Darkseid vs Odin

Originally posted by Jesse7
Superman can reflect it because he is protected purposely by the source from it, the Source, Superman, and Darkseid are 3 of the fundamental forces of DC in some unknown way to them or another.

He's been blasted by the OE many times, and has survived; it's true. But if he can do something as ridiculous as deflect it away with heat vision (I slapped my forehead when I saw it), Odin can do much better than that.

Originally posted by roughrider
He's been blasted by the OE many times, and has survived; it's true. But if he can do something as ridiculous as deflect it away with heat vision (I slapped my forehead when I saw it), Odin can do much better than that.

It was explained the reason he can combat the OE is because the source protects him for some unknown reason, similarly how the source protects DS in some unknown reason; Spectre tried to kill DS, but the Source wouldn't let Spectre.

Originally posted by roughrider
Superman deflected the OE away with his heat vision. 🙄

I think Odin - who can absorb and use all the mystical power of the nine worlds of Asgard's dimension - can make a power shield great enough to stop it. Or turn it back towards Darkseid.

So because Superman can do it due to his importance to the source, now Odin can do it?

Get that crap outta here. Can Odin ressurect his entire army with a thought? Kills gods with a touch and bring them back alive with a thought?

Darkseid has handled full patheons of gods, collapsed time and multiplied the mass of the universe times 10.

I doubt Odin would survive any kind of battle with the Spectre.

I doubt Darkseid would as well Avy, barring his importance.
And Superman isn't a fundamental force of the universe.
He might be a force, as the Trial of Superman shows, but look up the definition of fundamental and realize your mistake.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
So because Superman can do it due to his importance to the source, now Odin can do it?

Get that crap outta here. Can Odin ressurect his entire army with a thought? Kills gods with a touch and bring them back alive with a thought?

Darkseid has handled full patheons of gods, collapsed time and multiplied the mass of the universe times 10.

I doubt Odin would survive any kind of battle with the Spectre.

Originally posted by UniOmni
I doubt Darkseid would as well Avy, barring his importance.
And Superman isn't a fundamental force of the universe.
He might be a force, as the Trial of Superman shows, but look up the definition of fundamental and realize your mistake.

The mistake here IS "fundamental" since I never said it. Odin definitely isn't more important the Superman in the scheme of things.

Either way, true DS is akin to Galactus in both power AND vitality to the universe while Odin is considered quite below.

Should Spectre put Odin down, he would stay down, DS managed to come right back.

This reason of someone being important to the source, sounds like the same crutch writers gave Thanos of being barred from Death's realm, for how he survives such huge battles with cosmic foes.

Since Superman is so important to the source, I guess Darkseid must have stopped any plans of killing him anymore - right? 🙄

Originally posted by roughrider
This reason of someone being important to the source, sounds like the same crutch writers gave Thanos of being barred from Death's realm, for how he survives such huge battles with cosmic foes.

Since Superman is so important to the source, I guess Darkseid must have stopped any plans of killing him anymore - right? 🙄

He wastes little time on Superman as is. Usually Superman goes to him... 🙄

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
The mistake here IS "fundamental" since I never said it. Odin definitely isn't more important the Superman in the scheme of things.

Either way, true DS is akin to Galactus in both power AND vitality to the universe while Odin is considered quite below.

Should Spectre put Odin down, he would stay down, DS managed to come right back.

The fundamental was aimed at Jesse's incorrect spouting. Not you.

And what exactly is True Darkseid??

And what i don't think many understand, is that when Galactus first came on the scene, he wasn't what he is today.

He was a powerful being who survived the previous universe. Him and Odin were neck to neck.

And if Kirby created all three characters, and made Galactus and Odin equals/rivals, and created DS in DC as an equal to Galactus, wouldn't that mean he intended him to be a peer of Odin as well??

Or is my logic flawed??

Darkseid and Odin remained skyfathers, while Galactus rose up the ranks to the pinnacle of power.

Darkseid wins a few due to his OE, but i see Odin taking the majority.

Originally posted by UniOmni
The fundamental was aimed at Jesse's incorrect spouting. Not you.

And what exactly is True Darkseid??

And what i don't think many understand, is that when Galactus first came on the scene, he wasn't what he is today.

He was a powerful being who survived the previous universe. Him and Odin were neck to neck.

And if Kirby created all three characters, and made Galactus and Odin equals/rivals, and created DS in DC as an equal to Galactus, wouldn't that mean he intended him to be a peer of Odin as well??

Or is my logic flawed??

Darkseid and Odin remained skyfathers, while Galactus rose up the ranks to the pinnacle of power.

Darkseid wins a few due to his OE, but i see Odin taking the majority.

I see Darkseid taking the majority. Once again...patheon of gods>Odin.

What is Odin going to do exactly? Magic? Physical force?

OE is a trump card, and DS is still much closer on level with Galactus than he is with Odin.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I see Darkseid taking the majority. Once again...patheon of gods>Odin.

What is Odin going to do exactly? Magic? Physical force?

OE is a trump card, and DS is still much closer on level with Galactus than he is with Odin.

Yeah, they both job to musclemen with an S on their costume.

Odin's average is much better than Galactus's, imo.

And what exactly will Darkseid do to Odin, barring instant kill OE blast??

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I see Darkseid taking the majority. Once again...patheon of gods>Odin.

What is Odin going to do exactly? Magic? Physical force?

OE is a trump card, and DS is still much closer on level with Galactus than he is with Odin.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Yeah, they both job to musclemen with an S on their costume.

Odin's average is much better than Galactus's, imo.

And what exactly will Darkseid do to Odin, barring instant kill OE blast??

Exactly the reply I was waiting for.

1 has an absolute trump card, the other one doesn't.

Unfortunately for Odin, this means victory on Darkseid's end.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Yeah, they both job to musclemen with an S on their costume.

Odin's average is much better than Galactus's, imo.

And what exactly will Darkseid do to Odin, barring instant kill OE blast??

Darkseid telepathically dominated 3 million DAXAMITES all at the same time. 'Nuff said. The Superman showings were horrid PIS. It's not right to gauge him on his jobbing to Superman.

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
I agree with the OE being a trump card. I do however think that Odin isn't that far from Galactus as well. When he was created he was on par. He had multiversal effecting feats. Odin was never shown to be powered down or was it ever said on panel. The books never really focused on him . The only reference we have about Odins power in a long time is "said" by another character on panel. Not really a feat. I just dont believe we can downplay a characters power just because they haven't shown it in a long time.

Real Darkseid wins.
Avatar loses.
Is it that hard?

I never said he was close. I said he wasnt that far away. I also said when they were created they were practically equal which is true. Galan grew in power but Odin never powered down either.

Just how many characters has Darkseid blasted with the OE, only for them to survive?
Seems like a lot, if you put a list together of name heroes. They can't all be important to the source.
Or is it just DC's maddening inconsistency?

Orion Vs. Darkseid

All I have to say is WTF?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind

Get that crap outta here. Can Odin ressurect his entire army with a thought?

He ressurrected the billions of people from the race that consisted of Mangog.

Kills gods with a touch and bring them back alive with a thought?

Which god are you talking about? He could've killed Hela if he wanted too. She was at his mercy. It was also a touch from Odin. And the gods, Asgardians are gods too and I wouldn't even hesitate to say Odin couldn't kill any of them. He killed Seth, a hell lord of the Heliopolis, and Forsung, leader of the Enchanters.

By the way, what "god" are you refering to?

Darkseid has handled full patheons of gods, collapsed time and multiplied the mass of the universe times 10.

Which pantheon did he beat? How powerful were they?

And when did he collaspe time and multiplied the mass of the universe times 10?

I doubt Odin would survive any kind of battle with the Spectre. [/B]

I doubt Darkseid would either. He would in fact get mauled and bloodied. You don't have to erase someone from existence to kick them around. Spectre Vs. Darkseid? Spectre 10/10

Odin takes the majority over Darkseid.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Orion Vs. Darkseid

All I have to say is WTF?