Darkseid vs Odin

Started by Evil_Ash41 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
this is how he gets when everyone calls him out as a darkseid fanboy. he doesnt want to play anymore and i guess by this text he means he only argues with people he knows. he doesnt want to play. he just keeps posting about darkseid hurting the spectre in every post about darkseid.
Originally posted by quanchi112
even ur friends call u biased. ur friends on here know ur a dc fanboy. dont deny who u are and try to justify it. just accept it.

Wow.

I think you just basically described yourself....

...Except you're a Thanos and Marvel fanboy, and you don't have any friends here....

Originally posted by quanchi112
it happened in the future. dont u get that. we arent there yet in that century. how does it count. tell me how. did u read it. did u?

Yes I did. Now tell me exactly how you see it to be logical to credit someone with something they haven't done yet? Orion is destined to dethrone Darkseid but we don't credit him with the feat yet because he STILL HASN'T DONE IT.

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
Wow.

I think you just basically described yourself.....

...Except you're a Thanos and Marvel fanboy, and you don't have any friends here....

neevr came here to make friends. and heres the difference. if ur friends even call u biased then u really are. ur enemeies will call u anything to make u look bad. ur helping my point here. 😄

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yes I did. Now tell me exactly how you see it to be logical to credit someone with something they haven't done yet? Orion is destined to dethrone Darkseid but we don't credit him with the feat yet because he STILL HASN'T DONE IT.
well said darthgoober i know he had to have gotten it now. i hope 💃

Originally posted by quanchi112
neevr came here to make friends. and heres the difference. if ur friends even call u biased then u really are. ur enemeies will call u anything to make u look bad. ur helping my point here. 😄

I didn't come here to make freinds. I came here to talk about comics becuz it was intersting. Trolls have made the forum pretty ugly at times, but I stay becuz it's entertainment and becuz I like to argue for the underdogs. Which for a long time were the DC characters.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yes I did. Now tell me exactly how you see it to be logical to credit someone with something they haven't done yet? Orion is destined to dethrone Darkseid but we don't credit him with the feat yet because he STILL HASN'T DONE IT.
The point we're trying to make is, current Darkeid has already defeated his older Gds self. He doesn't even need to perform the feats because he's shown himself to even more powerful then that version.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
HUH? We don't know at what point in the younger self's life, this event took place. For all we know, he's already been to the future and done that. Even tho the timeline exist no more, he still has the memory of it.

Wait so you're just ASSUMING most of this stuff, you don't actually know the details? What it boils down to is simple, unless the current incarnation of DS actually REMEMBERS preforming his feats from the GDS first person perspective, he never did them. If he never did them, then they're invalid to his current character.

Also, you never responded to this...

Originally posted by darthgoober
My point is that Spectre is as powerful as the Presence WANTS him to be, so if the Presence had his back the OE shouldn't have hurt him. That means that when DS hurt Spectre he wasn't at full power.

THEY STILL HAVEN'T HAPPENED YET. That was a FUTURE DS that preformed those feats not DS's current incarnation. So his current incarnation doesn't have those feats to his credit.

Indeed it is impressive. But here's the thing, yes DS was weaker during the GDS, however if DS is a "higher order" God than Odin, then it's reasonable to assume that Odin was weaker during the GDS as well. That means that DS had to have the power from Excalibur and that Orb to beat Odin and the rest, his reduced power was unable to match THEIR reduced power alone.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I didn't come here to make freinds. I came here to talk about comics becuz it was intersting. Trolls have made the forum pretty ugly at times, but I stay becuz it's entertainment and becuz I like to argue for the underdogs. Which for a long time were the DC characters.
ill give u this much. we both agree we came here to talk comics. i feel bad for the people that come her for social reasons. ill give neevr his due here for coming to talk comics. and i dont hate anyone i argue with about anything. i just agree to disagree. u may hate me but i dont hate u. anyways carry on. i just firmly believe odin is above thanos and darkseid in terms of persoanl power. that is it. i feel hea slight notch up.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Wait so you're just ASSUMING most of this stuff, you don't actually know the details? What it boils down to is simple, unless the current incarnation of DS actually REMEMBERS preforming his feats from the GDS first person perspective, he never did them. If he never did them, then they're invalid to his current character.

Also, you never responded to this...

I was only thinking about Odin in his current form. As far as odin being weaker, it never stated such. only DS being weaker. Thus we have to say that Odin was Not weaker.

Here we go: The Infinity Man getting one-shotted.

http://img422.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f9e65927jpgorig8za.jpg
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Creates Stayne, a skyfather level being equal to Takion
http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takion2125zp7ua.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takion2137mg5wc.jpg

Darkseid is so powerful, that without him, time starts collapsing in the DCU.
http://img463.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29022fc.jpg
http://img494.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29032ls.jpg
http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29105ko.jpg
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Proof that not only is Darkseid's power responsible, but that the GDS feats are valid, because here is the GDS Darkseid himself.
http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29079yu.jpg
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GDS Darkseid easily imprisons the LSH and begins explaining his plan to his younger self. Note how Young Darkseid talks about the chronoscape and how it whispers it's secrets to him. Temporal vision.
http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29066pu.jpg

Young Darkseid staggers his older self and frees the LSH.
http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29114gz.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29122gy.jpg

Young Darkseid shrugs off a blast of Astro Force, then turns the Orion clone on his older self, and channels his power through it to kill him. More proof this is indeed the GDS 'Seid, since during GDS he created dark clones of several warriors, including Orion.
http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29184gm.jpg
http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29198rc.jpg
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young Darkseid takes control of his older self's fighters easily.
http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29211pk.jpg

Originally posted by darthgoober
Wait so you're just ASSUMING most of this stuff, you don't actually know the details? What it boils down to is simple, unless the current incarnation of DS actually REMEMBERS preforming his feats from the GDS first person perspective, he never did them. If he never did them, then they're invalid to his current character.

Also, you never responded to this...

finally some one exposes starking for the person he is. hes the king of assumption and lists he doesnt even know of completey and read. he just assumes all the cool stuff he hears of darkseid counts. when somone was on here and posted mr miracle issure i belive. in it they said new gods created universe. his reposonese was whoa. meaning he doesnt know that much of darkseid or the new gods.

Originally posted by starking
The point we're trying to make is, current Darkeid has already defeated his older Gds self. He doesn't even need to perform the feats because he's shown himself to even more powerful then that version.

Raw power isn't everything. The older DS could still KNOW a few more things than the younger DS and it's THAT kind of thing that enabled him to preform those feats. Until DS's current incarnation actually experiences the GDS for himself, crediting him with the feats from that saga are nothing more than speculation.

What's more, I can't help but notice that NO ONE is wanting to point me to the issue/arc where DS and his older self fight, which is making me think that there's probably some extenuating circumstance in that battle that no one wants made into common knowledge.

Read my post. I just posted pretty much the entire fight. 😄

Go look at Trickster's post.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I was only thinking about Odin in his current form. As far as odin being weaker, it never stated such. only DS being weaker. Thus we have to say that Odin was Not weaker.

So then Odin must be some superior form of God than DS, since HIS power never goes down right?

Originally posted by starking
Go look at Trickster's post.
starking, why didnt u post anything. im still shocked why u couldnt answer these questions and prayed someone else would say something.

Originally posted by quanchi112
finally some one exposes starking for the person he is. hes the king of assumption and lists he doesnt even know of completey and read. he just assumes all the cool stuff he hears of darkseid counts. when somone was on here and posted mr miracle issure i belive. in it they said new gods created universe. his reposonese was whoa. meaning he doesnt know that much of darkseid or the new gods.
Shut up troll, he didn't expose me for anything. What I was talking about was posted, so you can no longer hide behind Darthgooger's back. Give up on debating, you have nothing to say.

Originally posted by quanchi112
starking, why didnt u post anything. im still shocked why u couldnt answer these questions and prayed someone else would say something.
Because I don't know how to post pictures. You need to keep your weak comments to yourself, you not contributing anything to this thread.

it hasnt happened. its a future story arc. silly wabbit. but u will stil lcontinue to count these feats, its fitting for the darkseid brigade. only count things tha make darksied more powerful and discount those being superman that make him look weak. i see ur logic

Originally posted by quanchi112
it hasnt happened. its a future story arc. silly wabbit. but u will stil lcontinue to count these feats, its fitting for the darkseid brigade. only count things tha make darksied more powerful and discount those being superman that make him look weak. i see ur logic
Sorry tard, but you fail. The pictures show the younger, post crisis Darkseid defeating his older self.