drizz vs blade sword fight

Right. Back home now, so time for another essay-like post 😛

First of all i'm gonna ask you Orestes to address the points i make the way i do.

I'm going to post like this:

1. xxxx
2. xxx
etc. etc. and it'd save much time and trouble if you could reply to my points in the same manner

1. yyyy
2. yyy

Anyway.......here we go:

1. Infravision: In the novels, Drizzt as all drow has Infravision. What this means is that he can see in the infrared spectrum, detecting heat signatures and such. Darkness poses no problem to him.

2. Weapons:

- Icingdeath

The hilt of the scimitar is of black adamantite and the blade is made of silver with a diamond edge. The weapon absorbs fire and heat, protecting its wielder against fire.

- Twinkle

Twinkle is Drizzt's defensive scimitar. Not only does Drizzt have incredible skills in battle, but the magic imbued in this Scimitar makes it even harder to land a strike on him. Forged by elves, Twinkle has a star-cut sapphire on its pommel and it glows blue when danger is near.

3. Combat strategies/knowledge:

Drizzt fights in the two long-weapon style common among drow warriors. He was trained by his father, Zaknafein, the best weapons master in Menzoberranzan and then, officially at Melee-Magthere, the Menzoberranyr school for warriors, and later, again by Zaknafein (or Zak as he was sometimes known) who helped him to hone his skills further. It was Zaknafein who taught Drizzt the movements to transcend the basics of the drow martial art, to think creatively about any fight. His technique was more about training one's muscles to respond, quickly and in perfect harmony, to the calls of the mind, and more importantly, to the calls of the imagination. He taught that improvisation, not rote responses, was what separated a warrior from a weapons master. Drizzt then surpassed his father, becoming the best fighter in Menzoberranzan.

Often, if Drizzt enters combat with an opponent he has to fight but isn't confident he can easily defeat he calls upon his innate Drow abilities to conjure up a globe of magical darkness that effectively blinds both himself and his opponent. He then begins to go into a self-imposed trance where, through a mixture of sheer skill, concentration and luck he often gains the upper hand, parrying enemy blades and making attacks that find holes in his opponent's defences that they, not used to fighting blind cannot possibly see coming. (hope you read this part, seeing as it's pretty important, stating how the globes are INNATE)

4. The Hunter:

I remembered about this when Dreampanther mentioned it. He doesn't go into a barbarian-like rage.....this is much worse.

Twice in his life, Drizzt had regressed into a bestial and instinctive state of mind in which he was identified as the Hunter. The first time this happened was after Drizzt had fled from Menzoberranzan and was living in the wilds of the Underdark. The second time was during the war with King Obould Many Arrows and his horde of orcs. Drizzt had thought Bruenor dead, and wasn't certain if his other friends were alive. When Drizzt is the Hunter, he reaches his physical apex, his skills honed to their utmost peak. His scimitars are like extensions of his own arms, and his senses are heightened beyond their normal capacity.

5. Speed and Agility:

His agility and fighting prowess are legendary, and many have described his movements as too fast to follow with the eye, drow or human.
(granted, this is from Wikipedia, but the quote actually exists.....it was stated in Sojourn i believe...)

6. History and feats:

As a child, Drizzt displayed amazing reflexes and coordination. Consequently, Zaknafein was able to persuade Malice that Drizzt should become a warrior, instead of replacing Nalfein as the house wizard. Thus, at the age of sixteen, Drizzt began his weapons training. (Zaknafein convinced Malice when he told Drizzt to put 5 coins on each hand, 10 in total, and toss them all in the air at the same time. he caught them all before they touched the ground).

At twenty years of age, he went to Melee-Magthere, Menzoberranzan's warrior academy, where he excelled in his studies despite his resistance to the attempted brainwashing by the masters of the academy. When it was clear that there were none in Drizzt's class who could beat him, the masters of the academy matched him against students three years above him. Drizzt defeated that class easily. His time at the academy would have been spotless (by Drow standards) except for the graduation ceremony, where he disgraced himself by refusing to take part in an orgy, refusing the advances of two high priestesses, one of them his sister, and damning Lolth. Although he thought that no one noticed because they themselves were too "distracted" by the ceremony, therefore he still graduated with honors.

(notice him being better than any other fighter in the entire city. And before you say "It's just a city", it'd be the equivalent of a small country.....and it's THE most powerful city in the Underdark)

After leaving Menzo, he stayed in the Underdark, was attacked by Mind Flayers (psionic beings), was enslaved, fought them, won.
He then fought Zaknafein again (Zaknafein being the best warrior in Menzo after Drizzt) and won. Zak was undead (sic) and enhanced, even though mind controlled.

In the Icewind Dale Trilogy, after having befriended the dwarves, his favorite sport was HUNTING DOWN YETI AND GIANTS....i mean seriously.......

When the barbarian tribes threatened to attack the Ten Towns, Drizzt faced their leader, the most powerful barbarian there himself, and won (the wounds included a stab to the stomach and a slash across the abdomen).

Later, Drizzt together with Wulfgar (still young and unexperienced Wulfgar) took out an entire lair of giants.....in one go.

The next order of businness was Drizzt and Wulfgar travelling to find Ingeloakastimizilian, a Wyrm dragon (almost most powerful). Toegther they killed the dragon, and that's how Drizzt found Icingdeath.

Please don't tell me Blade is better than a Wyrm Dragon 🙄

What happened next you ask? Well, the wizard Akar Kessel posessed by the power of the crystal shard Crenshinibon summoned a balor (just so you know, Balors are the most powerful demons out there. As in angels crap their pants and run when they see one. yes.....BALOR....please don't tell me Blade is better than a damn Balor 🙄 ).
Drizzt, sensing the demon Errtu, and recognizing the balor from his days in Menzoberannzan, called the demon and faced it alone with Guenhwyvar. After a battle, and the aid of the fire-banishing properties of the scimitar Icingdeath, he managed to defeat the demon, banishing it to the abyss for one hundred years.

After this, Drizzt follows Akar Kessel to the Crystal Tower, where he has to go through Akar's own personal army of orcs and goblins to reach him. he does exactly that.

In The Thousand Orcs, Drizzt faces orcs, goblins and drow, and wins....I think i posted the pic in the last post eh?

7. Conclusions:

While Drizzt may be a trite character, a selling character, a commercial item, R. A. Salvatore has incredible writing skills. And Drizzt has the feats to match (obviously).
After reading about these feats (there are more but i'm too lazy), how can anyone say "He's just a drow, Blade is superhuman" ?

ps:

This guy:

is NOT this guy:

~wickerman~

While I wouldn't say that strengh "counts for squat," part of the point of being a very skilled fighter is so that you can beat less skilled opponents even if they have physical advantages. Having superior skill entails knowing how to overcome your opponent's advantages.

If Blade can get his hands on Drizzt, the Drow is in real trouble. Short of that I envision him being sliced to ribbons. A couple of precise cuts to key tendons...

Originally posted by Laminator_X
While I wouldn't say that strengh "counts for squat," part of the point of being a very skilled fighter is so that you can beat less skilled opponents even if they have physical advantages. Having superior skill entails knowing how to overcome your opponent's advantages.

If Blade can get his [b]hands on Drizzt, the Drow is in real trouble. Short of that I envision him being sliced to ribbons. A couple of precise cuts to key tendons... [/B]

The moment Blade's hands reach Drizzt's neck, or any other part of his body, he won't HAVE any hands 😂

That being said, i agree with your point. This is like saying Cap. America should lose to anyone stronger than him .......

~wickerman~

Wow, you know, I haven't actually read Drizzt in years, but after your awesome description, Wickerman, I can't wait to get home and dig them up again!

Good job, my man!

Originally posted by Dreampanther
Wow, you know, I haven't actually read Drizzt in years, but after your awesome description, Wickerman, I can't wait to get home and dig them up again!

Good job, my man!

No problem 👆 I've been in hundreds of RP's, and after seeing people try to copy Salvatore's ranger drow over and over and over and over again, i became fed up with it. But after cooling down, i always remember i love both Salvatore's and Cunningham's writings 👆

I was actually once going to pit Asmodeus vs. Mephisto from Marvel, but the stats given to Asmodeus in the book of vile darkness are disgustingly low. If we go by the books, he's at least as strong as Mephistopheles from Marvel.

I think it was in "Elminster in Hell" that Mystra, the Goddess of Magic threw an incredibly powerful spell at him and he just brushed it off, then turned the skies of the 9 layers of hell into blood 😈

~wickerman~

To Orestes:

One of my favourite quotes from Scrubs, the first series, where the maintenance guy took out the wimpy lead character and he walks off sulking:

"Hey, where are you going? Stay and play! Stay and play!"

Look, I am just teasing you, but here is a serious question: How many of the Drizzt books did you read? And where did you pick up your admiration/ information regarding Blade? From the Wesley Snipes movies?

Because, don't misunderstand me, I loved Blade, the first movie (the only thing that made Blade 3 worthwhile for me was Ryan Reynolds, as for Blade 2, some of the fighting scenes were kinda cool, I like most of Wesley Snipes' action movies) but while initially the idea of pitting Blade against Drizzt must have seemed like a great inspiration, by now, putting everything in perspective, you must admit, that Blade is just a teeny-weeny bit outclassed.

Don't you agree?

And there is no shame in admitting defeat against Drizzt. Demons, wizards, dark gods, dragons, giants, all have had to kneel before Drizzt (usually to look for their heads).

Originally posted by Dreampanther
To Orestes:

One of my favourite quotes from Scrubs, the first series, where the maintenance guy took out the wimpy lead character and he walks off sulking:

"Hey, where are you going? Stay and play! Stay and play!"

Look, I am just teasing you, but here is a serious question: How many of the Drizzt books did you read? And where did you pick up your admiration/ information regarding Blade? From the Wesley Snipes movies?

Because, don't misunderstand me, I loved Blade, the first movie (the only thing that made Blade 3 worthwhile for me was Ryan Reynolds, as for Blade 2, some of the fighting scenes were kinda cool, I like most of Wesley Snipes' action movies) but while initially the idea of pitting Blade against Drizzt must have seemed like a great inspiration, by now, putting everything in perspective, you must admit, that Blade is just a teeny-weeny bit outclassed.

Don't you agree?

And there is no shame in admitting defeat against Drizzt. Demons, wizards, dark gods, dragons, giants, all have had to kneel before Drizzt (usually to look for their heads).

Very well put man 👆

I'd just like to say that i never got to see Trinity, because
1. i was in the middle of exams when it came out
2. My download programs crashed......

But i saw the first two movies, and liked them. Especially the fight scenes in the 2nd movie. I like the character blade, and everything. Only time i felt like he was getting the short end of the stick was in the spiderman cartoon in the 90's. Bleh.... 😘

Anyway, rant mode off 😛

~wickerman~

1. Infravision: In the novels, Drizzt as all drow has Infravision. What this means is that he can see in the infrared spectrum, detecting heat signatures and such. Darkness poses no problem to him.

Irrelevant. And just to restate it, even though I know you vaguely allude to it yourself later: Drizzt's infravision does not work on his own magical darkness.

2. Weapons:

- Icingdeath

The hilt of the scimitar is of black adamantite and the blade is made of silver with a diamond edge. The weapon absorbs fire and heat, protecting its wielder against fire.

- Twinkle

Twinkle is Drizzt's defensive scimitar. Not only does Drizzt have incredible skills in battle, but the magic imbued in this Scimitar makes it even harder to land a strike on him. Forged by elves, Twinkle has a star-cut sapphire on its pommel and it glows blue when danger is near.

Yeah, I already knew he had a couple of swords.

3. Combat strategies/knowledge:

Drizzt fights in the two long-weapon style common among drow warriors. He was trained by his father, Zaknafein, the best weapons master in Menzoberranzan and then

Irrelevant. I've already read all about this myself anyway, so none of it is news to me. Who trained him and how great he was in a given city means nothing as far as this fight is concerned and is little more than a smokescreen.

Often, if Drizzt enters combat with an opponent he has to fight but isn't confident he can easily defeat he calls upon his innate Drow abilities to conjure up a globe of magical darkness that effectively blinds both himself and his opponent. He then begins to go into a self-imposed trance where, through a mixture of sheer skill, concentration and luck he often gains the upper hand, parrying enemy blades and making attacks that find holes in his opponent's defences that they, not used to fighting blind cannot possibly see coming. (hope you read this part, seeing as it's pretty important, stating how the globes are INNATE)

It is either a swordfight only, or it is not a swordfight only. You can't have your cake and then eat it, too. Declaring that it's a swordfight only just to get Blade to not use his other weapons, then saying, "Oh but Drizzt can use his magical darkness because THAT weapon is innate!" is ridiculous.

Aside from that, Drizzt is trained to fight in the dark, yes, but he's not the only person who has ever learned how. For all we know, Blade may know that, too. But it shouldn't matter anyway because this is a SWORDS. ONLY. FIGHT.

4. The Hunter:

I remembered about this when Dreampanther mentioned it. He doesn't go into a barbarian-like rage.....this is much worse.

No actually, it's a first-level barbarian rage. 4 Strength, 4 Constitution, -2 AC, etc. I have his writeup. 😉 Would you care for me to post it, just to prove my point?

It's not bad, but it isn't even enough to push his strength up to a level sufficient to be remotely close to equal to Blade's. It is, however, an excellent illustration of how important a strength boost can be in a fight, so thanks for that. 😉

5. Speed and Agility:

His agility and fighting prowess are legendary, and many have described his movements as too fast to follow with the eye, drow or human.
(granted, this is from Wikipedia, but the quote actually exists.....it was stated in Sojourn i believe...)

People have said the same thing about many real-life fighters. The difference is that -- once again -- unlike real-life fighters and also unlike Drizzt, Blade is at a level of speed sufficient to react to and sidestep a bullet on open ground after it is fired.

6. History and feats:

As a child, Drizzt displayed amazing reflexes and coordination. Consequently, Zaknafein was able to persuade Malice that Drizzt should become a warrior, instead of replacing Nalfein as the house wizard. Thus, at the age of sixteen, Drizzt began his weapons training. (Zaknafein convinced Malice when he told Drizzt to put 5 coins on each hand, 10 in total, and toss them all in the air at the same time. he caught them all before they touched the ground).

And Blade sent that whole collection of needles flying at Deacon all while he was still in mid-leap. The difference is that wasn't even a high feat for Blade, and it isn't even something that really stands out in your mind 'till you really stop to try to remember it. It was casual. Effortless. Other than the coin trick, this is just a history lesson. 🙄 It's also meaningless because I already know this history, and it's further irrelevant to the discussion. But it's great if you're hoping to draw attention away from the raw facts.

where he disgraced himself by refusing to take part in an orgy, refusing the advances of two high priestesses, one of them his sister, and damning Lolth.

Other than the part about how he did great in school, what is this even DOING here? What does it have to do with his ability as a swordfighter?? Yes, I've read Homeland as well, thanks. 😛

(notice him being better than any other fighter in the entire city. And before you say "It's just a city", it'd be the equivalent of a small country.....and it's THE most powerful city in the Underdark)

Menzoberran, metropolis -- population, 32,000. I prefer to stick to hard data, thanks. 😉

After leaving Menzo, he stayed in the Underdark, was attacked by Mind Flayers (psionic beings), was enslaved, fought them, won.

With outside help. They punked him out BADLY at first and nearly beat him even with help. This was NOT his finest hour. I read that book, thanks.

He then fought Zaknafein again (Zaknafein being the best warrior in Menzo after Drizzt) and won. Zak was undead (sic) and enhanced, even though mind controlled.

He also DID NOT WANT to kill Drizzt, and it later was made apparent that that was the case. Drizzt figured out Zak was still in there somewhere and got him to take over by leaving himself open to attack. Drizzt did not actually beat -- AND COULD NOT HAVE BEATEN -- the undead Zaknafein. That was made clear as well.

In the Icewind Dale Trilogy, after having befriended the dwarves, his favorite sport was HUNTING DOWN YETI AND GIANTS....i mean seriously.......

Not as impressive as it sounds, actually. Any exceptional character can do it. If Blade's world had yeti and giants, he'd be killing them, too. They're really not THAT powerful overall -- powerful compared to the average person, but so what??

When the barbarian tribes threatened to attack the Ten Towns, Drizzt faced their leader, the most powerful barbarian there himself, and won (the wounds included a stab to the stomach and a slash across the abdomen).

Irrelevant.

Later, Drizzt together with Wulfgar (still young and unexperienced Wulfgar) took out an entire lair of giants.....in one go.

Talking about this is like me talking about Blade taking out an entire lair of vampires. With the exception of the small fact that vampires are more powerful than giants -- especially Blade vampires -- it would be relevant ... how?

Please don't tell me Blade is better than a Wyrm Dragon 🙄

Actually, yeah, I think he could solo it. If Drizzt is fast enough, God knows he is.

What happened next you ask?

No, I really don't. Because you haven't addressed the issue of comparative power at all. Really stop and think ... compare how you're arguing this fight to how every other fight on this forum is argued. Whenever ANYone says "Wolverine beat so-and-so" or "Elektra killed that guy," they ALWAYS go out of their way to explain why beating this person or that person was significant, if people wouldn't automatically know. Moreover, they probably at least try to show why "the other guy" couldn't have done it, too.

You've got Drizzt winning this battle and Drizzt winning that battle, but you really haven't proven that those battles were all that impressive compared to what Blade could achieve (and has achieved). You certainly haven't proven Blade couldn't have done them as well. You haven't proven ANYthing. All you've done is give a summary of the history of a character.

So in conclusion, I'd try further to respond to your argument, but you haven't really, well ... made one.

i think blade would take his sword and take drizz temperature with it. say ahh! maybe he wont do it orally now thats not a pretty picture

I think drizz winns this he just as fast as blade and he deffently a beter fighter. plus we all know even if blade did start winning bruenor would cleave blades head off

Drizzt. He is faster and way more experienced.

Well first of all, thanks for using numbers like I asked 🙄

Irrelevant. And just to restate it, even though I know you vaguely allude to it yourself later: Drizzt's infravision does not work on his own magical darkness.

Stating his abilities, something you haven?t even done. All you?ve done so far has been give examples from the movies. Are you even aware of the comic book Blade? I wonder?.

Yeah, I already knew he had a couple of swords.

😆 Come on buddy, you?re embarrassing yourself?seriously though??if you?re going to ignore their magical aspect, you?re making an excellent point at proving how ignorant you are

Irrelevant. I've already read all about this myself anyway, so none of it is news to me. Who trained him and how great he was in a given city means nothing as far as this fight is concerned and is little more than a smokescreen.

Who trained him is irrelevant how? When you?re trained by Farmer Joe who?s got beef with vampires and has a crappy accent in comparison with the best skilled fighter in an entire city of fighters, I?d say it?s quite relevant

It is either a swordfight only, or it is not a swordfight only. You can't have your cake and then eat it, too. Declaring that it's a swordfight only just to get Blade to not use his other weapons, then saying, "Oh but Drizzt can use his magical darkness because THAT weapon is innate!" is ridiculous.

Aside from that, Drizzt is trained to fight in the dark, yes, but he's not the only person who has ever learned how. For all we know, Blade may know that, too. But it shouldn't matter anyway because this is a SWORDS. ONLY. FIGHT.

You?re funnier than I expected. Which part of innate don?t you understand? Fine, Drizzt doesn?t get the globes of darkness, Blade doesn?t get his healing factor. What? That?s innate, but hey, we don?t wanna take innate abilities into consideration??so I suppose Blade should be a normal human then eh?

You just keep insisting it?s a swords only fight don?t you? How many sword fights have you seen where one doesn?t use his innate abilities to the fullest? Not too many I assure you. As for Blade training to fight in complete darkness (darkness that he himself doesn?t see through), I?d like some proof of that. I?m not saying it doesn?t exist, I?d just like to see some.

No actually, it's a first-level barbarian rage. 4 Strength, 4 Constitution, -2 AC, etc. I have his writeup. Would you care for me to post it, just to prove my point?

It's not bad, but it isn't even enough to push his strength up to a level sufficient to be remotely close to equal to Blade's. It is, however, an excellent illustration of how important a strength boost can be in a fight, so thanks for that.

Contradicting yourself again? 😆 Wow?..you CAN carry a debate all by yourself?.you?ll just keep contradicting yourself 😂
No??you insisted on not using stats, seeing as how Blade?s different from DnD. So I put up the FEATS. Not the stats which were made for a handbook. Also, if you know your DnD you?ll know those aren?t canon while the books are considered canon. Therefore, your point is moot. The things he was able to do while being the hunter surpass a barbarian rage, but for game purposes, they changed that.

And no?..i?m really not proving how important a strength boost can be in a fight, because ALL his features were maxed out. Ya see, normally his incredible speed and agility are his main weapon. Far greater than his Strength. When he went into the Hunter mode, they got even moreso powerful. Therefore?..my point is that a boost in all domains, strength included, yeah, is great.

People have said the same thing about many real-life fighters. The difference is that -- once again -- unlike real-life fighters and also unlike Drizzt, Blade is at a level of speed sufficient to react to and sidestep a bullet on open ground after it is fired.

Actually blade did no such thing. Deacon frost did. And it was while he was STARING at Blade, so noticing him even SLIGHTLY moving his hand is time enough to dodge. Your point is moot. Funny thing is in the movies (which you love to use obviously) I?ve never seen Blade move so fast that you can?t see his hands moving??and in the books Drizzt is stated to move so fast that you can?t see his hands move?..hmmmm??how interesting eh?

And Blade sent that whole collection of needles flying at Deacon all while he was still in mid-leap. The difference is that wasn't even a high feat for Blade, and it isn't even something that really stands out in your mind 'till you really stop to try to remember it. It was casual. Effortless. Other than the coin trick, this is just a history lesson. It's also meaningless because I already know this history, and it's further irrelevant to the discussion. But it's great if you're hoping to draw attention away from the raw facts.

raw facts? Like the ones that you haven?t posted about Blade?

Actually, he WASN?T in mid-leap. He jumped, caught the needles in his hand, landed, tossed them into the air and just swung at them. Look again. That was a move any martial arts master can reproduce. Not something to be proud of, I agree 😬 . Not really superhumany like 😂
As for Drizzt being able to do something like that at that age?..i think it?s quite relevant. But if you don?t see that, then, well?..ignorance is bliss

Other than the part about how he did great in school, what is this even DOING here? What does it have to do with his ability as a swordfighter?? Yes, I've read Homeland as well, thanks.

Actually, I just felt like typing in something about orgies?? 😖hifty: ??

Menzoberran, metropolis -- population, 32,000. I prefer to stick to hard data, thanks.

Your point being? You do realize population number is not the only thing defining a small country?s strength right? Or are you presuming I meant in terms of numbers?
Especially not when it comes to drow

With outside help. They punked him out BADLY at first and nearly beat him even with help. This was NOT his finest hour. I read that book, thanks.

Did he or did he come out winning out of a lair of psionic beings that the entire Underdark (and most of the surface world) is afraid of? How many times has Whistler bailed Blade out of crap hmmm? I doubt one can count that high.

He also DID NOT WANT to kill Drizzt, and it later was made apparent that that was the case. Drizzt figured out Zak was still in there somewhere and got him to take over by leaving himself open to attack. Drizzt did not actually beat -- AND COULD NOT HAVE BEATEN -- the undead Zaknafein. That was made clear as well.

Show me where it was made clear that he couldn?t beat the undead Zaknafein? Eh? It?s true that Zak was trying to hold back but didn?t really show it, reason why Drizzt was fighting him in the first place. Only at the end of the fight did Zak start to hold back and then killed himself. Drizzt was by no means losing my friend

Not as impressive as it sounds, actually. Any exceptional character can do it. If Blade's world had yeti and giants, he'd be killing them, too. They're really not THAT powerful overall -- powerful compared to the average person, but so what??

You know, I haven?t yet seen ONE single solid argument for Blade. I give fact after fact and all you say is ?Blade could do this too?. That?s quite belittling for the ?superhuman? blade to ?just be able? to keep up with a pathetic little drow
And I really doubt Blade would be taking down Yeti and giants. Give me feats to prove me otherwise.

Irrelevant.

Of COURSE it is 🙄 Because it?s Drizzt beating someone a LOT stronger than he is. But wait?Blade?.nah?..logic has nothing to do with it

Talking about this is like me talking about Blade taking out an entire lair of vampires. With the exception of the small fact that vampires are more powerful than giants -- especially Blade vampires -- it would be relevant ... how?

And with the exception that the Blade vampires died if you pricked them with a silver needle. They burst into flames and died. Hell?..given the amount of garlic Bruenor eats, I?d say he breathes and kills a lair of Blade vampires. Not impressive in the least bit. And Blade vampires stronger than Giants? lol right?..and please don?t give me the mutant vampires example from Blade 2 where he used UV?..cause it?s just cheap. Also, since you like to say ?Blade could do it?, Drizzt could?ve done anything Blade does only faster. If you would?ve read instead of said ?Irrelevant? where I presented the weapons, you?d notice Icingdeath is imbued with silver

Actually, yeah, I think he could solo it. If Drizzt is fast enough, God knows he is.

😆 You have no idea what you?re saying do you? 😆 Either that, or you just smoked some really REALLY good stuff. Seriously now?..you just said Blade can solo a Wyrm Dragon??. ??.Man??I can?t stop laughing?..

No, I really don't. Because you haven't addressed the issue of comparative power at all. Really stop and think ... compare how you're arguing this fight to how every other fight on this forum is argued. Whenever ANYone says "Wolverine beat so-and-so" or "Elektra killed that guy," they ALWAYS go out of their way to explain why beating this person or that person was significant, if people wouldn't automatically know. Moreover, they probably at least try to show why "the other guy" couldn't have done it, too.

You've got Drizzt winning this battle and Drizzt winning that battle, but you really haven't proven that those battles were all that impressive compared to what Blade could achieve (and has achieved). You certainly haven't proven Blade couldn't have done them as well. You haven't proven ANYthing. All you've done is give a summary of the history of a character.

If you think that was all just a history lesson, it just goes to prove how well you?ve read into my post?.which is close to zilch.
And I don?t HAVE to prove ANYTHING. I?ve spoken his feats. You have spoken of a few crappy feats from the movie series, that were absolutely pathetic. YOU haven?t proven why Blade would be able to do the things Drizzt has. You also haven?t presented enough Blade feats. You also haven?t addressed all of my points. You also haven?t given any sort of scenario. You also haven?t properly refuted a LOT of my points. And anyone can see that?..

~wickerman~

Menzoberran, metropolis -- population, 32,000. I prefer to stick to hard data, thanks.

We Finns were able to fight for five years against Soviet Union in the Winter War...

There was 180,000 of us in the army...and 450,000 of them.

Finland remains independent country still...and there is no Soviet Union anymore.

It's not numbers that matter.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
We Finns were able to fight for five years against Soviet Union in the Winter War...

There was 180,000 of us in the army...and 450,000 of them.

Finland remains independent country still...and there is no Soviet Union anymore.

It's not numbers that matter.

Finland rocks droolio
And yeah.....back in my WW2 studying days i was like "Woah.....dude.....awesome" . 😉

Hey DC, didn't you make that Wolverine vs. Forgotten Realms characters thread?

~wickerman~

Hehe....a good duscussion. Drizzt is used to improvising (it's what sets him apart from many other drow elves) so Blade's martial arts probably wouldn't give him much trouble.

Drizzt's most recent fight was with an orc-god-empowered orc by the name of Obould. The dude was easily Class 10, maybe more (F. Realms doesn't quantify strengths). And nearly as fast as Drizzt to boot. Drizzt changed his fighting style, got a bunch of hits in, and wasn't able to kill the dude but definitely got the better of the fight. He's no stranger to locking baldes with someone much stronger than him.

No one is arguing that if Blade wraps a hand around him, he's done. But between globes of darkness, his agility, and his skill, I'd say Drizzt is about as hard to touch as Spider-Man (that's right, I went there). No he's not as strong or durable, but he's built around speed and elusiveness. That would be enough to get him past Blade more often than not.

Again Wicker seems to have everything covered concerning everyones favorite drow.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Hehe....a good duscussion. Drizzt is used to improvising (it's what sets him apart from many other drow elves) so Blade's martial arts probably wouldn't give him much trouble.

Drizzt's most recent fight was with an orc-god-empowered orc by the name of Obould. The dude was easily Class 10, maybe more (F. Realms doesn't quantify strengths). And nearly as fast as Drizzt to boot. Drizzt changed his fighting style, got a bunch of hits in, and wasn't able to kill the dude but definitely got the better of the fight. He's no stranger to locking baldes with someone much stronger than him.

No one is arguing that if Blade wraps a hand around him, he's done. But between globes of darkness, his agility, and his skill, I'd say Drizzt is about as hard to touch as Spider-Man (that's right, I went there). No he's not as strong or durable, but he's built around speed and elusiveness. That would be enough to get him past Blade more often than not.

Absolutely correct. You're saying what i also said that was completely ignored by Orestes:

Originally posted by Wickerman

3. [b]Combat strategies/knowledge:

Drizzt fights in the two long-weapon style common among drow warriors. He was trained by his father, Zaknafein, the best weapons master in Menzoberranzan and then, officially at Melee-Magthere, the Menzoberranyr school for warriors, and later, again by Zaknafein (or Zak as he was sometimes known) who helped him to hone his skills further. It was Zaknafein who taught Drizzt the movements to transcend the basics of the drow martial art, to think creatively about any fight. His technique was more about training one's muscles to respond, quickly and in perfect harmony, to the calls of the mind, and more importantly, to the calls of the imagination. He taught that improvisation, not rote responses, was what separated a warrior from a weapons master. Drizzt then surpassed his father, becoming the best fighter in Menzoberranzan.

Often, if Drizzt enters combat with an opponent he has to fight but isn't confident he can easily defeat he calls upon his innate Drow abilities to conjure up a globe of magical darkness that effectively blinds both himself and his opponent. He then begins to go into a self-imposed trance where, through a mixture of sheer skill, concentration and luck he often gains the upper hand, parrying enemy blades and making attacks that find holes in his opponent's defences that they, not used to fighting blind cannot possibly see coming. (hope you read this part, seeing as it's pretty important, stating how the globes are INNATE)
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[COLOR=deeppink]He actually FOUGHT Obould???? In the lone drow or where? I don't remember that happening.....Woah.....must've been pretty awesome droolio

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Magic_attack
Again Wicker seems to have everything covered concerning everyones favorite dorw.

Actually Drow is derived from the elven word Dhaerow which means traitor 😉

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Wickerman
Actually Drow is derived from the elven word Dhaerow which means traitor 😉

~wickerman~

I knew that. 😉