Darkseid vs Odin

Started by bigbran41 pages

Originally posted by UniOmni
"A wise man once told me don't argue with fools."

Don't bother with this.
I already said Darkseid gets one clear victory, due to the OE.
But to compare a feat list, is insane.
And while Thor has less feats than Superman, he has some that blow the Man of Steel out the water.

I still maintain that Odin pulls the majority,

Show some feats then!!

That's all you've been saying, is Odin's feats don't compare.
Then show some!!!!

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
If you have read the next books it was in Ds plan to let orion rule over apokolips for a short period

The logic of DC writers and editors, plus several backers of Darkseid on this thread, is so beautifully perfect.
Half the time Darkseid loses, it was all part of his plan.
The other half, it was an avatar of him - BECAUSE THE REAL DARKSEID HAS NEVER BEEN SEEN. 🙄 😆

I want ONE confromation of this from someone high up at DC, or a bio somewhere. The DS bio on Wiki makes some mentions of avatars here and there, but says nothing about this idea the true Darkseid has never been shown.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darkseid

ummm dr light hurt antimonitor wow maybe it was cause he just got beaten up by spectre and then darkseid, did you fail to remeber when antimonitor whom you must think is weak stalemated spectre, and it was ina spectre comic and spectre did win but he was hurt by the OE and maybe he should have used those galaxy destroying powers on the Celestials and he wouldnt have gotten punked by them.

Originally posted by bigbran
Show some feats then!!

That's all you've been saying, is Odin's feats don't compare.
Then show some!!!!

Idiot. I've been arguing for Odin this entire thread.

And Darkseid has been beaten. Most recently, iirc, in Legion. Before that, it was S/B.
Superman didn't go all the way to the source wall to retrieve an avatar.

Originally posted by Juntai
Butbut... Gladiator did beat Ego, White Witch. 😄

😮‍💨 He was like a bee trying to sting a man. Great showing but in no way did he beat Ego.

Originally posted by Mider999
ummm dr light hurt antimonitor wow maybe it was cause he just got beaten up by spectre and then darkseid, did you fail to remeber when antimonitor whom you must think is weak stalemated spectre, and it was ina spectre comic and spectre did win but he was hurt by the OE and maybe he should have used those galaxy destroying powers on the Celestials and he wouldnt have gotten punked by them.

Your post is mess.

1. AM beat up Spectre
2. Then AM continued his rampage. The heroes fought him and then his power was drained by one of then and Dr. Light absorbed a nearby star to put a hole into him; KOing him.
3. AM reabsorbed his anti-matter demons and ressurects himself
4. They fought him again and DS's tech destroyed his shell using Apokolips tech, knocking him into a sun
5. AM's conscious came after the Supermen, Kal-L turned back and finished the job.

What part of DS not doing it on his own is so hard to understand? Or that he was using techs?

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
😮‍💨 He was like a bee trying to sting a man. Great showing but in no way did he beat Ego.

Your post is mess.

1. AM beat up Spectre
2. Then AM continued his rampage. The heroes fought him and then his power was drained by one of then and Dr. Light absorbed a nearby star to put a hole into him; KOing him.
3. AM reabsorbed his anti-matter demons and ressurects himself
4. They fought him again and DS's tech destroyed his shell using Apokolips tech, knocking him into a sun
5. AM's conscious came after the Supermen, Kal-L turned back and finished the job.

What part of DS no doing it on his own is so hard to understand? Or that he was using techs?

Mider won't accept logic. So don't waste the effort.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Mider won't accept logic. So don't waste the effort.

I'll stop trying then.

so whats your point AM messed up the spectre, spectre losed cause of some drawback to killing the AM dont ask me why but he was later punished for not winning cause he could have, so your saying in your own words he ran off spectre, but got his shell destroyed by DS......wow you sure make a good point in making DS look like a nobody great job.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
😮‍💨 He was like a bee trying to sting a man. Great showing but in no way did he beat Ego.

Your post is mess.

1. AM beat up Spectre
2. Then AM continued his rampage. The heroes fought him and then his power was drained by one of then and Dr. Light absorbed a nearby star to put a hole into him; KOing him.
3. AM reabsorbed his anti-matter demons and ressurects himself
4. They fought him again and DS's tech destroyed his shell using Apokolips tech, knocking him into a sun
5. AM's conscious came after the Supermen, Kal-L turned back and finished the job.

What part of DS not doing it on his own is so hard to understand? Or that he was using techs?

Your post is a mess. Spectre defeated Anti-Monitor. It says so in History of the DCU, and in his Secret File. 😉

You may argue that. .. but why did Anti-Monitor live on, and Spectre was down?

And your answer is. . . .His body was found unconscious later in the series, but as Phantom Stranger and others tried to wake him with their magic, it was made clear that he was in that state by his own volition. "He's resisting us! His power is too great!" Spectre had fullfilled his purpose in that story at that point.

You also forgot to mention the part of Anti-Monitor absorbing the energies of his entire universe before Darkseid blasted him.
Both repowering and Darkseids beams can be found here.
http://img335.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fa8e2bccjpgorig8te.jpg

The very fact that they still kept writing him as 'severely weakened' after repowering himself with the energy of an entire universe, lends a lot of credibility to the character and those that defeated him, imo. A true multiversal conqueror, who's had more lasting effects on comics on any other major villain.

You also seem to be insinuating[just from the way I'm reading the particular post] that the tech that did it, but the tech was just a conduit for him to channel his Omega Beam through Alexander, and nothing more.

http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fa66603fjpgorig7hq.jpg
Here is DC's Odin admitting that Darkseid is too powerful for Asgard to reckon.

And before you claim how he's far weaker than Marvel's version because he has no showings....Here's DC Odin, he created a pocket universe and trapped Surter in it, who then fought off the entire JSA, up to and including the 5th Dimension Genie, Thunderbolt.[Giving the idea of great power to Surtur fighting the JSA, and in turn, Odin for being superior enough to banish him to a universe of his own creation]

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pbd477189a2bb4c526e3f3b81f93d33e8/f913a49c.jpg

Both Compliments of the Darkseid respect thread.

Tell these idiots Juntai

It's all fruitless anyways Jugg6666, no matter how many times this stuff gets thrown in their faces they forget it by the time a new Darkseid thread appears and suddenly it's back to square one.

Originally posted by Juntai
It's all fruitless anyways Jugg6666, no matter how many times this stuff gets thrown in their faces they forget it by the time a new Darkseid thread appears and suddenly it's back to square one.

I know 🙁 When i talk about ds feats i feel like im talking to my self

I don't care about DC's Odin. Pantheons at the two companies seem to be at different levels for several Gods.
Marvel Odin holds virtually the same position power-wise as DC's Highfather, and he is powerful enough to be Darkseid's opposite.

Originally posted by roughrider
I don't care about DC's Odin. Pantheons at the two companies seem to be at different levels for several Gods.
Marvel Odin holds virtually the same position power-wise as DC's Highfather, and he is powerful enough to be Darkseid's opposite.

Or Not 😐

Originally posted by Juntai
Your post is a mess. Spectre defeated Anti-Monitor. It says so in History of the DCU, and in his Secret File. 😉

You may argue that. .. but why did Anti-Monitor live on, and Spectre was down?

And your answer is. . . .His body was found unconscious later in the series, but as Phantom Stranger and others tried to wake him with their magic, it was made clear that he was in that state by his own volition. "He's resisting us! His power is too great!" Spectre had fullfilled his purpose in that story at that point.

You also forgot to mention the part of Anti-Monitor absorbing the energies of his entire universe before Darkseid blasted him.
Both repowering and Darkseids beams can be found here.
http://img335.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fa8e2bccjpgorig8te.jpg

The very fact that they still kept writing him as 'severely weakened' after repowering himself with the energy of an entire universe, lends a lot of credibility to the character and those that defeated him, imo. A true multiversal conqueror, who's had more lasting effects on comics on any other major villain.

You also seem to be insinuating[just from the way I'm reading the particular post] that the tech that did it, but the tech was just a conduit for him to channel his Omega Beam through Alexander, and nothing more.

Well said.

Thanks for saving me the post as well... 🙂

I'm not saying that Darkseid is Odins *****.

But for people to try and make it seem like Darkseid is scoffing at Odin, tells me that people aren't aware of the Allfathers power.

Odin has feats too, but it always comes down to " Darkseid is beyond all skyfathers cuz thats how Kirby created him", when that has nothing to do with Odin's showings.
Or the fact that Marvel doesn't fall under DC's jurisdiction, in lipservice to their characters.

yeah but kirbys characters do fall under his jurisdiction he said darkseid was as strong as galactus a hungry one, and no im not talking starving just hungry he's hungry all the time anyway.

i dont even get what your saying ok he repowered himself and his shell was broken by darkseid........what part of your statemen makes it seem as though darkseid didnt have something to do with his downfall you say antimonitor was repowered isnt that make it even a bigger feat for darkseid since he was repowered the antimonitor i mean. i mean im slow yeah maybe to much medication PRESCRIBED OF COURSE.

This thread is silly. Darksied is waay more powerful than people want to give him credit for. DC"s Odin is on panel more powerful than Marvel's Odin. Dc's Odin created a universe and then banished surtur to it. THe Same surtur that was able to stalemate the Jla with all thier powers. THey have Fate, Alan Scott and Thunder bolt, (one of the mightiest imps from the 5th dimension). ONe imp from the 5th dimension will give Odin hell. ANd this surtur was able to fight all of them off. ANd DC's Odin beat Surtur by creating a UNIVERSE. And to top it off, Darksied put fear into Dc's odin. A being so mighty as to defeat the Mightier Surtur from DC. Darksied can beat DC's Odin who is stronger than Marvel's ODin. He certainly has no problem Beating Marvel's Odin.