I'd say Odin is more outright powerful than Darkseid, but Darkseid's connection to the AntiSource is the trump card.
Outta ten though, i'd give it to Odin 3/5, post or precrisis.
Darkseid can be drained in the use of the OE, and while the same is true for the Odinpower, its not as necessary.
And the best showing ever for Darkseid, was GDS, and that wasn't his own power. And Odin still has comparable, if not better showings.
Originally posted by batdude123
I'm going to have to go with Darkseid on this one. That Omega Effect is a killer.And the fact that Darkseid telepathically DOMINATED nearly 3 MILLION Daxamites at the same time alone should be the reason why Superman beating him is PIS.
Originally posted by bigbran
Ok, now it all makes sence.
It didn't say Darkseid has never been beaten!! Nor did it say, Darkseid uses it all the time.
So basically Jesse has been making some massive assumptions.
Oh and Thanks Juggs.
DS being retconned that he has never lost a fight and that they were all avatars or desaad pretending to be him, was stated by DC in 2004, it's not assumption.
Originally posted by batdude123
I'm going to have to go with Darkseid on this one. That Omega Effect is a killer.And the fact that Darkseid telepathically DOMINATED nearly 3 MILLION Daxamites at the same time alone should be the reason why Superman beating him is PIS.
Supes has never defeated DS, all his defeats were retconned by DC to be avatars or Desaad posing as him.
P.S. DS in his depowered state (non boom tubed) also has moved solar systems with his mind as though they were nothing.
so is thanos getting an upgrade every other day, and silver surfer having better feats then the guy who gave him his powers, but hay it happens, and its accepted, yet Darkseid a god a guy who can move planets you dont think thats dumb that he loses to superman and can defeat odin, who is nothing but a mere earth god, while darkseid was killing pantheons and taking there power, odin derives his power from asgard how do you know darkseid wont just kill off all the asgardians and take most of odins power away, or that he wont just OE him away he's not needed by anyone, what feats has odin done that make him so great, i certainly never seen him kill an entire pantheon, or at least mentioned as being able to defeat one.
Originally posted by UniOmni
I'd say Odin is more outright powerful than Darkseid, but Darkseid's connection to the AntiSource is the trump card.Outta ten though, i'd give it to Odin 3/5, post or precrisis.
Darkseid can be drained in the use of the OE, and while the same is true for the Odinpower, its not as necessary.
And the best showing ever for Darkseid, was GDS, and that wasn't his own power. And Odin still has comparable, if not better showings.
Found one of the scans of Darkseid being vital to the universe.
Originally posted by Mider999
so is thanos getting an upgrade every other day, and silver surfer having better feats then the guy who gave him his powers, but hay it happens, and its accepted, yet Darkseid a god a guy who can move planets you dont think thats dumb that he loses to superman and can defeat odin, who is nothing but a mere earth god, while darkseid was killing pantheons and taking there power, odin derives his power from asgard how do you know darkseid wont just kill off all the asgardians and take most of odins power away, or that he wont just OE him away he's not needed by anyone, what feats has odin done that make him so great, i certainly never seen him kill an entire pantheon, or at least mentioned as being able to defeat one.
Odin has, destroyed two galaxies.
Shaken the multiverse in his battles.
Created a solar system.
Created Mangog.
Fought and beat Surtur, who destroyed a galaxy to forge the Twilight.
Created the Destroyer.
The list goes on.
And his crowning achievement.
He created Mjnollir and Stormbreaker, two weapons which trump 95% of comic superheroes and powers.
Originally posted by B dot Rob
What I want to know is where it is said that all of Darkseid's appearances are avi's. I'm sorry but that's probably the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever read in my life.
It's up there with that entire season of 'Dallas' being nothing more than a dream by one character. 🙄
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Darkseid kills gods and ressurects them effortlessly.
Realistically Odin is no match.
He has no answer for the OE.
Superman deflected the OE away with his heat vision. 🙄
I think Odin - who can absorb and use all the mystical power of the nine worlds of Asgard's dimension - can make a power shield great enough to stop it. Or turn it back towards Darkseid.
Originally posted by roughrider
Superman deflected the OE away with his heat vision. 🙄I think Odin - who can absorb and use all the mystical power of the nine worlds of Asgard's dimension - can make a power shield great enough to stop it. Or turn it back towards Darkseid.
Superman can reflect it because he is protected purposely by the source from it, the Source, Superman, and Darkseid are 3 of the fundamental forces of DC in some unknown way to them or another.