hulk would never lte mags pump metal in him. do ya think hulk will just bend over and go 'here ya go maggy'. no. i dont think so. hulk will do everything in his power to stop mags from pumping him full of steel girders...especially when steel is like tissue paper to the hulk and the hulk can easily over power magneto's force fields and energy bubbles. hulks wins. hands down.
Originally posted by turboman1691
and considering that as far as I know the comics have never given IQ rartings for either mag. or prof. hulk, we really don't know who is the smartest of the two. We do know, however, that Mag. constantly knows shit that he shouldn't be able to know. It's almost as if his intelligence is bordering on the supernatural. Even the watered down, weakling movie magneto displayed this (ie. when he knew that rogue existed and where she could be found, when he knew all about wolverine's past even though no one ever told him about it, when he knew how the security guard got the metal into his body etc.) And yes I know some of this could be due to his slight psychic abilities, but I wouldn't say all of it because he was never really given that degree of psychic power.
1. He knew of the metal in the man's body because, as the Master of Magnetism, he can sense metal. Go ahead and check any one of his biographies or profiles.
2. Yes, he did have prior knowledge of Wolverine's past, as did Xavier. Watch the movie again, and you will see that Stryker explains it. He sent his son to Xavier to be "cured" and when Xavier couldn't help, he got angry. As a consequence of Xavier not being able to help, and his wife commiting suicide, Stryker decides to start an experimental program on mutants to find a cure. Thus, Weapon X, and Wolverine. When he finds that he can't find a cure, he finds a way to kill them all, i.e. Xavier and Cerebro.
3. It's implied that Mystique told Magneto about the escape plan(or vice versa). With the exact line you quoted.
Originally posted by nomsans
hulk would never lte mags pump metal in him. do ya think hulk will just bend over and go 'here ya go maggy'. no. i dont think so. hulk will do everything in his power to stop mags from pumping him full of steel girders...especially when steel is like tissue paper to the hulk and the hulk can easily over power magneto's force fields and energy bubbles. hulks wins. hands down.
Magneto can just fly up into the air and slam the girders into him. Hulk's skin cant resist 100 tons of metal pressure, and if he jumps at magneto, guess what? Magneto can move around while hes in the air, Hulk can only go one way, and if he's got metal in him, thats gonna be into space.
obviously I know Mags can sense metal. My question was how he knew how the metal got there. Unless it was planned before hand as another member talked about, Mystique could have never told him about it. Remember his plastic prison had cameras in it. So even if she turned herself into a guard and got into his prison she couldn't have talked about anything significant b/c of the cameras. And the movie never says that Striker explains anything to Magneto. Much to the contrary, it shows that other than having "talks" about the house that Xavier built and the machine called Cerebro, it is unlikely that Striker says much of anything to his prisoner. he sure wouldn't tell him private stuff about his past. I think it is meant, for the X-men fans, that Magneto obtained what little info he did have about Striker's past through psychic absorption out of Striker's mind. Or perhaps that he and Charles had simply talked about those things a long time ago (shortly after Xavier had failed with Striker's son).
Originally posted by turboman1691
obviously I know Mags can sense metal. My question was how he knew how the metal got there. Unless it was planned before hand as another member talked about, Mystique could have never told him about it. Remember his plastic prison had cameras in it. So even if she turned herself into a guard and got into his prison she couldn't have talked about anything significant b/c of the cameras. And the movie never says that Striker explains anything to Magneto. Much to the contrary, it shows that other than having "talks" about the house that Xavier built and the machine called Cerebro, it is unlikely that Striker says much of anything to his prisoner. he sure wouldn't tell him private stuff about his past. I think it is meant, for the X-men fans, that Magneto obtained what little info he did have about Striker's past through psychic absorption out of Striker's mind. Or perhaps that he and Charles had simply talked about those things a long time ago (shortly after Xavier had failed with Striker's son).
Or perhaps that he and Charles had simply talked about those things a long time ago (shortly after Xavier had failed with Striker's son)
Exactly. That's what I was talking about. Magneto helped Xavier build Cerebro in the first place. They are best friends. They tell each other everything.
Security cameras don't usually pick up sounds. They wouldn't have in the cell's case anyway because Stryker would not have allowed the security guards to hear what he was being told by Magneto regarding Xavier. Thus Mystique could *and obviously must* have gotten into the cell as a guard or even Stryker himself and hatched the plan. Nobody would have known.
Originally posted by turboman1691
but a long time ago, when they would have talked about striker and his son, Magneto, nor Xavier knew anything about Wolverine
Says who!? Not only is Xavier one of the most powerful telepaths on the planet(as in he could have read Stryker's mind), but Stryker would have probably bragged about searching for a cure when Xavier couldn't find one, thus inadvertently exposing the Weapon X project.
Maybe the guard gets injected by stuff on a daily bases after coming out of that bar mystique was in and he told Mags that pretty girls in there like to do that and Magneto said a witty comment and the guard had a grudge against him ever since. Then when he came with the metal Magneto just figured that he got injected by a pretty girl again.
TO WRATHO. High tech security cameras DO pick up sound, which I'm sure the ones in Mags were high tech, and if you notice, the cameras go off line when striker enters to question mags.
TO ARACHNO. your scenario is highly possible, but unlikely, b/c Xavier doesn't make a habit out of reading people's minds and learning about their pasts without their permission. He normally did so only when he absolutely needed to, or to prove a point (as was the case with logan at the beginning of the first movie). But yeah, your right, your situation is entirely possible and well within Xaiver's ability to do.
TO SOLDIER. LOL