Originally posted by long pig
I asked digi about it already.He said no flying but I can use it to argue against flailing in the wind helplessly. Unlike you.
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Plus, there's always those bridges...they are teh gay. Looks like he's riding yellow snow.
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"Abilities: Electro can propel himself along accompanying magnetic lines of force in objects that have great electric potential, such as high-tension electrical lines, at speeds of up to 140 miles per hour. He can also create electrostatic bridges to travel upon, [B] at the cost of a great expenditure of energy. [/B ]Electro can override any electrically-powered device and manipulate it with mental commands."
Creating an electrostatic bridge won't work in this environment because attempting it on a vibranium/adamantium floor will only result in your energy being absorbed. Waste your energy if you'd like, the bridge won't materialize and you'd have expended a lot of energy in a vain attempt. Tiring yourself out in that wasted effort makes you easy prey.
And in the hypothetical situation where you're able to create a bridge on the floor, you'd have to make a similar bridge to cover your sides and on top of you. Why? An electrostatic bridge is essentially a moving bridge. In regular situations, the electricity pushes Electro up off the ground, gravity keeps his weight down on the bridge. Once you make a bridge, without creating an opposing electrical force to push you down, it will result in you propelling yourself to the ceiling. And again, expending a lot of energy making you easy prey.
Great plan.
Here's the deal with Electro's "flight"
To use it strictly as flight is prohibted, but since we're in an anti-grav chamber technically it's all "flying." Scoob brought up the link saying Electro could maneuver himself with a great expenditure of energy. And while the vibranium would absorb any overt attempts to hover around the chamber forever, he could feasibly use bursts of this power to manuever around. This will drain him somewhat, as more energy than normal will be needed due to the vibranium, but it remains a viable, if somewhat limited, option.
Well, he can't fly, he has to exert a lot of energy just to maneuver around.
Still, my apologies KVD. The battle locations were chosen before drafting, so this wasn't intentional. I actually added the vibranium later to try to even it out some. But just look at it as a challenge...if 2099 can make it through this, it'll be all downhill from here.
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I actually added the vibranium later to try to even it out some.
Translated: "Long Pig owns SO hard that I had to change things to give KVD a chance."
Can't hear that enough.
Electro used to have to exert a lot of energy to maneuver around, he doesn't anymore.
Plus, I have booster propulsion I can use in extremely small bursts to give me added speed and maneuverability.
Plus, the metal body can be ionized (Why people think a suit being magnetically controlled will make it malfunction is beyond me. When Iron Man's suit was being controlled by Magneto, it didn't up and **** up.) and controlled by me. So, basically, I can move better here than normally with gravity.
This is like shooting dead fish in a barrel.
Originally posted by long pig
Plus, the metal body can be ionized (Why people think a suit being magnetically controlled will make it malfunction is beyond me. When Iron Man's suit was being controlled by Magneto, it didn't up and **** up.) and controlled by me. So, basically, I can move [b]better here than normally with gravity.[/B]
magneto doesn't put a massive electrostatic charge through things to levitate them.... but apparently it's all flight.... so it doesn't matter
lol... i really don't know who to vote for.... i just have this picture of two guys floating around, bumping into stuff and taking potshots at each other.... and when they take those shots they propel themselves even faster into the walls
it's like amalgamated pinball
lol
great setting for the fight
seriously though... it seems LP can move slightly better than KVD... but KVD's weaponry has auto-targeting... so he doesn't need to move as much
still can't decide
Originally posted by long pig
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[b] I actually added the vibranium later to try to even it out some.Translated: "Long Pig owns SO hard that I had to change things to give KVD a chance."
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Well, not really. Used to the fullest, the environment isn't a huge adavantage either way. The vibranium will absorb electricity, and make it hard for you to move using it...which means directing it at him is about your best option, and also means the boxes floating around can be used for cover. And Scoob mentioned KVD's auto-targeting. Properly argued, it's still pretty even.
...not trying to side with anyone...just didn't want LP using my words to make it seem like an adavantage for him
Originally posted by long pig
(Why people think a suit being magnetically controlled will make it malfunction is beyond me. When Iron Man's suit was being controlled by Magneto, it didn't up and **** up.)
Here goes...
If LP wants to levitate it takes up his energy to do so... as I explained before he's already multi-tasking like crazy. he's trying to direct his own body in a controlled movement, magnetize boxes that can't be magnetized, shoot me with lasers and electricity, while putting up a forcefield....
His amalgam can "own" all he wants, it doesn't change the fact that with fifteen minutes of prep where I can power up my chi.. all I have to do is unleash everything I've got into my first major attack using the chi and my power reserves.... he has to use some pretty decent concentration to even move.. so he has no other option than to get straight up blasted by my attack... especially since he already admitted that part of his strategy would be to move towards me to get close enough to kill with his coils and such.... he's such a stickler for rules? he wants to live strictly by them? fine, let him die by them too... again his shields CAN NOT hold up to what kind of power I'm about to nail him with... they just can't... he wants to talk about moot points.. well the fact of the matter is that A) his shields unless composed of chi themselves (which again, they are NOT) are not going to stop my super-hadoken due to the type of energy it is... thus all his I can absorb electricity is a moot point.. and B) any claims to having an indestructible shield are also moot as those are simply not allowed in this tourney.. if he wants to continue and argue in favor of his shields I reply with his: I also have shields.. hell, WITHOUT my shields IN CLASSIC DH ARMOR darkhawk was able to shrug off a barrage of class 100 hits... and he didn't do anything in return but talk to iron man when iron man was attempting to attack him head on..... thus nothing LP has in terms of brute force is going to do anything but annoy 2099... also in the new armor DH can put up an impenetrable shield of his own.... then add on the battle aura which has proven to blow everything in it's wake out of the way unless also composed of chi etc.. and the best LP can do at that point is get close enough to stab me with his swords as nothing else will get through those shields and such.. if he gets that close, it's time for some good ol webbing in his throat and he can say goodbye to oxygen....
if he goes by the rules his shields falter under the power of my first attack and he'll lose.... if he wants to debate otherwise, than I can meet him on his own grounds with my own shields and it comes down to a h2h... in terms of h2h ryu (BY HIMSELF) >>>>>>>>>>>anyone in lp's amalgam.....
I just super-hadoken him from the starting gates.. he dies........then follow it up with taking my helmet off and finishing him with webbing... (if he's still alive or conscious for some unknown reason)...... there's simply no logical reason this WOULDN'T work and he realistically needs to present a better debate as too why it wouldn't WHILE HE'S DOING SOOOOOO MANY THINGS AT ONCE... he has to either do one of two things at this point, effectively argue WHY he can take the initial blast even though the rules won't allow his shields to stand up to that kind of power.... ORRRRR he can submit that according to the rules, he's going to lose... ORRRRR he has to submit that his initial strategy was a horrible one and would lead to his downfall......
Again, if LP wants to argue levitation by means of a loophole, my battle aura takes care of that rather handily...
examples in Streetfighter of a fighter using chi to levitate are, of course, bison (some some extents) and akuma which everyone is well aware of...
However what's less known is that Ken as used his chi to levitate a large chunk of boulder to fight Akuma on.... if that's the case and LP's trying to seriously use levitation as an advantage... than I can just use my chi to do the same... it's quite well known that Ryu is head and shoulders above Ken in the chi department thus he should have utterly no problem doing the same...
i would also really stress to everyone that I AM going to be getting the first shot in... LP IS NOT going to dodge it, he IS NOT going to block it.. in fact all he really has a chance of doing is hoping for the best.... as my darkforce beam augmented by ryu chi boost IS CERTAINLY going to leave LP broken and /or crippled as soon as this fight takes off by means of a super hado ken...
what's left of his fried and battered body can simply be web yanked into all of those boxes and walls until he finally does lose consciousness...
After being hit by the super-hadoken his arms can be easily severed with my beams and no shields will be up at this point...as even IF his husk of remains is still breathing or awake , he should already be in a state of shock...
*another flaw to his argument is thus:
is all fine and good that he's going to be levitating, chuckin boxes, holding up his shields and attacking me in h2h at the same time..but LP has supported no reasons why or HOW he can do this before I blast the shit out of him courtesy of ONE BIGASS SUPERPOWERED HADOKEN...
*he has also commented about how he is going to attack me while his shields are protecting them.. I should ask him how the shield works and reference issues to look at... from the looks of things the shield is working like a bubble or something... if that's the case how is he going to attack me with his shield up when I'm outside the shield? it doesn't (or shouldn't work like that)... if that's the case and he can't attack me when his shields are up, then he tries to argue against my shields and how they should act in the same manner: the difference between my shield/battle aura and his shield is that A) darkhawk's shield (new armor) was designed to surround his entire body but ensure that he still retained his mobility... and B) Ryu's battle aura is an energy that's COMPLETELY the result of ryu himself it doesn't hinder him in anyway nor does it act like any shield made through scientific means...(is it cheap? maybe...but it's also true)
*finally he hasn't made yet ONE convincing argument how he's going to survive my initial attack AT ALL... his best attempt at such was that his shields can absorb your energies (which they can't.....gosh I wish I could "make up" powers for my amalgam too roll eyes (sarcastic)..) or that his shields are indestructible.. which they ARE NOT as provided through digi's rules..
earlier he tried to argue that my power stacking had to be explained cause of the rules allowing for one body... now according to the rules he should explain how he is going to survive a blast that can A) blast down titanium doors with ease on it's own and B) has been further augmented to farrrr more potent levels through means of chi manipulation...
(if he can't.... than he must admit that the only way he can win is through the conventions of CHEATING)... if he tries to argue that he'd attempt to dodge the blast or get out of it's way remember... he previously argued he was trying to come towards me to be able to hit me with his arms, coils, and swords.. and CONTINUED to argue that he would try and absorb the energy (i.e. just stand there and take it) before he knew what it really was.. and then PROVED that he really didn't know what kind of attack he was dealing with by an admittance to a search on the matter on google... so once again either he dies...or he has to admit to a flawed argument.