Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
Yes but a shotgun up close kills an MC entirely.. isnt wolvie stronger than a shotgun blast? 😬
Futuristic shotgun... not now shotgun... his suit got changed for halo2 He originaly was strong against bullets/weak against plasma... It got changed to weak against bullets/bit stronger against plasma... (partly to fight the covenant... They don't use human weapons, Partly for multiplayer..)
Originally posted by Hit_and_Missok.. so do have any technical specs on the shotgun, that denotes it as being far more advanced than what we have in this era?
Futuristic shotgun... not now shotgun... his suit got changed for halo2 He originaly was strong against bullets/weak against plasma... It got changed to weak against bullets/bit stronger against plasma... (partly to fight the covenant... They don't use human weapons, Partly for multiplayer..)
Enough to take wolverine down, wolverine is a peak human with claws, and superhuman durability which can be overcome, and its not as hard as you make it seemHe has been beaten by Daredevil, Ko'ed by cap, spiderman whooped the xmen, hulk beats him, thing ko'ed him with a slight hit, silver samurai has, and an old man with a kane. Marrow gagged him.
Its pis/cis, stop using them please, don't go to the comic forum, you'll be labeled a fanboy.
I hate arguments like these, and its why kmc is shit, nowhere have you said how wolverine wins or why, but what he has done in the past.
I find it funny that you complain about me not telling how Wolverine won when you're saying stuff like Daredevil beating Wolverine without giving the the same type of explination you seem to be crying about.......
And please enlighten me as to how Spiderman WHOOPED the whole X-men, I assume it was the whole X-men right, and not something like Spiderman running into the masion kicking Cyclops in the face and jumping out of a window right?
Whats this got to do with a canadian mutant getting his ass handed to him. To top it off you make it seem like Ogun *beat* him.Which one is it?
Okay, I'll say it one more time for the child who had to take the small bus to school, WOLVERINE BEAT OGUN!!!!! Happy....
Furthermore you have nothing statistical to back up your data.Look who's talking....
Its plain stupid when fanboys, yes fanboys, put in ridiculous matches without realizing a characters boundairies.Lobo, are you on crack? Lobo is a superman level character, the people around here are debating that superman can beat goku, but you think wolverine beats LOBO? Wolverine isn't strong enough to cut him, and if he did, guess what another lobo shows up.
This is exactly what I'm talking about, People like yourself saying how it's impossible for Wolverine to do this or that when it's already happend... Yes Wolverine beat Lobo, and yes Wolverine could cut him.. And if a another Lobo showed up he'd probably do the same damn thing again...
Thing ko'ed him in one punch. Spiderman beat firelord, so I guess he can beat superman eh?No. 😂
Superman!!!!! If Mumm-ra from the Thundercats could beat Superman in one hit then Wolverine would for sure have a shot at him... A little kryptonite and Supes is in big trouble..
Why debate then, if you are going to say "it happened, get over it!!" why be here?
I'm not debating whether or not Wolverine beat Lobo because it already happend... Plain and simple, nothing else to discuss about that.. But Wolverine never fought MC before so it's fun to talk [or argue] about it..
Now I know why I left this forum.
Originally posted by Mako Victim
I find it funny that you complain about me not telling how Wolverine won when you're saying stuff like Daredevil beating Wolverine without giving the the same type of explination you seem to be crying about.......
I'm doing it to show you why its not fair, stop using high end feats that are full of pis to support your arguments.
Its not when or what happened, its why something will happen.
Originally posted by Mako Victim
And please enlighten me as to how Spiderman WHOOPED the whole X-men, I assume it was the whole X-men right, and not something like Spiderman running into the masion kicking Cyclops in the face and jumping out of a window right?
Secret wars, ditched xavier, and went around wolverine, storm, rogue, nightcrawler, and clossus.
He also did it again with a kid in his hand.
Originally posted by Mako Victim
Okay, I'll say it one more time for the child who had to take the small bus to school, WOLVERINE BEAT OGUN!!!!! Happy....
I didn't say he didn't did I? Go point out where I said this, it is irrelevant, you cant logically explain it so its pointless.
You don't know anything about a logical theoretical debate.
Originally posted by Mako Victim
Look who's talking....
I just told you about your own character.
Originally posted by Mako Victim
This is exactly what I'm talking about, People like yourself saying how it's impossible for Wolverine to do this or that when it's already happend... Yes Wolverine beat Lobo, and yes Wolverine could cut him.. And if a another Lobo showed up he'd probably do the same damn thing again...
Fans, sales, unfortunately "it happened" is a shit argument here. It explains nothing in a logical/theoretical debate, it doesn't make it logical.
No wolverine lifts 800 lbs, he can't cult colossus, so why could he cut lobo?
Superman has had his ass beat by lobo, so wolverine can beat him.
Please fanboy, please.
Originally posted by Mako Victim
Superman!!!!! If Mumm-ra from the Thundercats could beat Superman in one hit then Wolverine would for sure have a shot at him... A little kryptonite and Supes is in big trouble..
Kryptonite isn't in this matchup moron.
Superman has heat vision, faster than light, hotter than the sun.
Yea.
Originally posted by Mako Victim
I'm not debating whether or not Wolverine beat Lobo because it already happend... Plain and simple, nothing else to discuss about that.. But Wolverine never fought MC before so it's fun to talk [or argue] about it..
You just don't get it do you, why come and say 'it happened" why make a debate.
PIS/CIS aren't allowed in this forums, so go take a look at that will you before you answer the next question.
You DID just debate how he could beat lobo, AND superman which makes your argument out of the water, and absurd.
Plain and simple.
Originally posted by Mako Victim
Then it's funny how you keep poping up after you left 🙄
How many times was this?
And its "popping".
Secret wars, ditched xavier, and went around wolverine, storm, rogue, nightcrawler, and clossus.
Fans, sales, unfortunately "it happened" is a shit argument here. It explains nothing in a logical/theoretical debate, it doesn't make it logical.No wolverine lifts 800 lbs, he can't cult colossus, so why could he cut lobo?
Superman has had his ass beat by lobo, so wolverine can beat him.
Please fanboy, please.
First off, when it comes to logical stuff comics really wouldn't make sense anyway, there always in a constent state of flux, they have magic
how the hell can that be explained with logic??? Wolverine stabed Lobo in the face and beat him, nuff said...
Kryptonite isn't in this matchup moron.Superman has heat vision, faster than light, hotter than the sun.
Yea.
Fanboy
Fanboy
You just don't get it do you, why come and say 'it happened" why make a debate.
Then lets drop it right now, we all know Wolverine beat Lobo, nuff said..
Originally posted by Hit_and_MissThe problem is that you can only advance certain specific things so far. How much more advanced can they make the shotgun, before it's no longer a shotgun?
I would guess being soo many years into the future they made advances... but the games don't give info on the output of the guns...
Giving it the capability to fire energy changes it from being a shotgun to something else. A gun that fires magnetically accelerated slugs is not a shotgun either, that one is a railgun. . .
We have some pretty powerful shotguns nowaday. . .
Originally posted by Mako Victim
HE WENT AROUND!!! I hardly consider that beating the X-men, and if I remember right it was Xavier that stop Spiderman by making him forget what he was doing...First off, when it comes to logical stuff comics really wouldn't make sense anyway, there always in a constent state of flux, they have magic
how the hell can that be explained with logic??? Wolverine stabed Lobo in the face and beat him, nuff said...Yeah, lets not put kryptonighte in any of his matchups, considering the fact it just turns him into a weak little homo.
Fanboy
FanboyThen lets drop it right now, we all know Wolverine beat Lobo, nuff said..
Great yet another person who doesn't understand logic.
*sigh*
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Great yet another person who doesn't understand logic.*sigh*
Heh... I'm sorry if I actually got to much of a life to care about the logic between the fight, it's a comic!!! Who gives a shit.... I don't see how people like you can even enjoy reading a comic, if your so Worried about the logic of the fight then how do you actually enjoy the comic itself.....
If your looking for logic in comics then your in the wrong place..
Originally posted by Mako Victim
Heh... I'm sorry if I actually got to much of a life to care about the logic between the fight, it's a comic!!! Who gives a shit.... I don't see how people like you can even enjoy reading a comic, if your so Worried about the logic of the fight then how do you actually enjoy the comic itself.....If your looking for logic in comics then your in the wrong place..
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No dope, logic is reasoning for inference, ignorance is your friend.
Logic dictates that you are a hypocrite for setting a double standard by mocking me, while you are wasting your time the exact same way.
Now go touch yourself like you always do. 😆
Kids...
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
So does this image offer any assistance to bring the power to scale?... or do we need a gun freak on hand..
I doubt any comparison can be drawn... although you know the caliber size.. I don;t think the shot would be the same...
The gun interacts with his suit to shot the targeting reticule... there must of been other advances..
Originally posted by Hit_and_Misswolverine isn't stronger than a shotgun blast, he's a peak human.
Futuristic shotgun... not now shotgun... his suit got changed for halo2 He originaly was strong against bullets/weak against plasma... It got changed to weak against bullets/bit stronger against plasma... (partly to fight the covenant... They don't use human weapons, Partly for multiplayer..)
Forget that he lifts 800
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterI think he's above peak human.. his many cat like attributes make him a ferocious combatant... his rapid healing is very nice too
wolverine isn't stronger than a shotgun blast, he's a peak human.Forget that he lifts 800
I figure.. if chief takes such and such damage from a shotgun..
then wolvie takes such and such.. (if we ever take a certain caliber of gun and rate how they would be damaged by it).. then we can make some sort of judgement about where they stand to one another
Originally posted by Hit_and_Missand there you go belittling characters again.. adamantium steel.. its not like its bone claw wolverine or something.. then I could agree they're chopsticks
tell me bout it c-m people here think that cause shotgun kills MC wolvies chopsticks will....
Satsujin... how strong do you think mc is?...
If we give wolverine a 1 ton limit (seeing as MC punching MC takes a little under half his shield down) I would say wolverine would need about 7-10 sequentual blows...
I would say MC would probably still put wolverine down with 2-5 shots from a plasma rifle..