Theosophy

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Theosophy

Have you heard something about Theosophy ? Or know what it is ? This is the place to post any comments you want, or discuss about it.

Let me explain something about it:

Theosophy is a body of belief which holds that all religions are attempts by man to ascertain "the Divine", and as such each religion has a portion of the truth. Theosophy, as a coherent belief system, developed from the writings of Helena Petrovna Blavatsky. Together with Henry Steel Olcott, William Quan Judge, and others she founded the Theosophical Society in 1875. The knowledge contained in theosophy especially came from hinduism, and buddhism so it could be taken as some form of hiduist mysticism, but there are elements from the greeks(especially Plato), and other religions like christianism, judaism, etc.

A more formal definition from the Concise Oxford Dictionary describes Theosophy as "any of various philosophies professing to achieve a knowledge of God by spiritual ecstasy, direct intuition, or special individual relations, esp. a modern movement following Hindu and Buddhist teachings and seeking universal brotherhood." Christian Theosophy is a branch that strives for the knowledge of God and Jesus obtained by the direct intuition of the Divine essence.

Adherents of Theosophy maintain that it is a "body of truth" that forms the basis of all religions. Theosophy, they claim, represents a modern face of Sanatana Dharma, "the Eternal Truth", as the proper religion.

My signature picture is the seal of the Theosophical Society, but I´m not a theosophist, I just like it very much.

The five prominent symbols visible in the seal of the Theosophical Society are the Star of David, the Ankh, the Swastika, the Ouroboros. There is the symbol of the sansckit letter Aum above the swastika, and around the seal are written the words: "There is no religion higher than truth", but that was not showed in the picture bellow.

If you want to know more there is the site bellow which is very complete, and explain theosophy detailed from the begining, just start reading. It explains a lot of things, and many make sense, they are not just about blindly believing in things. They have the kind of knowledge which is hard to find, very good for those who seek knowledge.

http://laluni.helloyou.ws/netnews/bk/toc.html

I'll have to read more before I have a decent comment... 🙂

Yeah.. well I see that there was not much to talk about, but at least there is the site for anyone that want to know more...

I'll read it....Is it like "The Chronicles of Atlantis?"..😄 .....though I have heard of Alice Bailey at one time.

Have you heard about Krishnamurti? I read that he left that society. Care to explain?

Originally posted by debbiejo
Is it like "The Chronicles of Atlantis?

You got the idea... just like it. 😄

Man...there's a lot to read in there...yes....OK...pick a topic and I'll talk about it...That might be better.... 📖 🤨

New Age, white magic...tele stuff....In fact it all sounds interesting to me...

Originally posted by tax
Have you heard about Krishnamurti? I read that he left that society. Care to explain?

Yeah... I´ve heard of him, but I don´t know about any relations he could have had with the Theosophical society. But I know that he talked about some kind of spirituality with any attachment to any religion, or individual belief. So maybe thats because he left the society if he really did that.

Well, let me tell about what they believe in general.

Evolution of the soul

In theosophy, they believe that the human beings are immortal in their higher selves, and only our personality is temporary. They believe that we shall reincarnate, until we reach a level of spiritual development to be free of this cycle of reincarnations which is called samsara. For this it is needed to eliminate our inferior ego, or personality(just like buddhism teaches). When we are free of the cycle of rebirth we achieved moksha, or which is analogous to nirvana. To achieve moksha means that we became completely aware of our higher self, and we become one with the Supreme being. In this perspective, it is what Siddharta did when he became buddha, or what Jesus did when he ascended to the heavens. They achieved moksha.

THE LEVELS OF THE SOUL

Just like they divide the soul into five levels in the Kabbalah, in Theosophy they divide it into seven levels, they are :

Physical Body(forgot its name in sanscrit) - The name tells everything.

Etheric Body(Linga sharira) - This is the etheric body and has the function of sustaining the physical form of the physical body. It exists where some call astral plane in esoterism, occultism... whatever. They say that some phenomena like ghosts are actually the linga sharira, or the kama rupa that remains even after death in some cases. These bodies are linked to primitive instincts, and emotions, thats because they would remain after death when brutal murders, or things like it happen.

Pranic Body(kama rupa) - this is the animal soul, and is linked to the animal part of the human being(analogous to the id in psychology). It is the life force that sustains our life. Thats why it is called pranic body, because it is associated with the prana which is he life force(like chi or something... ).

Inferior Mind(kama manas) - it is the mind(manas), when it is associated to the animal soul. It is the level where we are at the most part of time. It is this mind that we have, and animals do not have.

Divine Mind(manas) - it is the mind when it is connected to the divine soul. It is a level that we are still developing, and moksha is achieved when we fully develop it. It is responsible for divine inspirations, and insights that we could have. It is this body that "connect us" to God.

Divine Soul(Buddhi) - while the animal soul is associated to our primal, and animal behavior, and emotions, this level is associated to the our divine, and spiritual self. It is associated to our degree of enlightenment. I mean, a person who was this level more developed, is more spiritual, or enlightned. It is the higher part of us which is still us. It is the Universal soul individualized into us.

Universal Soul(Atma) - this level is also called the paraego, or true self. It is the Supreme Being(Brahman) in us, and in this level we are not anymore an individual, but this level can be understood as the part of "us" that is the Universal Soul, or Supreme Being. In this level there is no diference between us, and the Supreme Being. The Supreme Being that I´m talking about is like the universe as a whole, or what people call God.

When we die, the four first levels vanish, and the other three(Atma,Buddhi, and Manas) remain, these are immortal and are part of our true self, the others are just part of a personality that we assume on every incarnation.

hey Atlantis001. you talk about theosophy but do you believe in it? For me it is hard to believe in something which I haven't seen or experienced. Do you know why? Because the moment we associate ourselves with some believe, we close our mind to what is and create an image of what is supposed to be. It is totally contradictory.

Originally posted by tax
hey Atlantis001. you talk about theosophy but do you believe in it? For me it is hard to believe in something which I haven't seen or experienced. Do you know why? Because the moment we associate ourselves with some believe, we close our mind to what is and create an image of what is supposed to be. It is totally contradictory.

Well I don´t despise it, I think it could be truth, but I do not consider anything in it to be truth if I do not have a way to understand it. We cannot observe theosophy with our eyes, but our intuition can reach it. Intuition is the instrument to be used in this science.

And everything is a belief, there is no way to escape believing... even when you experience things you must believe that what you are seeing is real. I mean that we must believe that "experience is real" is true, there is no way to prove the truth in that sentence, we just have a very strong faith that is true.

That leads me to think that everything is beliefs, like the sentence before, but our intuition is the only way to judge that sentence true, or false, since we cannot prove it. So, intuition could be a valid way to acquire knowledge. Its our intuition that makes our experience, and even science real, since it is based on experience.

Thats what Theosophy thinks about intuition, and it makes sense. Even science uses intuition this way when they assume the validity of the scientific method for example. This way you can understand that intuition is not so bad, and it is not senseless to use it to acquire the kind of knowledge that is only reachable by it.

Originally posted by Atlantis001
Well I don´t despise it, I think it could be truth, but I do not consider anything in it to be truth if I do not have a way to understand it. We cannot observe theosophy with our eyes, but our intuition can reach it. Intuition is the instrument to be used in this science.

I believe intuition plays a huge part in things as does what we would call coincidences...Many of the things mentioned are also part of other beliefs too like what could be thought of as Chakras, or the Kaballah tree of life. Also has things in common with New Age, buddhists, Hindu,and Shamans beliefs...It just goes by other names for the parts you are describing...I feel there is much we cannot see with our eyes that is still very very real..And like I've said before, I feel we can interact with it...communicate or manipulate it if you like to some degree...Don't know if I agree with the Karma though, cause that would be some judgement that we really have no control over...

This is a very interesting site...I'm trying to read through parts of it..

I agree with you Atlantis that everything we know is just a another believe. Some might reject believing in things but yet they are still within the confines of believing something that is by not believing in anything. You say intuition is the answer to clarify the validity of a believe. What is intuition? Is it a perception but without reasoning, which means you somehow believe in something but can't explain why?What is the truth that you are trying to find using this intuition method? Please explain.

To me intuition is an inner guidance and the more you tune into to it, the more you hear...It may speak to you in coincidence, dreams, a voice in your mind that keeps repeating...A chance meeting, an inner knowing, a connection with truth....I've had circumstances just of late where I dismissed it as paranoid thoughts only later to realize it was a warning, but to my surprise it didn't end but set up coincidences that helped me out...It's learning too recognize it when you hear it.

Are you telling me debbiejo, that you believe in paranormal activities? What does that have to do with theosophy?

Did you read through the site....It's mentioned in there...yep..and yes I do believe in some paranormal activities...

I do believe in some paranormal activities...
ehh you know a chap called Fox Mulder 😄

I used to watch that show..... 😂 😄 .....But I'm not talking about that kind of stuff.....

Maybe your intuition is just your subconscience mind trying to speak. I have heard about this mathematician who could not solve a problem but when he ceased to think about it, the answer came to him.