we keep talking about magneto destroying hulk's organs with the metal that is inside of him, but if Mags got metal inside hulk, he doesn't have to destroy his organs, he can just levitate him in the air and keep hulk out of arms reach and away from throwing objects. Hulk only weighs a couple of thousand pounds, nothing for magneto to lift. Once he was levitated and had no forms of offense, mags could hold him under water until he sufficated or throw him into the sun, or do whatever else he wanted to do with him.
I know the hulk is strong and all, but I seriously doubt that his esophagus is more powerful than Magneto. I mean think about it, even if his internal anatomy enhanced as did his outter body, how powerful is someone's throat and stomach? after a certain point in your throat, near the beginning, you don't even have conscious control of it anymore. And as for speed, Magneto can propel things over the speed of sound, and no one really knows how fast he can move things. We have created particle accelerators that move things near the speed of light; those all work on magnetism, and Magneto is more powerful than any device we can create. He proved that when the shut down all the machinery on earth.
ummmm.....when did the hulk become smarter than magneto? Mags is an "expert on genetic manipulation, and engineering, with knowledge far beyond that of contemporary science." and hulk is a nuclear physicist. these are two totally different fields of science. what exactly has Banner done to show that he was smarter than magneto?
in the initial stages of this thread, all the magneto supporters were accused of "pulling powers out of thier asses". but who's doing so now?
i mean, how the f*ck do y'all know that the hulk can digest metal, or his pores can chew them up and spit them back out? where the hell did all this come from? its funny you should mention that becuase if magneto managed to get metal inside the hulk's body what would most likely happen is just like the time his own hand got stuck inside him when he was covering up a wound, his flesh would heal around the metal, and he would truly be at magneto's mercy.
and another thing, the hulk has a top speed of 300mph, we all know that, but when did he become so fast that metal coudlnt be forced down his throat?
That's right, hulk supporters are pulling powers outa their asses. this is fantasy land isn't it? so now hulk has incredible throwing-metal-out-of-throat powers.
and theres is amplification of powers, too...i.e. hulk can glide for miles...that is not significant compared to ANYONE who can FLY in tha MU. why would ayone bother to say that? and hulk is NOT NOT NOT smarter than magneto, we are talking about "hulk"...not "professor hulk". and even if we were talking about "professor hulk"...his powers are decreased as his intelligence is increased so he would still not be a match for magneto who has vast intellect and vast powers which equate to limitless possibilities. it is also true that if prof. hulk's intelligence was equal to that of magneto's, powers come in to consideration..where magneto's powers would STILL have more methods i.e. strategy/trickery/variation/multitasking etc.
wut every magneto supporter has mentioned is a fraction of the total possibilities. magneto would win, simple. case closed guys..give up.
and considering that as far as I know the comics have never given IQ rartings for either mag. or prof. hulk, we really don't know who is the smartest of the two. We do know, however, that Mag. constantly knows shit that he shouldn't be able to know. It's almost as if his intelligence is bordering on the supernatural. Even the watered down, weakling movie magneto displayed this (ie. when he knew that rogue existed and where she could be found, when he knew all about wolverine's past even though no one ever told him about it, when he knew how the security guard got the metal into his body etc.) And yes I know some of this could be due to his slight psychic abilities, but I wouldn't say all of it because he was never really given that degree of psychic power.
yeah, but even if he did assume those things, the fact still remains that he would still not have known how mystique got the metal inside the guy. She could have shot him with a tranq. gun and injected him or anything, but Mags knew that she turned herself into a "beautiful woman."
But I was really just trying to show that somehow, unblieveable intelligence/intuition or an unwritten super psychic ability, Magneto always seems to know things that he shouldn't be capable of knowing. (not without Xaiver's help anyway, and we should assume that Xavier helped him figure things out just to later foil his plans.)
Originally posted by turboman1691
yeah, but even if he did assume those things, the fact still remains that he would still not have known how mystique got the metal inside the guy. She could have shot him with a tranq. gun and injected him or anything, but Mags knew that she turned herself into a "beautiful woman."
Did he mention the woman? In that case it seems more like something they would of planned ahead of time. Not that he anticipated getting caught then but just in case he did. You don't pull moves that big without backup plans.
i dont particularly like brian singer. i dont really think he gave the x men and x men 2 justice. he made jean grey seem like a lesbian. wolvy is one of the tallest and skinniest members. nightcrawler had glistening blue skin instead of blue fur. sabretooth looks and acts completely ridiculous with the lion roars sampled everytime he enters a scene. rogue sucks! none of them can talk with the respective accents. (logan is canadian, rogue is strong southern, storm is african in the 1st movie, and californian in the 2nd. as much as i love ian mckellen, he is way too old to play the part of magneto. thier stupid matching 'jumpsuits' are pretty ridiculous as well. wolverines claws look like cardboard cut outs sprayed with silver spray paint. sigh...i dont know if the director from buffy the vamp slayer can do any better, but he sure cant do much worse.
You are completely missing what he had to do as a director. He had to find a way to make the comic book story come alive, make people who read the comics feel a connection to the characters, explain what everyone's powers were for those who didn't read the comics, and make the movie believeable enough for a broad audience that may not have already been X-men fans. If he had given Rogue Ms. Marvel's powers, let Storm fly, Made Magneto a young man even though he was alive during the holocaust and stay completely true to the comic in other ways, the movie would have been too unbelievable and only the true X-men fans would have liked it. (Granted, if he would have done all those things, and make Magneto as strong as he was in the comics, I would have personally loved it, but I can understand, from a directors point of view, why he didn't). The accents were just toned down, b/c in the comics they were a bit, just a BIT, over exagerated and over dramatic. Sabertooth was just supposed to be primal. Overall, he did an excellent job. Unlike Ang Lee did with the Hulk, where you have to wait for an hour before you even get to see the Hulk. Granted, he was cool once he emerged, but he should have came out at the beginning of the movie, and then give his history in short flashbacks throughout the film.
i agree with you about hulk. i dont agrere with you about the singer's adaptation of the x men. i studied film at penn state. i know what he was 'trying ' to do. he is a very inexperienced director. if he really wanted to introduce the x men all over again, he should have been faithfull to the storyline and more importantly the TIMELINE! it will only cause problems when the next coupla movies come out. the sabretooth lion roars were ridiculous.
there was barely any character developement. (the little that there was belonged solely to wolverine). i could go on and on....and, actually, ona nd on and on. but , singer is moving on to bigger and better things, so he thinks, and so maybe this new gu will add more personalities and true marveldom to the x men characters.