Tourney Battle #5

Originally posted by K Von Doom
How exactly are you navigating better in a zero gravity enviroment? Webs and the grappling hook easily give me forward, diagonal, any directional movement, and you're saying Electro has a better sense of balance against the master of martial arts?
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Originally posted by long pig
But, unlike you, I am capable of doing such things in Zero G because of my levatation AND boosters control. You have nothing but web (Which will be melted) and spider touch (Which doesn't work while around electro).

You're guy is aimless like pollen.

the fact is, neither of your characters will have much control over movement here

KVD's guy is trying to use webs, Spider-Man has found (many times) that his webbing cannot cling to vibranium, SM 2099 sticks to things with his claws (unlike regular Spider-Man) so he wont be able to hold onto the walls.... the grapple hook wont actually "grapple" onto anything as the surfaces seem to be extremely smooth

LP's guy is trying to use boosters designed for flight within a gravity based environment..... all they will do in zero-g is propel you forwards with no control over movement, speed or your rotational axis, Electro has never used magnetism to levitate himself for flight (that I've seen anyway) and Ock's tentacles are in the same position as SM 2099 in that they can't hold onto any of the surfaces

when it comes to actually moving around in this environment.... well..... you're BOTH screwed

in fact you'll be lucky if your characters don't both just float there and throw up as the contents of their stomachs begin moving around freely

😘

good luck with that

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1. Everyone can decide how much "damage" the 'show his face' trick would do. A one-hit kill that KVD could just use to waltz through the tourney doesn't seem fair, but it would probably induce a decent amount of shock (pun intended) from the other person.

2. Ock's tentacles, if I'm not mistaken, are immune to magnetism. I don't want to side with anyone, but I'm just trying to clarify.

3. Some points about dealing with the anti-grav have been brought up. I honestly have no idea who would have the easier time moving around...but it should add some fun to the deabtes. The boxes will be floating around at least, so you could both push off those enough to somewhat control your directional movement.

Originally posted by long pig
Because it effects the mind via some way other than physically attacking it. 🙄 Would you consider Medusa's head a mind attack? Of course you would. It's like using hypnotism or telepathy, both are banned.

Durability feats are allowed. Mind attack feats aren't. Simple as that.

They've proved themselves enough for a iddy hit of your blast which you won't hit me with btw. Can hit me when you're crashing into walls and getting blindsided by boxes, you'll be hit by four high powered lasers, high powered electricity...yada yada yada you lose.

The difference from then and now is now, you don't have anything to help you fly. 🙁

Adamantium boxes? -raises hands- Yeah, they'll K.O you or most definitely distract you long enough for me to use my superior speed and locomotion to detach your head from your body.

Shocktopus is teh winnah!!

Again, taking off the mask is not a one hit kill.. it's an incapacitation (I don't remember it killing anyone).. it will leave you useless for the rest of the fight..all 2 seconds of it.. until I blast you again.. either way you'll die.....quick...

well again... going by the rules is hurting you more than helping.... you want to go strictly by the rules.. now it's apparent that you only want to go by the rules when you assumes they don't apply to you...

digi has already predefined the cap on what energy shields could or couldn't take.. they are only as strong as real earth metals are.. and that's all.... power stacking can easily overcome this....

by this same notion my shields battle arua can't be overcome either.. as the only thing that's proven to manage to over take a battle aura is someone else who can house more chi than their counterpart... shoctopus can't maniupulate chi, thus he can't get past the battle aura...

Your armor has taken punches when it was adamntium alloy... your armor was also turned into a titanium alloy for the purposes of this debate...thus claims on feats of the former armor are moot.. (for someone calling out moot points left and right you sure are doing a fine job of posting moot point after moot point yourself eh?).. the same alloy that ryu's literally punched holes into... neither your shields nor your suit can hold up to the damage my character is producing when following the rules...

Again you have to divide your concentartion.. if you're buisy trying to get yourself to stay afloat while supporting a shield while magnetizing something that can't be magnetized, WHILE attempting an in close conftrontation with me... you're simply spreading himself too thin, multitasking too much.. especially when all I'm doing is super hadokening your ass....

Originally posted by long pig
Because it effects the mind via some way other than physically attacking it. 🙄 Would you consider Medusa's head a mind attack? Of course you would.

Actually the whole medusa thing works on a physical reaction related to a mystical curse... kinda arguing against yourself

Originally posted by Scoobless
the fact is, neither of your characters will have much control over movement here.

There might be some truth to what Scoob is saying but of the six characters involved, Darkhawk is the only one with experience fighting in zero gravity. So, SW-2099 will have an easier time adjusting to the battle conditions due to his having already experienced it.

Originally posted by K Von Doom

Again, looking at the face induces a shock, it doesn't kill you instantly...

Originally posted by K Von Doom

THIS is what ended the fight... but in LP's case, a hadoken will end it.

Winner = SW-2099

Electro levetates in the new avengers I believe. He's done it enough to where it's in all his profiles. And, since my whole body is metal, I can levatate it even easier.

The boosters are there to get me out of the way of on coming attacks, small pulses is all you need.

I'm not screwed at all. I have the two biggest advantages. Speed mobility and environmental effects.

This fight is over. As it stands, your only offensive range capabilities consist of lasers which are easily blocked or dodged, and throwing magnetized boxes (which can't be magnetized anyway). Your coils, tentacles and electricity are effectively taken out of the equation because you can't reach me. And by the time you float your way over to me, you'll be unconscious from the bombardment you'd have received from force blasts, eye beams and fireballs. Ahh... the irony of Dr Shocktopus being shocked into not being able to mount an effective offense or defense.

your only offensive range capabilities consist of lasers which are easily blocked or dodged,

Dodge dodgedodgedodgedodge It's not happening. You don't have a Spider Sense to dodge, you don't have control over your movements to dodge, you don't have a way to steady yourself to attack.

and throwing magnetized boxes (which can't be magnetized anyway).

Your coils, tentacles and electricity are effectively taken out of the equation because you can't reach me.

you'd have received from force blasts, eye beams and fireballs.

I'm the only one here who can control their body AND fight in zero G.

I'm the only one who has any advantage.

Ahh... the irony of Dr Shocktopus being shocked into not being able to mount an effective offense or defense. [/B]

Except for the 20 or so that you refuse to listen to because you know they work.

I can hit you with boxes, lasers, electricity, arms, coils, blades I can attack up close or far away.

You just hope you can rely on one attack which won't happen anyway.

Originally posted by long pig
Electro levetates in the new avengers I believe. He's done it enough to where it's in all his profiles.

just had a look...... it seems he can (only difference is that it's electrostatic bridges, not magnetism.... but it should work either way)

"He can also create electrostatic bridges to traverse upon, at the cost of a great expenditure of energy"

http://www.alaph.com/spiderman/enemies/electro.html

i wasn't sure he could... he normally just uses power lines and stuff to travel

i vote for long pig becasue his argument and amalgam sound better

OR
I can juse levatate my metal body.

If electro can levatate a metal truck without strain, a 200lb body is no sweat.

Originally posted by DigiMark007

1. Vibranium would absorb the electricity for the purposes of this fight. I purposely added the vibranium (instead of just adamantium) so that it wouldn't be an easy win for LP. Simply charging up the environment shouldn't be a viable tactic...and I didn't want a massive advantage conferred to one person because of the location.

There you go, quote from Digimark about charging....

Originally posted by long pig
OR
I can juse levatate my metal body.

If electro can levatate a metal truck without strain, a 200lb body is no sweat.

yeah... but that charge would damage his circuitry

Just so ya know, making bridges doesn't tire Electro like it used to since he learned how to do it more precise.

Electro can ride lines of high electro-magnetic potential (such as power lines) with Monstrous ground speed (9 areas/round). He has recently demonstrated the ability to ride bridges of electricity that he himself creates, allowing him to fly in the same way that Iceman uses his ice-slides, at Excellent ground speed (5 areas each round). this mode of travel once exhausted Electro rapidly, but now he can travel in this manner for a half hour at a time (at 75 miles per hour) without tiring.

Originally posted by K Von Doom
There you go, quote from Digimark about charging....

He made it so I couldn't use the vibranium as a conduit to shock you, nothing about magnetizm.

Even if he makes it so, doesn't change the fact I have every advantage in this fight including strength and speed and control of mobility.

Another.

· True Flight - Electro now has the ability to make an electrical field around himself to propel him at air speeds of MN (75) air speed (30 areas per round, 450 mph/ 7.5mpm).
· Electrical Land Travel - Electro can ride lines of high electro-magnetical potential (power lines) at land speeds of MN (75) speed (9 areas per round, 135 mph/ 2.25 mpm).
· Electrical Field - This field surrounds Electro constantly with out Electro having to concentrate on it. The intensity can go as high as he can generate it, but this takes away energy he can use for other actions. In combat, Electro usually has it set to the minimum level of damage needed to keep everyone away, and any other range attacks from hitting him. He can turn it on and off at will, and can change it's intensity. The range on this power stunt is AM (50) on range column A.
· Electric Heat - Electro can generate heat from his electric energy at levels up to MN (75) intensity.
· Nueral Manipulation - Electro can manipulate all electricity now, and that includes brain pulses. He can cause AM (50) intensity damage from this form of attack.
· Machine Animation - Electro can animate machines at an UN (100) intensity rank power FEAT vs. the intensity of the machine's Tech rank. This is of a limited nature, and can not be used to do complex tasks.
· Disease Immunity - Using his power to manipulate his muscle tissue, Electro can use high amounts of electricity to "burn out" forms of disease. This ability can burn out almost any disease from his body, up to and including cancer.
Invulnerability - Cl1000 (1000) resistance to all forms of Electricity, and EX (20) resistance to all other forms of energy.

Sorry KVD your arguments are great but I am going with LP, I'll say this though I think the Darkhawk face bit is unfair 🙂

Originally posted by long pig
How do you suppose you can dodge so much win you're floating aimlessly?

Dodge dodgedodgedodgedodge It's not happening. You don't have a Spider Sense to dodge, you don't have control over your movements to dodge, you don't have a way to steady yourself to attack.

Unless it's retconned, USA Gent's vibranium shield got magnetized. These are vib and adamantium, they'll do even better.

I can reach you easily. You keep talking about this face you want to show me, but how else will i see it unless you come up to me less than a few feet? Yes, you have to do it up close and you'll be decapitated.

All of which will knock YOU off the small amount of balance you have. A fireball will push you back and throw you around further screwing you. A eye beam will do the same. You'll be totally discombomulated and dizzy.

I'm the only one here who can control their body AND fight in zero G.

I'm the only one who has any advantage.

Except for the 20 or so that you refuse to listen to because you know they work.

I can hit you with boxes, lasers, electricity, arms, coils, blades I can attack up close or far away.

You just hope you can rely on one attack which won't happen anyway.

Dodge AND Block. Easy.

Spiderman 2099 didn't need a spidersense to dodge 10 lasers coming right at him. And Spiderman 2099 is an untrained fighter. Ryu with his agility would have an easy time with just 4 lasers.

Already dealt with the charging thing ^^

How can you reach me easily, when you're *slowly* moving towards me. And while you're *slowly* moving towards me, you've just been fireballed.

Knock me off balance? Hehe yeah. Since Darkhawk has sooo little experience with zero gravity. Plus, I'm not going to be floating my way to the middle of the arena, I'm on my side of the battlefield, I'll be shooting and yes the shots will push me back, but because I'm backed against the wall and the floor, how is that unbalanced?

Nope and nope. You have little control and you'll be floating slowly.

You're only advantage would have been charging up the metal room but seeing as that has been taken away. You have zero advantage. I have the long range attack advantage... force blasts, eye beams and fireballs vs your lasers and boxes? Meh. Your tentacles aren't long enough, you admitted yourself that they're 20 meters, the room is 50 meters.

I win 😆 rather easily I might add.