kavar vs. dooku

Started by D_CP4 pages

Kavar = Simply awesome. He has 2 lightsabers, too.. so that makes him even more deadlier.

I'd call Dooku awsome too. Not as good as Kavar though.

Hm. Anyways, if you're gonna talk about Classes (Such as Watchman, Weapons Master, etc.), you should know this:

Jedi Guardians: The branch of jedi who are more martial than their counterparts. Their saber color is -traditionally- blue.

Jedi Consulars: The branch of jedi who are more into diplomacy and study of the Force. Their color is green.

Jedi Sentinels: The branch of jedi who balance both aspects of diplomacy and force use along with saber skills. They are typically deployed far and wide, and their color is yellow.

Jedi weapons Masters: Drawn from the ranks of the Guardians, these are jedi who have mastered at least one melee weapon (preferably the lightsaber). Mace Windu for all intents and purposes was a jedi weapons master. Yoda was not. It is likely that Kavar is one, but they are not exactly uncommon in his time period.

Jedi Watchmen: These are master level jedi who are competent enough to be assigned to a certain location to watch over it, hence their title. Drawn from the ranks of the Sentinels (but certainly not exclusively), they are a well rounded branch.

Jedi Master: In straight up RPG terms, Plain old jedi master is really a jedi instructor, someone who dedicates themselves to the Force and to teaching the Force. technically, one can be a good saber duellist and be a jedi instructor/master, but their purpose is unstruction in the ways of the jedi, not particularly the lightsaber.

There's a lot more if you look it up.

I know all that. That's why I called Weaponmasters a branch of the Guardians.

If I hear this junk that Makashi is bad against two opponents again, heads will roll.

Yes, heads will roll. Just like Dooku's! lol 😆

Originally posted by Sorgo
If I hear this junk that Makashi is bad against two opponents again, heads will roll.

How could it be? Dooku beat more than one person..at a time

Showing Dooku is good. That not up for debate, I'd call it a forum fact. Kavar is better though, and Makashi is less effective against two blades, that doesn't mean it is completly worthless.

No, Kavar isn't clearly better by anything presented here, and Makashi is not less effective against two blades. My two animated gifs proved that. Dooku can keep pace with two blades and even dictate the pace.

Alright fine, we'll drop the duel blade advantage. Kavar was the best out of a stronger time of Jedi, how is Dooku better?

lol

He may not be. The point me and Illustrious are trying to make it we don't entirely know enough to make a good guess. Kavar could be leagues above Dooku or on par with Obi-wan. We don't know enough about him to call it either way.

Well of course we can't say for sure, but it certainly points towards Kavar being better.

Well, I always figured he wasn't as good as the Exile because they made the Exile due to their lack of ability to destroy the dark side. However, that might just be because he was a hole in the Force, too. Regardless, that is how I relate Kavar and the other Masters to the rest of the SW universe - through the appearance that they are worse than the Exile, who is on par with Kreia, who is etc., etc. all the way to Dooku and the others.

Originally posted by Darth L. Dipsit
Well, I always figured he wasn't as good as the Exile because they made the Exile due to their lack of ability to destroy the dark side. However, that might just be because he was a hole in the Force, too. Regardless, that is how I relate Kavar and the other Masters to the rest of the SW universe - through the appearance that they are worse than the Exile, who is on par with Kreia, who is etc., etc. all the way to Dooku and the others.

The Exile is most certainly not on par with Traya.

But Traya is defeated by the Exile - how is she better?

I've made a thread about that in the EU section, read it...

Anyways Glentract is fighting for the underdog here, but I have to agree with him. There is very little proof but what he has said does make sense to me at least.

Now a few things

Somebody said the Mandelorians must have misinformed because they didn't know about Revan.

How the hell should they have known about every Jedi there is, they would focus on the more powerful one's and the older one's.

Also always keep in mind that the masters although weaker will be seen as far more important then the rest. Now Kavar is called the strongest by one master who seems to know what he's talking about. And thats saying a lot, there were people around that survived the wars with Exar Kun. And still Kavar also has more experience then them. Now you can put this all in some doubt of course but it has to based on a very large truth, and not just ignorance. Kavar definitly is powerful.

I think that he would defeat Dooku, but just like Glentract I can't really proof it. Which kinda makes this entire debate worthless.

Makashi is not as strong against multiple opponents and is likely not to be as strong against multiple blades. The reason Dooku is very easily able to hold his own against Skywalker and Kenobi is due to the fact that he is extremely incredible with using makashi. His dueling ability is not amazing because of the fact that he used Makashi but because of his strength, skill and precision with a lightsaber.

^^
agreed

sorry guys, im still going for dooku. he seems to be more intune with the force (and he has the darkside). Also he has incredible skill with a blade.

Yeah I go with Dooku too.