Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Between pages 7-8 of this particular thread, I posted some of my better scans of Cap taking out Rhino and Thunderball (from Wrecking Crew) with fists, wrestling and throwing aside Namor toe-to-toe, and taking out an Ultron bot and a Sentinel singlehandedly.I don't have much better than that because I don't have most of my Cap comics here, but here's a two page spread of Cap taking out one of the Kree's Starforce members named Ultimus with a shield throw during 'Operation: Galactic Storm.' As you can see, Ultimus is going toe-to-toe with Hercules, so he's gotta be quite strong... BTW, Cap recovers from that dastardly sneak attack pretty quickly for all us patriots out there. Blasted Kree! 😉
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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Secondly, he is no damn slouch with his shield. People say Colossus scan catch it or rip it out of his hands. Possibly, but that isn't guaranteed, not even for Namor, and they're standing toe to toe here:
Is that during WWII? I don't own that comic...I want to own all comics with Namor and I would be appreciated if you could give the issue number to me. 😄
Anyway, if it is during WWII, Namor really was not at his full height strength. When he grew in age, is strength also grew. Nonethless, quite a good feat, he was not at low classes even at those years.
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Originally posted by cybermaster
dude colossus cannot lift over a 100 tons please. somone needs to take there pills here. his limit is about 80 tons or so. y do u think colossus gets his ass kicked from hulk and juggy ? hello there alot stronger cause there class 100 not damn colossus
Dude. Go pick up a comic or something. Colossus has been in Class 100 for some time now. The reason Hulk and Juggernaut beat him is cuz, well, Hulk's strength increases as the fight continues, and Juggernaut is just plain invulnerable/stronger than Colossus (limitless strength and all). And yet, Colossus has fared better against Juggernaut of all people than Thing ever has. Just an observation.
This fight really shouldn't be up for debate. Colossus curbstomps him. Literally, if he wants to.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Why in the world would you post all that stuff about Ultimate Colossus? The fool got beat........ by Falcon. Nuff' said.
That has been pissing me off so much since I saw that.
APPARENTLY, Ult. Colossus' eyes are not transformed into the same metal that the rest of his body is. They remain organic. Which is how Falcon was able to take advantage of the situation the way he did.
What makes no sense, however, is the fact that Ult. Colossus has:
1. Dove to the BOTTOM OF THE OCEAN, all the way to the ocean floor, with his eyes open. If they were organic, they would've been destroyed under the pressure.
2. Withstood a very close-range nuke. Had his eyes been organic, they would've melted in his skull no matter if he closed them or not.
Basically, what I'm trying to say is that is the biggest pile of bull I've ever seen a comic introduce. It was one of the worst plot devices I've seen to give Falcon of all people the win in their "fight". Bah.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Not yet jrod. Namor has potential. I think Reed was just making his head bigger.
Well Reed did say that the machine was meant to hold the most powerful meta-human on the planet. Im thinking its buit to hold Colossus, Thing, Thor or Hulk.
I dont think Reed would endanger Sue and the others if he knew it couldnt hold Namor.
Well this why Cap can beat Collosus.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok I think Namor can clearly beat Cap almost every single time, but surely Cap can at least get two wins. Look at the scans below.http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/2299/captainamerica36514od1.jpg
Its seems to me in the above scan. Cap actually KOed Namor. Namor wasnt moving so he probably was KOed. Yeah he was mindcontrolled but my point is that Cap does have the capability to KO Namor. Namor was just not fighting at full ability.
http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=141ta.jpg
Namor was stunned so badly by Caps kick that Namor landed on his back. Namor has class 100 durability and superhuman reflexes but still end up on his back. Sure it didnt knock him out but still it implies that Cap could KO him.
http://img286.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav3048142ve.jpg
http://img286.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav3048157yg.jpgOne punch from Cap puts Namor on his back and he gets up rubbing his head. Well I cant read Namors mind maybe it hurt a little bit, maybe it hurt alot, but when somebody is usually punched to the ground and gets up rubbing their head it usually indicates that the punch was powerful.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I don't think he was rubbing his head because of Captain America's hits, he was rubbing his head because he was just mind-controlled and tried to figure out wtf just had happened.
Do you know that for sure though because people still rub there heads when they get hurt and they could rub their heads when they feel strane. The other two examples as well indicate that Cap is skillful enough to hurt Namor.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Namor is supposed to be class 100....can you see where im going with this.
That has nothing to do with his durability.
Collossus is solid metal. Hitting him is a huge strech from hitting Namor. Pete also lacks organs (and presumably nerves) in his metal form so specialized strikes that can take down someone like Namor or Taskmaster or who ever are useless agaist Colossus.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Collossus is solid metal. Hitting him is a huge strech from hitting Namor. Pete also lacks organs (and presumably nerves) in his metal form so specialized strikes that can take down someone like Namor or Taskmaster or who ever are useless agaist Colossus.
Where does it categorically state that Collosus doesnt have organs or nerves? He has eyes and ears therefore he should have metal organs and eyes. So this just means his organs and nerves are more durable.
Alfheim...Not all Class 100 characters are equal to each other. Namor is class 100- but he still feels pain. Colossus in metal form doesn't feel pain- at least 616 Colossus- that isn't true about Ultimate Colossus...
Cap can KO Namor, Cap can KO Cage- since they still have pressure points on their bodies and are able to feel pain...which can be used by skilled fighters and it wouldn't be PIS. Cap doesn't have any radar senses or scanners to search for "flaws", neither he has an ability of instinctively affecting pressure points. He's not Karnak or Mantis... He's great but he's simply unable of that.
