-=- Fate When We Are Born -=-

Originally posted by Echuu
Rather than act foolish you should read what I really said...

I said "NOT even the Pope is infallible." I know he isn't infallible and I was just pointing to the fault in the Catholic doctrine which says he is.

As for the parents thing I am just saying that just because someone knows something is going to happen doesn't mean they are causing it...infallible or not.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I read what you said. But neither of your analogies are relevant. Unless you're saying that the Christian god isn't meant to be infallible. Just because a person knows something is going to happen doesn't mean they are causing it, true. But if an entity is supposed to have (precognitive) omniscience and is supposed to be infallible, then existence of the entity in itself predestines future events.

ok ok here's where I need clarification. The fate issue is relevant and I pretty well agree. But when 'predestination' is mentioned I get wary because of a teaching called Calvinism. It says our souls are predestined to heaven or hell but that we have no control AT ALL of where we go.
Now I do have control over my soul. I could renounce my faith right now and kill myself if I wanted to or I could stay the course like I am doing now.
And Calvinism teaches against that. So from that point I disagree with you but from the point that we are 'destined' to do certain things I agree mostly.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I read what you said. But neither of your analogies are relevant. Unless you're saying that the Christian god isn't meant to be infallible. Just because a person knows something is going to happen doesn't mean they are causing it, true. But if an entity is supposed to have (precognitive) omniscience and is supposed to be infallible, then existence of the entity in itself predestines future events.

your not up to your old twisting what people say tricks are you X 🙄