Galactic Empire = German Empire?

Started by darthvader_fan4 pages

there was talk that episode III was based off the war in vietnam and i dont know were they come up with this sh~t

I don't think that's what was said.

Originally posted by Tangible God
Why is this always a subject, can noone just see the Galactic Empire for what it is...a piece of fiction.

An evil Empire spanning an entire galaxy ruled over by oppressive and powerful Sith made for a very good story.

If it's so bothersome then what would George Lucas use instead of said Empire? A Fanclub that won't lets members leave without a swirly?

There's only SO many types of helmets you can use that have an impressive style to them. The type that comes to the ears is one. Maybe it's just coincedence.

Coincidence? U obviously have not heard of the literary terms 'allusion' and 'satire'. Credible writers do not produce their stories out of nowhere.

Oh yeah..i agree on what's said that the helmets got "offsprings" thru the american helmets in the gulf and the recent iraq war..look familiar don't they? Haha.. (the pic below of the US troops, it reminds me of Empire Strikes Back!)

Yes Tolkien did maintained till his death that it wasn't based on WWI isn't it..wonder why..Oh but i din noe The Hobbit was written in the trenches..cool!

yeah the pic..

The german empire was worse then the galactic empire. There was nothing like the holocost in Star wars where it was directed against a race. There did not seem to have anything to do with racism. Germany was worse because of that

Originally posted by darthvader_fan
there was talk that episode III was based off the war in vietnam and i dont know were they come up with this sh~t

Actually, I heard that the rescue of the Jedi from the Geonosis Arena was based off many operations in Vietnam. The Clone Gunships that floated down and wasted many Seperatist droids do bare an uncanny resemblance to the air support of U.S. helicopters rescuing and supporting American soilders in a hot-zone that have been out-numbered and over-whelmed by Viet Cong.

Re: Galactic Empire = German Empire?

Originally posted by Cybervader
Correct me if i'm wrong, i saw a star wars documentary where it said that Episode IV was released during the heat of the vietnam war

NOT

EVEN

CLOSE.

The "heat" of 'Nam was 1967-71. The ground war ended in '73 and the war ended in '75.

war is all the same, perhaps thats the reason for the similarities

Originally posted by Tangible God

There's only SO many types of helmets you can use that have an impressive style to them. The type that comes to the ears is one. Maybe it's just coincedence.

though i did hear that the Nazi helmet inspired the look of Vader's

Originally posted by JediRobin23
The german empire was worse then the galactic empire. There was nothing like the holocost in Star wars where it was directed against a race. There did not seem to have anything to do with racism. Germany was worse because of that

What?! Ahem... deathstar
And...notice how aliens were never allowed in the Empire?

Then of course there's some EU about how the wookies were enslaved.

Originally posted by Echuu

Then of course there's some EU about how the wookies were enslaved.

there enslavement began where Kashyyyk left off in ROTS

Originally posted by JediRobin23
The german empire was worse then the galactic empire. There was nothing like the holocost in Star wars where it was directed against a race. There did not seem to have anything to do with racism. Germany was worse because of that

What the hell - the German Empire was distinguished at the end of WWI you idiot! The German Empire did not commit the holocaust! And bloody hell - the Germans were one of the 'nicer' Empires of there day, all they done was stir up trouble with the French...

And the Galactic Empire is a representation of all Empires - but of course it carries certain garments that appear similar and certain names...

And can you please not keep saying that the Lord of the Rings is based on WW2, it is not, although there are similarities yes, but Tolkien himself said it was not....

The whole idea of the empire and the troopers was probably based loosely on the German empire, that's it, it's not some hidden message.

One problem though, SuperShadow always says this, I don't know if it's confirmed anywhere else, but I think so!

You cant say its loosely based just on the German Empire - were Stormtroopers part of the German Empire? No! - they came about 20 years afterwards when the Nazi's came along...and that 'kaiser', spiked, helmet has been used by many different european nations...

Re: Re: Galactic Empire = German Empire?

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
NOT

EVEN

CLOSE.

The "heat" of 'Nam was 1967-71. The ground war ended in '73 and the war ended in '75.

Wokay..so it was not the heat..it was more of the aftermath..still the idea had appeal to the masses though..haha.

So it seems that many are disputing the empire the Galactic Empire was based on..Some said it was more of a fusion of real empires plus lucas own input..That's why this thread states "German Empire?"..notice the question mark..Hmm so what other empires could fit the bill? i remembered somebody said the British Empire..interesting.. but how so?

Because of the mass slavery and so forth - probably the huge independance on Naval (Starship) power... but most of the Empires were roughyl the same and there were few that stood out from the pack - Britain did so becuase it was the most dominant and wealthy...

Originally posted by exanda kane
What the hell - the German Empire was distinguished at the end of WWI you idiot! The German Empire did not commit the holocaust! And bloody hell - the Germans were one of the 'nicer' Empires of there day, all they done was stir up trouble with the French...

And the Galactic Empire is a representation of all Empires - but of course it carries certain garments that appear similar and certain names...

And can you please not keep saying that the Lord of the Rings is based on WW2, it is not, although there are similarities yes, but Tolkien himself said it was not....

Ur right. There's a difference between the German empire and the third reich. But um.........they did kinda start ww1. And what do you Americans got against the French?

Originally posted by Da preacher
Ur right. There's a difference between the German empire and the third reich. But um.........they did kinda start ww1. And what do you Americans got against the French?
I thought the Austrian-Hungarian Empire started WWI, with the shooting of Ferdinand. The Entente declared wasr on them for it, and as A-H's ally, Germany had to join in against the Entente.

Originally posted by Da preacher
Ur right. There's a difference between the German empire and the third reich. But um.........they did kinda start ww1. And what do you Americans got against the French?

Excuse me!
Please read the little bit next to my name which says "Location: Great Britain" - of which then it'll become clear that previously my 'kingdom' if you will,had been at war with the french for a few centuries - but I'd like to say that I have no quarrel with the French blah blah ...

And please read up on what started WWI and the Creation of Nazism...
The Gemans did not start WWI they were dragged into it as were most other countries and also realise that the Germans did not suddenly declare that they hated Jews and that they were victims of a very clever yet rather twisted plan, master-minded by a man called Adolf Hitler...

Back on topic - although no one has agreed or disagreed with me (although people did mention this before) that the Galactic Empire is a representation of all Empire's with bits of Lucas's own ideas shoved in...