Spider-man vs. Shatterstar

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Spider-man vs. Shatterstar

💃 Shatterstar is a complete acrobat. No doubt about it.
Professor Xavier's success story as far as danger room training of mutants go.
He is savage where Wolverine is berserker.
It is said that his skills in fighting are unmatched.
With his mutant power does he stand a chance against someone like Spider-man; who can land a 15 ton blow and web a nuclear explosion?
Of course Spider-man also has no invulnerability.
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Hmm, I think Spiderman takes this 8/10. Although if Shatterstar was written to the best of his ability, he'd make Spiderman's day hell.

Going on the Wolverine showing however, Shatterstar doesn't have the skills to take down Spiderman in my opinion.

What IS Shatterstar's mutant power?

Enhanced physical stats + ability to send shockwaves through his swords I believe.

yah it is. well i say Spider-Man.

Oh, I forgot...Shatterstar has a healing factor too.

Originally posted by nimrod009
Oh, I forgot...Shatterstar has a healing factor too.

Who hasn't.

Shatterstar will only give Spider-Man trouble if Spider-Man underestimates Shatterstar (like he tends to do a lot of times with new enemies). In that case, I can see Shatterstar kicking Spider-Man's ass (a bit).

In ANY other scenario, Spider-Man crushes him.

(Does anybody actually like Shatterstar ? Maybe it's me, but he's so boring...)

The biggest advantage that Spidey has is his senses, other then that he would be toast. Combat experience is way in Shatterstars favor and if he figured out Spidey movement he is toast, hell he stabbed Juggernaut in the eye.

Originally posted by ThePittman
The biggest advantage that Spidey has is his senses, other then that he would be toast. Combat experience is way in Shatterstars favor and if he figured out Spidey movement he is toast, hell he stabbed Juggernaut in the eye.

- How can you figure out Spider-Mans movement 😕 ? Spider-Mans reactions are based on reflexes, agility and instinct.

- Stabbing Juggernaut in the eye is no big deal. Juggie is even slower than Thanos 😆

- "Combat experience is way in Shatterstars favor ?" Are you kidding ? I know he's this kind of rebel/warrior, but you have to search a while to find a character with half the experience of Spider-Man.

Originally posted by who?-kid
- How can you figure out Spider-Mans movement 😕 ? Spider-Mans reactions are based on reflexes, agility and instinct.

- Stabbing Juggernaut in the eye is no big deal. Juggie is even slower than Thanos 😆

- "Combat experience is way in Shatterstars favor ?" Are you kidding ? I know he's this kind of rebel/warrior, but you have to search a while to find a character with half the experience of Spider-Man.

How can he predict Spidey movements? Well for one he grew up fighting for his life in Mojoworld combat arena and is probably one of the most skilled sword fighters in MU. That is part of sword fighting is predicting your opponents movements. He fakes to the left and cuts to the right, he realizes that Spidey does the same movement when he strikes a certain way and changes his style at the last second. Remember it’s not impossible to hit Spidey just dam hard.

Yes it’s easy to hit Juggernaut but not to hurt him and get past his shielding.

Originally posted by ThePittman
How can he predict Spidey movements? Well for one he grew up fighting for his life in Mojoworld combat arena and is probably one of the most skilled sword fighters in MU. That is part of sword fighting is predicting your opponents movements. He fakes to the left and cuts to the right, he realizes that Spidey does the same movement when he strikes a certain way and changes his style at the last second. Remember it’s not impossible to hit Spidey just dam hard.

Yes it’s easy to hit Juggernaut but not to hurt him and get past his shielding.

Yea, but the thing is, as soon as Shatterstar changes his style at the last second, Spidey can literally change his once more before any contact takes place. He is leagues faster than SS. Whatever last-second preparations SS decides to enact become completely null and void and are easily countered by whatever last thing Spidey decides to do. Spidey has no style to counter really anyway. It's all based on instincts and such. He could strike SS the same way and even in the same spot from a plethora of different locations, leaving SS with no options at all.

Oh yea, and the Spider-sense and all. No little tricks up SS's sleeve will prove useful here, since Spidey will have already known about it and countered it.

Damn I remember when Shatterstar first came out he became my favorite comic book character I thought he was tight as hell.But nether now are then would I ever think he could take Spider-man.Plus Spider-man now has his upgrade so SS dose not stand a chance.

What? Spider-Man webbed a nuclear explosion?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
What? Spider-Man webbed a nuclear explosion?

He did thats pretty impressive, must have been borrowing wolverines fanboy powers 😛

Spider-man wins.

Shatterstar get tooled by everyone, I'd feel bad for him if he wasn't such a lame character

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Yea, but the thing is, as soon as Shatterstar changes his style at the last second, Spidey can literally change his once more before any contact takes place. He is leagues faster than SS. Whatever last-second preparations SS decides to enact become completely null and void and are easily countered by whatever last thing Spidey decides to do. Spidey has no style to counter really anyway. It's all based on instincts and such. He could strike SS the same way and even in the same spot from a plethora of different locations, leaving SS with no options at all.

Oh yea, and the Spider-sense and all. No little tricks up SS's sleeve will prove useful here, since Spidey will have already known about it and countered it.

I don’t think you understand the meaning of combat tactics, yes Spidey has wonderful reflexes and can act on a dime but SS has fought the likes of Longshot. Just because Spidey can move doesn’t mean he can’t be hit. Example is that he jumps over on slice and while in midair SS cuts up, granted Spidey knows its coming but can’t do anything about it because he can’t fly. Spidey’s senses only alerts him that danger is coming and from a general direction but no the exact type of danger.

Even though he responds to attacks by instincts and reaction he still has a style of fighting just like everyone else and he is not really trained in the martial arts and different fighting styles but relies on his speed and strength so he does have very predictable moves. SS fought all of his life in Mojoworld’s arena and some of the weirdest things that you can think of and powers to boot and still alive and kicking to tell about it so Spidey jumping around shouldn’t be too much of a problem.

Now I’m not saying that this would be easy for SS at all and I would give Spidey 6/10 but it’s not a walk in the park by any means. I just hate that people don’t give the credit for combat experience and tactics enough credit. Throughout history weaker opponents have beaten stronger ones just because they had better strategies or experience.

Spidey's reflexes, strength, Spider-Sense, webbing, and experience all lead him to victory 9/10.

Originally posted by who?-kid
- - Stabbing Juggernaut in the eye is no big deal. Juggie is even slower than Thanos 😆
Who says thanos is slow?

Originally posted by ThePittman
I don’t think you understand the meaning of combat tactics, yes Spidey has wonderful reflexes and can act on a dime but SS has fought the likes of Longshot. Just because Spidey can move doesn’t mean he can’t be hit. Example is that he jumps over on slice and while in midair SS cuts up, granted Spidey knows its coming but can’t do anything about it because he can’t fly. Spidey’s senses only alerts him that danger is coming and from a general direction but no the exact type of danger.

Even though he responds to attacks by instincts and reaction he still has a style of fighting just like everyone else and he is not really trained in the martial arts and different fighting styles but relies on his speed and strength so he does have very predictable moves. SS fought all of his life in Mojoworld’s arena and some of the weirdest things that you can think of and powers to boot and still alive and kicking to tell about it so Spidey jumping around shouldn’t be too much of a problem.

Now I’m not saying that this would be easy for SS at all and I would give Spidey 6/10 but it’s not a walk in the park by any means. I just hate that people don’t give the credit for combat experience and tactics enough credit. Throughout history weaker opponents have beaten stronger ones just because they had better strategies or experience.

I believe you are misconstruing my response, my friend. I never once said that combat experience and tactics don't amount to anything. In fact, I'd say that Shatterstar could win the majority of fights against many other street-level characters. But, the fact is, Spider-Man is just too powerful for someone like SS to pose a threat. He exceeds him in every physical category, as well as being much smarter and much more resourceful than SS.

And, just to clear things up, Spider-Man's spider sense actually does alert of him of the exact attack coming his way. It's been shown in the comics over and over again. It lets him know what the attack is, where it's coming from, and where it would make contact if he were to not move. I'm at work now, but I have scans of such at home. But think about it. If he didn't know anything about the attack coming his way, how would be able to judge things the way that he does. Using your logic, a fist coming for his face from a super-strong foe coming for his face would produce the same reaction as if a fully-loaded semi is heading straight for his face as well. But, as I'm sure you know, you need two completely different moves to counter/avoid the two different threats, don't you? Yes, yes you do.

Just think about that one for awhile. Spider-Man wins 9/10.