossovers..
So if Wolverine was to ever fight MC all logic would go out the door, especially when you compare two character's form two totally different universes in a fight like that.....
So yeah, it's totallty possible that MC might be able to take Wolverine, I don't think he could but it's possible..If they ever fought I doubt Wolverine would just instantly heal from every thing MC threw at him, but on the other hand I doubt MC would be able to simply just move around Wolverine with his super reflexes and just pop countless caps in his ass till he falls over dead...
I could list countless examples of it, but hopefully you have the intelligence to understandwhat I'm getting at..... [hopefully]
There is no winner going by there abilities, because that would be logical, wouldn't it?
We should just make up stuff.
This ISN'T a comic book, its a theoretical debate. If you are going to say "it happens" then why come here.
By your mind, wolverine beats goku.
LOL U fanboy c-master! goku beating wolverine... goku couldn't beat cell what chance does he have against wolverine, who can come back from 1/2 a cell... learn all of gokus powers...!
I think the key to beating fanboys might lie in there insane use of logic... perhaps equally puzzling logic would fry there brains...
Questions like... what came first Big Boss or Snake?
Originally posted by Hit_and_MissWhat I'm saying is you only seem to use science ewhen it suits you, and ignore it when it doesn't. 😉
LOL cresh what are you going on about.... I said I was supprised your using science seeing how you knocked me for using it... I'm not trying to disprove your science yet...
Originally posted by Hit_and_MissSure, that'd be fun to have a dynamic mesh map. 🙂
As I said.. They don't melt walls as I would cause A huge problem with the workings of the game... Could you imagen playing online where people can create caves to hide in.... don't be silly cresh... the stuff burns though 3 meters of Grade A millitary Titanium...
But they haven't even tried it. . .
In the book it melts the titanium right? 😉
Originally posted by Hit_and_Missno when you say that it will melt through him you mean his flesh right? Too bad that hasn't stopped him before. 😬
They are not physicaly as hot as the sun... but they melt with the temp of the sun.../[quote] Again, contradiction, either they are or they are not as hot as the sun. 😐[QUOTE=5106272]Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
I will have to read up on it again... But its a minor point anyways... We all know its going to melt though wolverine.. It melts though All other humans in the books... the game humans are a little more resilient as there armor improved abit, and they try to make the soldiers last a little longer as well...
Originally posted by Hit_and_MissHe has before, dude's tough as nails. . I couldn't put up with half the damage or pain he's taken.
Can wolverine fight with 2 holes in him???
Originally posted by Hit_and_MissYeah, Bloodhounds are amazing trackers. Watched a special where they used a bloodhound to track a girl who had been transported via car.
You make it like Wolverine will have all this intell on MC while hes going in blind.... will MC even have a sent? his suit it fully sealed...
I'd need to know exactly how the respitory system on MC's suit works, if it has an out vent for CO2 then that's going to be a major problem for MC.
Originally posted by Hit_and_MissYeah, but I'm not sure how he's going to win h2h. He probably could hold his own, but the problem is that Wolverine still has a higher durability. Wolverine can heal from the damage he takes faster than the damage MC can take.
Again... MC will hold his own against wolverine in H2H, and nail him at long range...
Originally posted by Hit_and_MissSatan. . I think Wolverine can take Satan. . or any of the noname or non-fighter characters in DBZ. . . any of the real main ones, I don't see him winning. . . even Videl whoops his Canadian Bacon.
LOL U fanboy c-master! goku beating wolverine... goku couldn't beat cell what chance does he have against wolverine, who can come back from 1/2 a cell... learn all of gokus powers...!
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
So wolverine flies and the air and does a kamehameha.There is no winner going by there abilities, because that would be logical, wouldn't it?
We should just make up stuff.
This ISN'T a comic book, its a theoretical debate. If you are going to say "it happens" then why come here.
By your mind, wolverine beats goku.
No,no,no..... By my mind Goku kills Wolverine.. But when you bring stuff like Wolverine beating Lobo what else is there to say, it just happend, Wolverine stabed him in the face and that was the end of that... To be honest I think Lobo should of crushed Wolverine but it didn't happen, what else is there to debate about the fight????
MC versus Wolverine is a theorectical debate, but it Wolverine VS Lobo isn't cause there's nothing to debate about it, it already happend...
Originally posted by Creshosk
What I'm saying is you only seem to use science ewhen it suits you, and ignore it when it doesn't. 😉Sure, that'd be fun to have a dynamic mesh map. 🙂
But they haven't even tried it. . .
In the book it melts the titanium right? 😉
no when you say that it will melt through him you mean his flesh right? Too bad that hasn't stopped him before. 😬
He has before, dude's tough as nails. . I couldn't put up with half the damage or pain he's taken.
Yeah, Bloodhounds are amazing trackers. Watched a special where they used a bloodhound to track a girl who had been transported via car.
I'd need to know exactly how the respitory system on MC's suit works, if it has an out vent for CO2 then that's going to be a major problem for MC.
Yeah, but I'm not sure how he's going to win h2h. He probably could hold his own, but the problem is that Wolverine still has a higher durability. Wolverine can heal from the damage he takes faster than the damage MC can take.
Ok.. for the last time... I'm not against science... I haven't nocked its use. quote me where I ignore it when it doesn't suit me... The game can't have the lvl of detail that the book has... they haven't created models for the internals of the spartans... but the plasma gun has burned holes though MC suit... (it did it to some of the other spartans not actually MC suit though)
If MC connects with a punch wolverine will go flying... in the time it takes wolverine to get back to him his shields will recharge... and wolverine will have another 2 holes in him... I know wolverine is really durable and would take alot... but mc could just run away from him and shoot him.... Hes quicker then wolverine as well...
Originally posted by Mako Victim
No,no,no..... By my mind Goku kills Wolverine.. But when you bring stuff like Wolverine beating Lobo what else is there to say, it just happend, Wolverine stabed him in the face and that was the end of that... To be honest I think Lobo should of crushed Wolverine but it didn't happen, what else is there to debate about the fight????MC versus Wolverine is a theorectical debate, but it Wolverine VS Lobo isn't cause there's nothing to debate about it, it already happend...
Go start a thread of WOLVERINE VS LOBO... see what people say in that thread... I bet more then half of them ignore that fight as it clearly shouldn't of turned out like that...
Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Ok.. for the last time... I'm not against science... I haven't nocked its use. quote me where I ignore it when it doesn't suit me...
*points to this thread*
"Yeah well plasma in halo..."
Originally posted by Hit_and_MissSo the Book and the game are seperate then?
The game can't have the lvl of detail that the book has...
Originally posted by Hit_and_MissAnd it melted the environs like anything that was as hot as the sun would do?
they haven't created models for the internals of the spartans... but the plasma gun has burned holes though MC suit... (it did it to some of the other spartans not actually MC suit though)
Originally posted by Hit_and_MissProvided he lands that hit. And toning down his healing factor to allow for "another". And provided the sheilds can deflect as much damage and provided. . blah blah blah. . . etc etc etc.
If MC connects with a punch wolverine will go flying... in the time it takes wolverine to get back to him his shields will recharge... and wolverine will have another 2 holes in him... I know wolverine is really durable and would take alot... but mc could just run away from him and shoot him.... Hes quicker then wolverine as well...