Originally posted by comic wizard
how would magneto fight if he only controls metal hes old weak slow normal intelligence nothing special but the abilty to control metal.
normal intelligence??? Magneto is more intelligent than almost everyone in existance in the marvel universe (that is w/ the obvious exception of creatures who power is actually an exagerated intelligence). But in relation to normal people, Magneto is beyond genius level.
Originally posted by zachrivard
magneto could use his powers to stop hulk nervous system from working thereby stopin hulk from moving then he could toss him into space
How on earth would Magneto's powers stop Hulk's entire nervous system? And to those saying Magneto would be able to control the iron in Hulk's blood: unless Hulk was injected with a whole bunch of extra iron, there'd be no way Magneto could lift that much weight with so little iron to manipulate (remember, even with all the iron in the guard's body in X2, Magneto could only make 3 small marbles).
Originally posted by comic wizard
back to that adamatium idea hulk can just get so mad that he could break the world think hulk could break out of that stuff oh and hulk dosent tire at all if hes mindless hulk cause mindless hulks life is destroy anthing which means he wouldnt stop or even normal hulk hell just gain strenght as time ges bi so BYE-BYE magneto.
*wishes these people would pay attention during English so they can have correct grammar and spelling*
About your comment on the adamantium idea: adamantium is INDESTRUCTIBLE. That means that it never breaks, no matter how much force is exerted. And don't say that nothing is truly indestructible; this is the comic book world we are dealing with. Adamantium doesn't truly exist, so we can say that it's indestructible.
Originally posted by turboman1691
maybe hulk is dense enough to stop radiation from entering his body, but he has no inherant control of radiation (gamma particles), so does anyone else wonder how he was able to not only block the radiation but send it out in another direction? I was just unaware that Hulk had that ability, so yeah I guess he could beat magneto....I mean with the correct writing, he could just control magnetism too, and he could redirect whatever Magneto did to him, back at Magneto. And while he's at it, he could just destroy god himself, because any power that god could use to kill Hulk, Hulk would just redirect at god. So, hey, I guess Hulk is better than Mags, and god, and anyone else that we could possibly pit him against.Come on Hulk fans get real.
It sort of makes sense that Hulk can reflect gamma rays due to the fact that his powers come from exposure to gamma radiation. He most likely has developed a resistance to gamma rays and can therefore send them back. I doubt he could do anything with magnetism, though.
Originally posted by turboman1691
what about when everyone asked how Hulk would ever get ahold of Mags and everyone said, "he just would, he's the hulk." Yeah, great argument, I'm convinced. And as far as Apoc, Mainstream keeps trying to use the destiny thing...saying that Mags can't beat him because Cable is destine to do so. If you use that argument then you would have to conceed that noone, not even god himself could defeat Apoc because they are not destine to do so, and I'm sure we all agree that that is a rediculous conclusion to draw. The fact that cable is destined to kill apoc only means that he is the one who did it first, not that he is the only one who could have done it. That is like saying that since booth was destined to kill Lincoln, that it would have been impossible for anyone else to do it, when that is clearly not the case. Destiny is not a valid argument, so let's please stop using it.
I agree with Turbo on this one. Destiny is a very fragile thing. Just because someone is "destined" to destroy someone doesn't mean that they absolutely will. Someone else could do it, but the eventual defeat would have something to do with that destined person. In short, if you are destined to kill someone, it could just mean you have something to do with their death.
I would like to see this fight. But in reality the Hulk will destroy Magneto. Unless he starts flying away from the Hulk, then he'll survive this match. As soon as the Hulk gets a hold of Magneto it's nighty night. It might not be easy since Magneto is smart and all and can control all types of iron or metal. But I don't think any metal can stop the Hulk at all, especially when gets angrier.
Originally posted by KingDubya
How on earth would Magneto's powers stop Hulk's entire nervous system? And to those saying Magneto would be able to control the iron in Hulk's blood: unless Hulk was injected with a whole bunch of extra iron, there'd be no way Magneto could lift that much weight with so little iron to manipulate (remember, even with all the iron in the guard's body in X2, Magneto could only make 3 small marbles).
Don't go by movies, the characters are horribly weakened, and the marvels went into balls.
Magneto could sense the iron off of him, prior to the injection...
Originally posted by shaolin9976
I would like to see this fight. But in reality the Hulk will destroy Magneto. Unless he starts flying away from the Hulk, then he'll survive this match. As soon as the Hulk gets a hold of Magneto it's nighty night. It might not be easy since Magneto is smart and all and can control all types of iron or metal. But I don't think any metal can stop the Hulk at all, especially when gets angrier.
Think inside
Originally posted by shaolin9976
I would like to see this fight. But in reality the Hulk will destroy Magneto. Unless he starts flying away from the Hulk, then he'll survive this match. As soon as the Hulk gets a hold of Magneto it's nighty night. It might not be easy since Magneto is smart and all and can control all types of iron or metal. But I don't think any metal can stop the Hulk at all, especially when gets angrier.
the key to your statement is that Hulk needs to get ahold of magneto. Every Magneto supporter in this forum would have to concede that yes, if Hulk did in fact get ahold of Magneto then he would rip his human body to shreds. But the fact remains that Hulk absolutely cannot get ahold of Mags. All mags has to do is fly inside his shield and Hulk can't reach him. He can jump, but Mags would just move to the side, and once hulk leaves the ground...he's helpless. All magneto has to be able to do is lift hulk's weight (1000-2000lbs.) and he can then throw hulk around like a doll.
So yes, if Mags and Hulk strap on the glove and go at it 30's style boxing, putting their fuc*ing dukes up, then Mags gets smashed to oblivion. But if they go at it in an all out, no hold's barred, fight to the death, then Mags is just too versitile (not to mention too powerful w/ his control of the EM spectrum) for Hulk to stand a chance.
Is this debate still going on?
We already established earlier in this thread that Magneto could control the iron in hulks body(no matter the amount). Seeing as the Hulk is 1000lbs. he would contain more iron(or some type of metallic metal in his bloodstream according to the coloring of his blood) than the average human.
Magneto tosses around the X-men whom contains an adequate amount of iron in their blood, the hulk is considered a Super-human and would posess 10x's more metal in his blood than them. Magneto would rag him around at will whildst staying at a distance in which the Hulk couldn't reach.
Sorry Hulk fanboys but he loses this one fair and square. Magneto has the long-ranged advantage as the hulk "can't reach a hovering Magneto".
Magneto could either OR:
1) Wrap the hulk's body in loads of metallic objects long enough to hurl the rampaging green guy deep into orbit.
2)Could stay his distance and fling random metallic objects at hulk until he finally turns into banner and then destory him.
3)Manipulate the iron(or metal) contained in his blood(and he does have some type of metal in his blood thus coloring it) and fling him into an object in which would impale him or fling him deep into space.
The Hulks only line of offense is his increasing strength in which means "nothing" as he cannot reach a flying Magneto.
even though i promised myself i would stay away. mags could just fry hulk over and over for his own amusment( with microwave or, super charged ultraviolet emissions) and watch him babble like an neanderthal idiot. about being strongest there is. also hulk is a thousand pound walking sack of metal
since the fundamental laws of physics dictate that when colors are mixed they form other colors. i'll explain. old school, old school hulk has shown to have red blood, but thats not the case anymore. at times ive seen hulk having green blood, and most recently(2 yrs ago) hulk has shown to have purple blood.
now: animals like horse shoe crabs and lobsters have blue blood(copper based)
some insects have greenish blood( vanadium based)
so either hulk has vanadium coursing thru his veins or a mixture of iron(red) and copper(blue) to make it purple has ive seen it. either way what ever it is he has hundreds of punds of it thus making him quite an easy object to rag around. and before anyone says hulk is too strong to be lifted bear in mind that mags has simultaneously seized control of and reprogammed a dozen multi tonned sentinels the govt sent after him at genosha.
I think mags would win this as much as anyone, but I can gurantee what the reponse to that theory is going to be: "Magneto does not have enough power to force something through the nearly impenetrable skin of the hulk." We all know that within his range of manipulation Mags is all but limitless, so he would actually be able to do this, but that is what the hulk people are going to say.
Im a huge hulk fan, but i have to admit he wouldn't get his hands on mags, he is just to fast. But the only way mags is if he throws him, using the mass metal in his blood, into deep space. Nothing mags throws at him will hurt or penetrate his hide. Although if mags underestimates Hulk for a second he will go down, once he puts down his shield Hulk will knock him out of the sky with a massive sonic clap, but this senerio will most likely not play out. Deep space is his only win imo.
Originally posted by KingDubya
It sort of makes sense that Hulk can reflect gamma rays due to the fact that his powers come from exposure to gamma radiation. He most likely has developed a resistance to gamma rays and can therefore send them back. I doubt he could do anything with magnetism, though.
I understand where you're coming from, but I just wrote this in response to something manjaro posted back on page 63. In that clip he posted hulk said somthing to the effect of "anything that can hulk, mouth monster, can also hurt you." and I was just saying that if this clip is what people were using to say that hulk can grasp forcefields, then any power anyone could use against hulk, is useless because he would just turn it back against them.
Originally posted by KingDubya
*wishes these people would pay attention during English so they can have correct grammar and spelling*
About your comment on the adamantium idea: adamantium is INDESTRUCTIBLE. That means that it never breaks, no matter how much force is exerted. And don't say that nothing is truly indestructible; this is the comic book world we are dealing with. Adamantium doesn't truly exist, so we can say that it's indestructible.
Dubya, I agree w/ you, but a valid argument is: if adamantium is truly indestrucable, then how can Mags manipulate it?
My argument to answer this question is that Adamatium is indestructicble (because it can be in comic book world), and that Mag's power (complete and total control over metal) overrides any characteristics that the metal may innately have (indestrucibility for example). Interesting stuff to think about.
I am still wondering though, where Mags is going to get enough of the stuff to surround Hulk in it? Though he really just needs enough to wrap around Hulk's wrist and lift him off the ground rendering him powerless, and he can get that much off of wolvie's skeleton (though he might get zapped by Xavier if he tries that.) LOL