Do you people even understand the basis of the Hulks power? Or even Magnetos for that matter? Take the "Fatal Attractions" story as an example. In this story arc, Magneto releases an electromagnetic pulse that plunged the whole planet into the dark ages. Not only did he do this, but he did it with out breaking a sweat. Flipping the poles would take massive amounts of energy, but the man is more than capable. This is a man that builds space stations out of asteroids, bypasses the effects of the legacy virus in the brains of other mutants, handed wolverine his ass, warpped the enitre planets electromagnetic field, freeze other mutants in their place using the iron in their blood....
Hulk get mad!
I fully understand both characters...after hearing u say Magneto was more powerful than molecule man and Franklin Richards, the only person whose knowledge is in question is u.
you dont understand the Hulk...and Magneto has never demonstrated that he has the ability to produce enough concentrated destructive power to stop him.
He has shown he can affect large areas like the hole planet...even Onlaught could not repel the Hulk with his power...Magneto creates space stations out of asteroids? Hulk has leaped into space and shattered bigger asteroids son.
Originally posted by Wynndar
I fully understand both characters...after hearing u say Magneto was more powerful than molecule man and Franklin Richards, the only person whose knowledge is in question is u.
you dont understand the Hulk...and Magneto has never demonstrated that he has the ability to produce enough concentrated destructive power to stop him.He has shown he can affect large areas like the hole planet...even Onlaught could not repel the Hulk with his power...Magneto creates space stations out of asteroids? Hulk has leaped into space and shattered bigger asteroids son.
WYNNDAR GET MAD!
When did Hulk leap into space? Maybe in the 60's or 70's, when comics were so silly that even Marvel doesn't take them into consideration on their official site...son?
Also, keep in mind that you aren't always talking to an avatar.
Im not mad...I dont have an emotional attachment to either Hulk or Magneto...I dont think ive ever been called a fanboy...not even by Juggernautfan, since we adamantly disagree on Hulk and Jugs. *raises eyebrow.
oh sorry about the "son" thing...I can get really sarcastic...its jus part of my nature...I think i did it subconsciously
Hulk has leapt into space twice to my knowledge...once was in the 70's and once was in the 90's...
what was the point about the avatar thing?
Why is this thread still under debate?? Why can't you people let it DIE???
I'm very glad to see more people enlightened to the fact that Magneto would win, but this thread has been beaten to death. And shot. With a cannon. And trampled. And cut into little peices. and burned. Then eaten by rabid...pigs.
Originally posted by Wynndar
Im not mad...I dont have an emotional attachment to either Hulk or Magneto...I dont think ive ever been called a fanboy...not even by Juggernautfan, since we adamantly disagree on Hulk and Jugs. *raises eyebrow.
oh sorry about the "son" thing...I can get really sarcastic...its jus part of my nature...I think i did it subconsciously
Hulk has leapt into space twice to my knowledge...once was in the 70's and once was in the 90's...what was the point about the avatar thing?
Oh yea, i saw that on another thread...but it slipped past me this time...my apologies
Wynddar: the "mindless" hulk is not "unstoppable", Silver surfer drained the gamma inside his body, Beyonder "incapacitated" him. (In the Exiles Third Reality) If I'm not mistaken a guy named "Thunderbird" whom Apocalypse physically enhanced "pummeled" the hulk severely..Absorbing Man beat him, Psyklop, defeated him, what makes you think Magneto doesn't stand a chance?
Although the hulk "out strengthens" his opponents 100% that doesn't mean he can "overpower" them..The hulk(mindless) has nothing more than his fists to work with, and getting in close. Magneto can"
1.Stay his distance and inflict damage
2.Wrap metal around hulk and send him into orbit "while" keeping a safe distance...
3.(May be overused) Can control the iron in the blood of the hulk
4.Can stop the flow of blood to the hulks brain
The Hulk can:
1.Get in close and get angrier and angrier..
Magneto wins this one somewhat easily....
Actually, in every issue of X-Men I have ever read where they confront Magneto, they are unsure that they will win. Nine times out of ten, it's a draw, with both sides simply leaving the battle. With the exception of wolverine, most of the X-Men are not too keen on a fight with Mags. When Magneto ripped the adamantium off Wolverines bones, he did it because he was finally tired of Wolverine. It's not like he couldn't do it before, he just wasn't motivated to do so.
And in all these debates, no one ever seems to take intelligence into consideration. Even if Hulk was this unstoppable force of nature, Magneto would out think him in the first few minutes of the fight. And if you wanna talk about Hulk being intelligent enough to out think Magneto, let's consider their pasts. Both Magnus and Bruce Banner posses keen intellects. Bruce Banner screwed up and got caught in a "nuclear blast"...Magneto has genetically engineered mutants. One exists because of his own **** up, the other was created by nature.
Wyndar, everything with blood (that we know of) requires iron in their blood. Until you can prove that Hulk does NOT have iron in his blood, then you cannot dismiss that SINGLE way for Magneto to win, just like I cannot dismiss the fact that it may NOT work.
As for all those geniuses, you forget, they don't have complete lateral flying capabilities, the ability to fly into space, and the ability to tear the ground apart to such an extent that nuclear explosions are smothered.
huh? I am a biology major and know that Blood is red because of the Iron functional group inside of the protien hemoglobin. Hulk has GREEN blood...additionally, how do u know his physiology relies on the same oxidative respiration ours does? Hulk doesnt run out of breath or get hungry when fights...obviously he doesnt have a metabolism in the same regard as humans or magneto. Since I read more than X-men, I know that Hulk's power and mass comes from his own pocket dimension. Regardless, even if there was Iron in his blood, Hulk's body is many thousands of times stronger than the REGULAR HUMANS that magneto has controlled the Blood of in the past...
Iron is what makes our blood red. Some living things have different metals in their transport system, for example, crabs & crustaceans use copper in their transport system which gives them blue blood, and sea shrimps have green blood as they use the metal vanadium. Different metals give different colours.
So although the hulk may have green blood it is unclear that he contains any kind of iron in his bloodstream, but his blood is "colored" which means some type of "metal" is contained in his bloodstream. The hulk contains "some type" of metal in his bloodstream and if not he would be indeed "dead" or seriously weakened..
Because of hulk's physical size and immense strength the metal in his blood has to indeed increase from Banners to a new more abundant capacity just to compensate for his physically "super" body, thus making him a walking posterboard of metal and an easier target for Magneto...Saying Magneto can't control Hulk's body is like saying he can't move a 1000lb metal object, just because hulk has immense strength doesn't affect his ability to be tossed around by Magneto, that goes beyond "physical strength" and unless the hulk can somehow decrease the metal in his blood then he can't stop himself from being moved by Magneto, not anyform of physical strength the hulk can think of can stop him from being moved by Magneto's powers, in order to display his unique "infinite strength" he needs an animate object or something he can exert his immese force upon, something than can be touched physically BUT in Magneto's case his magnetism is inanimate and cannot be "touched" physically thus disabling the hulk from any physical resistance.whatsoever.