Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Koala Meatpie, DeanoOld Testament is not a person or preacher per se. I am a preacher (although I am not considered full-time clergy) and I have never told you to do as I say or you shall burn in fiery pits of hell. Hell was not even created for people. Hell was originally intended (and still is) for the devil and his angels (Matthew 25:41). But spirits that separate from their dead bodies must go somewhere. If a person does not accept God's free gift of salvation then that person has chosen willfully to go to a place devoid of God--that place is Hell. You see if you don't want to be in filial relationship with God as your Heavenly Father then in essence you want to remain separated from him in the life to come. Again, there is no other place for departed spirits to go excpet hell. Too logical for you? There's Heaven (God's abode and the home of departed spirits who in this life confessed Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior). Then there's life here and now (the home of people who are not dead yet; their spirits have not separated from their bodies yet). Finally, there's Hell (the future home of the devil and his angels and anyone who rejects God's free gift of salvation). I have a hard time understanding why people blame God and get mad at God. If you don't want to go to Hell when you die, the decision is up to you. Accept God's free gift--go to Heaven; reject, spurn, mock, ridicule, and spit on God's love gift to you and you will find yourself in torment when you die. Don't blame God, it was your choice to go there because you had a way of escape but you spit on it (figuratively) by rejecting God's plan of salvation--Jesus Christ. God loves you and sent His Son to save you, me, and rest of the world from our sins (John 3:16).
infinite love.....forever
What kind of 'intelligence' creates a natural world in which the survival of
one depends on tearing another to pieces? What sick mind would design a global life-cycle in which the participants were in a mode of constant fear - humans as well as the animals? Would a loving God do that?
have a read of this
What is the difference between the nuns at a Roman Catholic convent using fear and guilt to control the thinking of children and young people, and a rabbi or muslim cleric using the fear of hell and damnation and enormous family pressures to do the same? Answer: nothing. They are different aspects of the same state of mind, but they think they are different to the point where their dogmas come into physical conflict. They are all arrogant enough to claim they know the “will of God” and they claim to have been chosen to tell everyone what God insists they believe. Poor old God must have a production line turning out His different “wills”. Either that, or He (it’s always a “He”) has great difficulty making up His mind. God used to be indecisive, but now He’s not so sure. Are we really being asked to accept that some God is sitting on a cloud selecting his chosen people and then ordering them to control and manipulate everyone else? Indeed we are.
We can now go over “live” to heaven where God is about to announce
the panel’s verdict:
“OK, after much discussion and consideration of the various business plans, my angels and I have awarded the God Franchise (Earth Branch) to the Roman Catholics. My will is that the Pope should tell all people how to live their lives and that he and the Vatican should be controlled by the upper levels of the secret society network like the Freemasons and the Knights of Malta. If any Pope does not agree to this control, he should be murdered (as with Pope John Paul I in 1978). I also will that the Pope and the Roman Catholic Church should terrify little children to prepare them for a life of being told what to do and to ensure that they believe what the church wants them to believe. I will that an inquisition should be formed by said Pope to burn everyone he and his henchmen decide do not believe in every single word of my bible, the King James version of which has been documented to have 36,191 errors in translation alone. I will that my son, the Prince of Peace (also known quite wrongly as “Jesus”)1, should be nailed to a cross and sufferunbelievable pain so that the rest of humanity shall be able to kill and plunder each other while having their sins forgiven forever!
Oh, my God! Sorry, oh my Me! That doesn’t sound right. It’s not very Godly and I am God after all. Er, no, er I’ve changed my mind: My will now is that Jews are my chosen people, even though, contrary to worldwide indoctrination, there is no such thing as a Jewish “race”, just as there is no “Aryan” race, either. I will that the Jewish hierarchy should terrfiy their children to prepare them for a life of being told what to do and to ensure they conform to whatever the hierarchy tells them. This fear should be constantly applied throughout their lives. They should be made to fear terrorist attacks (for which their own hierarchy are often responsible) and made to believe that only by giving their minds and power away to the hierarchy will they be protected from their enemies. As I gave a strip of land to my chosen people thousands of years ago (or so the history books tell me, I don’t remember myself), I will that the Palestinian Arabs should be terrorised out of their homes, that their land be called Israel, and that some of the terrorists involved such as Ben-Gurion, Begin, Rabin, and Shamir, should later become prime ministers and display record-breaking hypocrisy by denouncing the terrorism of others. I thought about insisting that Jewish people be told that they can speak to me by putting little bits of paper into the cracks between the stones in the Wailing Wall, but no-one would ever believe that. To sum up, I will that the Jewish hierarchy are my chosen people and, as their book, the Talmud, says: ‘Just the Jews are humans, the non-Jews are no humans, but cattle”.
Oh my Me! That doesn’t sound right, either. It’s not very Godly and I am God after all. Er, no, er, I’ve changed my mind again:
This time I will that my real voice on Earth is the Muslim hierarchy and that they should terr([y their children to prepare them for a lfie of being told what to do and to ensure they conform to my rules. I told all this to a guy called Mohammed a long time ago and he was very good because he and his successors led a vast army of followers to kill and maim anyone who didn’t accept them as my representatives on Earth. I will that the religion called Islam created in my name should be used to keep the people in fear, guilt, and order while my hierarchy use the oil money for their own benefit and keep the rest of the people in servitude and poverty in the name of my religion. I will that women should not be able to show more than their eyes in public because, although I created the physical body, I am terribly ashamed of it. Ifurther will that men should always be in control and that women (one of my aberrations, oops!) should be forced to do as they are told.
Oh my Me! That doesn’t sound right, either. I’m terribly confused. I can’t decide. Let the people choose. Go on, fight for it. Blow the living daylights out of each other. Rape the planet.. .yeeesssss.. .go for it. Last one alive wins and sits at my right hand next to the Prince of Peace. Deal?”
A bit disturbing that isn’t it? Some confused God looking down, searching for His chosen ones by pulling straws and saying eeni-meenimini- mo? And telling everyone He’s on their side, so they slaughter each other in His name. Mind you, amid His confusion there is one common theme in “God’s” deliberations: frightening people to make them conform. It couldn’t just be, could it, that these variations on the same thought pattern have absolutely nothing to do with “God” and spirituality and everything to do with the desire of some humans to dictate the lives of all the rest? Oh yes it could. ’Twas always so throughout recorded history and ‘twill always be so until we take our power back by making our own decisions and moulding our own, individual, sense of reality. No-one is “born” a Christian, a Jew or a Muslim. People are conditioned to be Christians, Jews and Muslims after they are born. When we take on someone else’s beliefs, lock, stock and barrel, and especially when we need to be frightened into accepting them, we walk a very dark and dangerous road: for ourselves and forthe world.
But so few have learned this lesson of the centuries. We still believe too much and think too little. We “feel” intuitively even less. The rigidity and manipulation of “beliefs” (dogma and prejudice) is how we are controlled