Originally posted by Rick/Genis
No. His stupid fans aren't. The other fans... the ones you probably just don't know about because they're not idiots... are quiet and just READ the comics as opposed to saying he can beat galactus.
I know.
Us quiet fans don't need to scream that he pwns LT, because we know he does 131
Originally posted by Newjak
WolverineEven though Superman gets kind of special treatment with all his feats
Wolverine is by the far the most hated guy on the board. He just does so many things he shouldn't be able to do.
no. sorry dude, but i hate that... when anyone else does similar stuff to supes, like gl or surfer, there's no argument, but suddenly with supes there's cause for doubt...
i don't buy it... 😬
Originally posted by pr1983Not true because in every single Superman debate I've ever seen apparently the low feats of the other characters like Silver Surfer or Green Lantern are in play but Superman apparently can have no low feat.
no. sorry dude, but i hate that... when anyone else does similar stuff to supes, like gl or surfer, there's no argument, but suddenly with supes there's cause for doubt...i don't buy it... 😬
It happens every time with him and the people that debate for him. 😛
Originally posted by Newjak
Not true because in every single Superman debate I've ever seen apparently the low feats of the other characters like Silver Surfer or Green Lantern are in play but Superman apparently can have no low feat.It happens every time with him and the people that debate for him. 😛
are you serious? silver surfer and gl have high feats, there's no denying that, maybe superman just has more?
edit: (sorry for the late edit) almost every high feat by superman is scrutinised constantly in debates, the only person who gets more is wolverine.
very few reasonable people would deny surfer, hal, kyle etc their high feats...
Originally posted by pr1983
are you serious? silver surfer and gl have high feats, there's no denying that, maybe superman just has more?
He's saying that Superman's defenders will bring up the low feats of the Lanterns or the Surfer or whoever he is facing, while completely ignoring the presence of Kal-El's own low showings. They'll brush them off as "inadmissible," while spamming Clark's opponents' low showings as if they were the norm.
Not saying that I agree. Just trying to clarify, as you seemed to misunderstand.
Originally posted by SoljerExactly 😛
He's saying that Superman's defenders will bring up the low feats of the Lanterns or the Surfer or whoever he is facing, while completely ignoring the presence of Kal-El's own low showings. They'll brush them off as "inadmissible," while spamming Clark's opponents' low showings as if they were the norm.Not saying that I agree. Just trying to clarify, as you seemed to misunderstand.
Originally posted by Soljer
He's saying that Superman's defenders will bring up the low feats of the Lanterns or the Surfer or whoever he is facing, while completely ignoring the presence of Kal-El's own low showings. They'll brush them off as "inadmissible," while spamming Clark's opponents' low showings as if they were the norm.Not saying that I agree. Just trying to clarify, as you seemed to misunderstand.
i didn't misunderstand... what i'm saying is that, in general, people are alot more willing to accept high showings from the others on face value than they are superman's, even though in alot of cases they're just as valid...
when it comes to low showings, i'd agree...
yes there are fanboys, i doubt anyone would disagree with that, but i think i'm right in what i'm saying... 😬
Originally posted by pr1983Really I would think people are more willing to except high showings from Superman. I mean apparently you have the S-Shield on your chest and anything and everything becomes doable. He can beat Darksied why because he is Superman. He can beat Doomsday why because he is Superman.
i didn't misunderstand... what i'm saying is that, in general, people are alot more willing to accept high showings from the others on face value than they are superman's, even though in alot of cases they're just as valid...when it comes to low showings, i'd agree...
yes there are fanboys, i doubt anyone would disagree with that, but i think i'm right in what i'm saying... 😬
I think high end feats for someone like Silver Surfer are generally less accepted then Superman's.
And in debates only high end showings are taken into account when using Superman. Apparently Magic, Res Sun, and K-Nite really do not effect Superman because of a few choice showings despite the rest of his history with the stuff.
Originally posted by Newjak
Really I would think people are more willing to except high showings from Superman. I mean apparently you have the S-Shield on your chest and anything and everything becomes doable. He can beat Darksied why because he is Superman. He can beat Doomsday why because he is Superman.
its that 'he can do anything' presumption that makes people hate him... 😬
the only people who think he can beat darkseid are fanboys and jeph loeb...
tell me why he cant beat doomsday though...
I think high end feats for someone like Silver Surfer are generally less accepted then Superman's.
i disagree... 😬 i think its more the case that superman just has more showings to be honest... even post crisis...
And in debates only high end showings are taken into account when using Superman. Apparently Magic, Res Sun, and K-Nite really do not effect Superman because of a few choice showings despite the rest of his history with the stuff.
no, its not that at all... i'm not saying you in particular dude, so if i get ranty, its not aimed at you in particular. there just seems to be this huge perception that magic, kryptonite and red sun radiation are just these magical 'off switches' that just immediately remove his powers, and thats just not true (except in smallville, but that doesnt count). How much they weaken him is very much based on their concentration and proximity to superman, its a gradual thing...