Thing vs. Cyclops

Originally posted by long pig
That's not NEARLY as funny as mentioning Thing fought Champion.

I don't think Tony here actually read it, otherwise he'd know Champ beat the holy hell out of Thing to the point where Thing could no longer defend himself. He then let Thing win after refusing to kill Thing.

But, by all accounts, Thing got raped.

Hater...

The reason that people bring in the fight with The Champion is because The Champion is supposed to be the greatest fighter to have ever lived with thousands of years of traveling throughout every civilization and taking on that planets champions. And when he came to earth he took out every other hero in a extremely quick fashion (HULK went HULK shredded his his gloves and dove at The Champion and he vanished him from the ring... THOR threw his hammer at him he stopped the hammer in mid flight and then realized that THOR needed his hammer to stay THOR and sent him away too.) with his combo of fighting skills and his earth moving strength.

Nobody else could last more than a couple seconds (Wonderman, Namor, Sassy, Colossus, Doc Sampson) all got taken out because they're fighting skills aren't anything special and or didn't have the balls to continue.

They all got either knocked out or they just quit because they couldn't take the beating anymore.

Ben went round after round with The Champion he had his jaw broken and still went round after round and during the contest he shattered The Champions ribs with a body blow.

They were both beaten up badly. Ben was bleeding and bruised and broken and The Champion was bleeding and bruised and broken also.

The Champion called the fight because he didn't feel that the fight may ever end because Ben would never quit and he said that he had never had such a battle and said that if the earth could spawn such a complete competitor and fighter as Ben that the earth deserved to continue existence.

Whether or not you will ever admit it The THING is the total package Strength, Fighting skills, Determination, Smarts, and Competitive nature, and the never say die attitude.

There is a reason that THOR said of any mortal he has ever known, fought with or against with he would take Ben at his side over them all. Because he does have all those traits.

Smaxxer: Caps knowledge about fighting and tactics and how to be a field general is 1000x what Cyclops is. Cyclops isn't even in the same breath.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
The reason that people bring in the fight with The Champion is because The Champion is supposed to be the greatest fighter to have ever lived with thousands of years of traveling throughout every civilization and taking on that planets champions.

And when he came to earth he took out every other hero in a extremely quick fashion (HULK went HULK shredded his his gloves and dove at The Champion and he vanished him from the ring... THOR threw his hammer at him he stopped the hammer in mid flight and then realized that THOR needed his hammer to stay THOR and sent him away too.) with his combo of fighting skills and his earth moving strength.

Nobody else could last more than a couple seconds (Wonderman, Namor, Sassy, Colossus, Doc Sampson) all got taken out because they're fighting skills aren't anything special and or didn't have the balls to continue.

The Champion called the fight because he didn't feel that the fight may ever end because Ben would never quit and

There is a reason that THOR said of any mortal he has ever known, fought with or against with he would take Ben at his side over them all. Because he does have all those traits.

Smaxxer: Caps knowledge about fighting and tactics and how to be a field general is 1000x what Cyclops is. Cyclops isn't even in the same breath.

Cyclops is a notch below Cap? Are u serious? Thats some crazy sh!t. Oh well...like I said, Cyclops has lead the X-Men...Thing has lead the FF. Both are quite impressive in their leader abilities. Thing is written as a pretty good strategist, all one has to do is actually read an issue of FF. He's not a dumb brute, he's actually pretty good with technology and is one of the greatest astronauts on Marvel Earth, and maybe the best pilot in the MU. Like, Tony said, he was a very decorated soldier and fighter before he ever became the Thing, hence his relationship with Nick Fury. A good example of his use of strategy would be him fighting his way out of the Avengers mansion. Could Cyclops fight off the whole Avengers? Im not concerened whether or not Colossus was knocked back by Cyclop's blast, Thing has shown he's much better at taking concussive force than Colossus...and he has taken Cyclop's blast in the past and seemed about as concerned as if he was just hit with a water balloon.

Thing gets his head taken off.

Cyclops 10/10

I really don't know the extent of things durability, but if cyc takes that visor off and goes all out, thing is in some serious trouble...so far i say 6/10 cyc...

Originally posted by Wynndar
and he has taken Cyclop's blast in the past and seemed about as concerned as if he was just hit with a water balloon.

Sounds like Wolverine not being knocked down by Namor's punch. . .

What would you call someone who championed "Wolverine took Namor's punch like it was nothing!"?

Well in the X-Men world Cyke's blast is really respected. But even when someone more powerful, like Blastaar beats the hell out of Thing, he still managed to come back and crush him.

Originally posted by Wynndar
Cyclops is a notch below Cap? Are u serious?

Thats some crazy sh!t. Oh well...like I said, Cyclops has lead the X-Men...Thing has lead the FF.

A good example of his use of strategy would be him fighting his way out of the Avengers mansion.

And big deal, Spider-Man has broken in the Avengers Mansion AND the FF head quarters plenty of times. And Cyclops has taken out the X-Men on his own. So ?

Could Cyclops fight off the whole Avengers?

Im not concerened whether or not Colossus was knocked back by Cyclop's blast, Thing has shown he's much better at taking concussive force than Colossus...

(Just to avoid misunderstandings: I really like Thing, he's great.)

Originally posted by long pig
Thing gets his head taken off.

Cyclops 10/10

Thing has way more heart that Cyclops. Cyclops always says that heart wins battles. So Thing wins.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Thing has way more heart that Cyclops. Cyclops always says that heart wins battles. So Thing wins.

...When has Cyclops said that? Seriously?

Heart can only go so far when you're getting pummeled and decapitated by an optic blast.

Everyone knows heart wins all battles. Just like Gambit. And Harry Potter.

Originally posted by Smaxxer

I'm pretty sure Colossus durability (organic STEEL) is higher than that of Things (organic ROCK).

Thing isnt made of Organic Rock. His skin simply looks like rock. Its much more complex than Colossus' skin.

Thing isnt getting decapitated by anything Cyclops can produce. Thing's taken shots from dozens of more powerful people than the mutant crimefighter.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Thing has way more heart that Cyclops. Cyclops always says that heart wins battles. So Thing wins.

Sarcasm? 😛

Originally posted by Wynndar
Thing isnt made of Organic Rock. His skin simply looks like rock. Its much more complex than Colossus' skin.

Thing isnt getting decapitated by anything Cyclops can produce. Thing's taken shots from dozens of more powerful people than the mutant crimefighter.

Complex how?

Uh... Colossus isn't made out of steel either, it resembles steel so they call it organic steel. I've noticed this "she/he's just a mutant crimefighter" "stick to being a mutant crimefighter" thing used whenever opinion favours an X-Man over a member of the FF...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Uh... Colossus isn't made out of steel either, it resembles steel so they call it organic steel. I've noticed this "she/he's just a mutant crimefighter" "stick to being a mutant crimefighter" thing used whenever opinion favours an X-Man over a member of the FF...

I see what u mean... seeing as that 'mutant crime fighter' has hurt onslaught... 😖

The complexity of Thing's body is even beyond Richards at this time. In F4 vol3 Thing's body started to retaliate for the fact that he could turn back and forth from Ben Grimm and the Thing. His body produced an army of thousands of "evil Things" that Reed had to banish along with the true Thing, to another dimension. Eventually, with the help of hundreds of other Reed Richards from other timelines, Richards placed a piece of the Thing's skin in a time bubble where time would pass eons per second. That piece of skin evolved into an omnipotent being that did away with the Evil Things and also removed the Thing's ability to turn human. Richards also has a device that allows him to see into the future...and if the Thing's skin didnt remove the evil Thing's they would have destroyed civilization, according to the device.

* Cyke wins this, he'll never let Ben rush close to him...