Darkseid vs Odin

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I wasn't talking any shit. I have my opinion and it won't change. Odin isn't taking the majority on DS. Thanks. good night. Now i'll feel better in the morning. Show me Odin hurting the LT, or some multiversal powers like The AM or Imperiex,and I'll change my mind.

Thats some posters problem with you. Instead of being logical and listing to their arguments, you decide your right and stand your ground. Now that can sometime be admirable but when it goes to far it looks foolish.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Thats some posters problem with you. Instead of being logical and listing to their arguments, you decide your right and stand your ground. Now that can sometime be admirable but when it goes to far it looks foolish.

I also said, when you show me Odin hurting those kinds of Guys DS has, then I'll concede. So I left room for me to change my mind. Now change my mind. Show me Odin's power hurting some Multiversals and I'll shut it up for ever. They'll be a stalemate then.

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ps--i always wondered if those really were the omega beams as well. the whole push button thing was . . . odd. i can't recall if it was addressed before jun's scan that it absolutely WAS the OE that was fired. it seems odd because you'd think DS would have had to fire them from his eyes FIRST, which he never did.

pps--despite the fact that there really is no concrete evidence to say DS is CAPABLE of erasing someone of odin's level (has he EVER wiped out someone of skyfather level before? to say DS absorbed all those pantheons is also a bit misleading -- he had his armies with him and we never actually SAW any of the battles -- least i never did . . .) i still give the very slight nod to DS because it SEEMS the OE SHOULD be able to take odin out.

be a LOT easier for odin supporters to digest though, if there was a single scan SHOWING DS wiping out someone of odin's level, and not simply hurting them.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I also said, when you show me Odin hurting those kinds of Guys DS has, then I'll concede. So I left room for me to change my mind. Now change my mind. Show me Odin's power hurting some Multiversals and I'll shut it up for ever. They'll be a stalemate then.

Odin himself was consuming the universe, is that enough? his son, his son's weapon which he created has nearly killed Galactus. He's created pocket universes, Galaxies. He's destroyed galaxies caused shock waves throughout the multiverse. He's had battles that in mere moments spanned across the universe creating new suns, and easily destroying planets. He has resurrected beings on a major scale, and was even responsible for the creation of man.

Now show me DS doing anything near that lv under his own power. I would like issue numbers and scans as was given to you when this was previously brought up.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Odin himself was consuming the universe, is that enough? his son, his son's weapon which he created has nearly killed Galactus. He's created pocket universes, Galaxies. He's destroyed galaxies caused shock waves throughout the multiverse. He's had battles than in mere moments spanned across the universe creating new suns, and easily destroying planets. He has resurrected beings on a major scale, and was even responsible for the creation of man.

Now show me DS doing anything near that lv under his own power. I would like issue numbers and scans as was given to you when this was previously brought up.

DS created Stayne She's easily a match for any "weapon" Odin has created. READ the GDS. and then see how the current DS owned that future version that was bad assed. I'm tired of this. I'm going to keep my opinion and your going to keep urs.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Odin himself was consuming the universe, is that enough? his son, his son's weapon which he created has nearly killed Galactus. He's created pocket universes, Galaxies. He's destroyed galaxies caused shock waves throughout the multiverse. He's had battles than in mere moments spanned across the universe creating new suns, and easily destroying planets. He has resurrected beings on a major scale, and was even responsible for the creation of man.

Now show me DS doing anything near that lv under his own power. I would like issue numbers and scans as was given to you when this was previously brought up.

You'd probably get a better answer from Leon.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
DS created Stayne She's easily a match for any "weapon" Odin has created. READ the GDS. and then see how the current DS owned that future version that was bad assed. I'm tired of this. I'm going to keep my opinion and your going to keep urs.

So do you have scans or proof?

I would also like to point out that currently DS isn't as powerful as he once was, and the scans Leo provided clearly show that DS feared the Odin of DC whom may be weaker than his marvel counter part.

Although Darkseid has previously been written as a near-unbeatable and omnipotent foe, his recent characterizations have shown him to be somewhat powered down. Face it, he's no longer the all powerful being he was once portrayed to be. For example in one instance, the OE is deflected by Wonder Woman's bracelets, a feat that normally would have been impossible according to previous continuity. It is how it is, DS is currently no match for Odin.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
So do you have scans or proof?

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Originally posted by Soujaboy
So do you have scans or proof?

I would also like to point out that currently DS isn't as powerful as he once was, and the scans Leo provided clearly show that DS feared the Odin of DC whom may be weaker than his marvel counter part.

Although Darkseid has previously been written as a near-unbeatable and omnipotent foe, his recent characterizations have shown him to be somewhat powered down. Face it, he's no longer the all powerful being he was once portrayed to be. For example in one instance, the OE is deflected by Wonder Woman's bracelets, a feat that normally would have been impossible according to previous continuity. It is how it is, DS is currently no match for Odin.

Originally posted by Soujaboy

Isn't odin dead? Current DS beats Odin. In thier primes, DS takes it.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Isn't odin dead? Current DS beats Odin. In thier primes, DS takes it.

Yes, so we take the most recent portrayed of each character. Currently DS is a mere shadow of his former self, while Odin was shown to still be Odin in Thor v2 #60 .

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Yes, so we take the most recent portrayed of each character. Currently DS is a mere shadow of his former self, while Odin was shown to still be Odin in Thor v2 #60 .

Actaully DS in his current self is shown creating a pocket reality. Go figure. Your not keeping up.

It is said that the true Darkseid..non avatar..can not likely lose on the physical plane...so, I don't know if Odin can beat him or not.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actaully DS in his current self is shown creating a pocket reality. Go figure. Your not keeping up.

Show me.

darkseid waited to attack asgard, and did so only AFTER he had amassed more power than he already possessed by 'absorbing' the other pantheons. even with this added power, he STILL planned to attack asgard while odin was gone.

had DS been confident the OE would simply take odin out, why go through all the trouble of gathering more power before striking at asgard . . .? thor used a strong word to explain the reason -- according to him, DS was "fearful". highfather later affirmed thor's opinion. not sure i'd go so far as to say 'fearful', but certainly DS was . . . VERY cautious in his plans to attack asgard.

hmm . . .

Well, and to be fair about this, Darkseid was cautious in his plan to attack Asgard because the Asgardians had such a close connection with the Old Gods. He wasn't sure what that meant in regards to what Darkseid could do to them. Thats why he was cautious. Its the reason thats given in the very issues you are citing.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
It is said that the true Darkseid..non avatar..can not likely lose on the physical plane...so, I don't know if Odin can beat him or not.

I'm sure that Darkseid has said that, but Darkseid has been beaten any number of times "on the physical plane" by Superman and Orion.

That might be retconned in their upcoming relaunch, but for now it stands I think.

Another thing...there is no evidence that the current Darkseid is less powerful than what he once was. Its speculation, pure and simple.

We don't go around saying that Superman isn't as powerful as he once was because he had a string of defeats, do we? We chalk them up as showings, to be averaged with all the others.

Originally posted by leonidas
to say DS absorbed all those pantheons is also a bit misleading -- he had his armies with him and we never actually SAW any of the battles -- least i never did . . .)

Just to address this point...We did indeed see Darkseid killing the gods of those pantheons. It was a brief thing, but in issue 15 of Simonson's "Orion" series we see him killing them with his Omega Beams.

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Odin himself was consuming the universe, is that enough?

Are you talking about Infinity? I think I already addressed, he was tapping into the Infinity Abstract's power to do this.

his son, his son's weapon which he created has nearly killed Galactus.

Well thats a little misleading as Odin far from created the device out of thin air. Lots of different races and magics were involved. It was a combination of the Hammer and Thor's own godly essence, which is partially derived from Gaea rather than Odin.

Also, this Galactus was weak and fighting Odin just before.

He's created pocket universes, Galaxies.

When has he created pocket universes? Just curious, as I know this is definitely something DC's Odin did.

He's destroyed galaxies caused shock waves throughout the multiverse. He's had battles that in mere moments spanned across the universe creating new suns, and easily destroying planets. He has resurrected beings on a major scale, and was even responsible for the creation of man.

Ressurection is actually no big deal for Darkseid. Does it all the time.

And he really didn't create man save in his own myth. Marvel's true creation story seems to be the Celestials tampering.