Should I forgive Germany?

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
and your angry because I made a distinction between race and sexuality I stand by, I also feel no one should be perssecuted for there sexuality. Being Gay is quite natural for people who are Gay and should hold no stigma.

But my sexuality does not define me - my race and culture does, I am English but | am also Romany

I'm not mad that you differentiate. I might be mad the germans didn't, but not you. Gypsies are also no different genetically than any other human being, gay, black, jew, etc.

My sexuality doesn't come close to defining me. But, you are defining yourself as a gypsy....so, how do you resemble the gypsies of the day in the '30s and 40's? And, how important could your "race" be...when you aren't even spelling it correctly?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I'm not mad that you differentiate. I might be mad the germans didn't, but not you. Gypsies are also no different genetically than any other human being, gay, black, jew, etc.

My sexuality doesn't come close to defining me. But, you are defining yourself as a gypsy....so, how do you resemble the gypsies of the day in the '30s and 40's?

thats how we spell it!

If you understood Rom you would know, however I will endeavour to explain. I speak the language to a point, it is a South England dialect but some of the words date back a thousand years, as a child I went travelling often with the elders which is still common in England and learnt the old ways. Our culture is still very much alive in the UK andf I share this and a memory handed down of a thousand years of persecution, in many countries including Scotland and France it was legal to shoot Gypsies up until the last century.

I am descended from Indians as are all Rom my blood is mixed with Irish tinker as is common in uk travellers. We are still persecuted.

So, is that why you have yet to spell it correctly?

Even the website you reference has yet to spell it the way you have been spelling it. Granted, I haven't read it all, but not once have I seen it spelled the way you have. Neither Rom, nor Romany, are spelled the way you have been.

I keep seeing it as Roma and Romani

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
thats how we spell it!

in many countries including Scotland and France it was legal to shoot Gypsies up until the last century.....

It was legal to shoot ANYBODY who trespassed.

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt

We are still persecuted.

what and how are you persecuted ? by zee germans ?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
So, is that why you have yet to spell it correctly?

Even the website you reference has yet to spell it the way you have been spelling it. Granted, I haven't read it all, but not once have I seen it spelled the way you have. Neither Rom, nor Romany, are spelled the way you have been.

I keep seeing it as Roma and Romani

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Romany+gypsy

220 000 sites

Originally posted by GCG
It was legal to shoot ANYBODY who trespassed.

what and how are you persecuted ? by zee germans ?

no special laws existed for gypsies

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Romany+gypsy

Capt F is very wrong about the spelling do you wish to debate this sensibly

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Romany+gypsy

220 000 sites

"Results 1 - 10 of about 3,870,000 for romani [definition]. (0.15 seconds"

And beyond that, the very page you're referencing doesn't even spell it the way you do.

Look, beyond that, what do you want the Germans of today to do? What?...do you want your own country in the middle east? The entire reason that I'm arguing with you, is that you've gone so far as to begin another thread based on your total misunderstanding (and refusal to attempt to understand) of another thread.

A little on us and present persecution in the UK education system

http://preschool.atalink.co.uk/articles/51

So then you killed him right?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
"Results 1 - 10 of about 3,870,000 for romani [definition]. (0.15 seconds"

And beyond that, the very page you're referencing doesn't even spell it the way you do.

Look, beyond that, what do you want the Germans of today to do? What?...do you want your own country in the middle east? The entire reason that I'm arguing with you, is that you've gone so far as to begin another thread based on your total misunderstanding (and refusal to attempt to understand) of another thread.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/southeast/series6/gypsy_travels.shtml

The BBC spells it as I do its the English Kent/London Romany spelling my ignorant friend, I feel sorry your racism is highlighted by your refusal to spell my race as most english sites will, as I said I am English Romany.

never forgive and never forget

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
your ignorance of my culture is highlighted by this post

http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/southeast/series6/gypsy_travels.shtml

The BBC spells it as I do its the English Kent/London Romany spelling my ignorant friend, I feel sorry your racism is highlighted by your refusal to spell my race as most english sites will, as I said I am English Romany.

Do you also feel sorry for the racism of the people who authored the very page you yourself used as reference?

Spelling aside, even though I brought it up, you're still not answering my question. What do you want the people of Germany to do as reparations for the presecution of the gypsies?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Do you also feel sorry for the racism of the people who authored the very page you yourself used as reference?

Spelling aside, even though I brought it up, you're still not answering my question. What do you want the people of Germany to do as reparations for the presecution of the gypsies?

Stop saying it wasn't Evil and admit it was

Originally posted by Colossus21
never forgive and never forget

That's the reason the world is how it is.

-AC

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Stop saying it wasn't Evil and admit it was

Stop mis-spelling it!

*for everyone else: I hope you all realize I'm distracting him with this spelling crap...because this thread is such shit, that it deserves to be derailed.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
That's the reason the world is how it is.

-AC

then it should be that way....

I suggest suicide.....no there's no joke, I suggest it.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I suggest suicide.....no there's no joke, I suggest it.

-AC

then go ahead ...and tell me how it is

There is no excuse for what the nazis did, none. And you have a right to hate those evil people from then, and be pissed off and ignoramuses who don't realise thier atrocities commited of now. That's your God given right. Not as a gypsy, not as a German, but as a human being.

Ofcourse if you ask me stupid people are worse then evil people. But that's an entirely differant issue..

THANK GOD! Spelljammer is here to share his profound insight on talking out of his ass!

Before you start running your mouth, go and read teh holocaust thread, and you'll see this guy is making shit up.