Magneto vs The Hulk

All still references to past fights with situations of someone beating someone who beat someone. its not a chain reaction. Just cause they beat someone in the past situationally doesn't mean that he could beat the same person not in effect different now.

I still haven't' heard a single thing that would beat Magneto? Not one if its energy then I could just reference Magnetos shield so scratch that. If thats all thats changed then my argument still stands. Nothing so far has shown to stop Magneto from doing what he would in no holds.

Originally posted by dudeseriously
All still references to past fights with situations of someone beating someone who beat someone. its not a chain reaction. Just cause they beat someone in the past situationally doesn't mean that he could beat the same person not in effect different now.

I still haven't' heard a single thing that would beat Magneto? Not one if its energy then I could just reference Magnetos shield so scratch that. If thats all thats changed then my argument still stands. Nothing so far has shown to stop Magneto from doing what he would in no holds.

When has Magneto's shield stopped an atomic bomb like explosion capable of destroying several earth sized planets? I agree with you that Magneto could defeat a Hulk that was holding back, but in this case he isn't, he's going all out, and in such a case Magneto would die. Magneto has never shown an ability to survive a planets destruction if so please indicate such a reference with the book number, title or scan. Onslaught was essentially a more powerful Magneto, so actually he is the perfect character to use in such a case. However we can skip Onslaught altogether, and get down to it.

Magneto ripping the Hulk in two as you said in an earlier post may not even be an option, he may not have the power necessary to rip a Hulk that's ramped up that high due to durability issues.

Magneto power draining the Hulk is also not an option, the Hulk is no longer a part of Banner, and unless Magneto can drain an endless supply of energy, all he'd be setting himself up for while trying this is an earth destroying punch.

Also in case you did not know, the Hulk ramps up to earth shaker in seconds these days, it doesn't take him any time at all, to become an earth crusher.

^^ do u think hulk can smash thru magnetos protective barrier?

I don't run around on numbers go ahead hit Wiki or the pages. Magnetos shield has been known to stop high amounts of energy especially electric even atomic. It has been shown to allow him to survive in space indefinitely by blocking cosmic radiation and keeping air close to him. So yea that energy stuff is scratched.

I don't think the hulks durability persists on an atomic level. He can't magically make atoms less manipulable to Magento.

Oh and again the onslaught thing is scratched. I'll make it simple Onslaught and Magneto is not the same... AT ALL. Again highly situational of SOMEONE WHO BEAT SOMEONE WHO BEAT SOMEONE WHO BEAT SOMEONE.

Watch i'll do the same. Wolverine has stalemated Hulk and Magneto has beaten Wolverine ERGO Magneto beats Hulk. See it just doesn't work that way or else everyone has beaten everyone else indirectly.

So yea still valid.

Originally posted by ozz81
^^ do u think hulk can smash thru magnetos protective barrier?

Do you think that Magneto's protective barrier is more sturdy than a dimensional barrier? Magnetos power is no greater than the planet that he's on, and the Hulk has become far more powerful than a planets magnetic field. so yes he could go through that shield pretty fast.

Originally posted by dudeseriously
I don't run around on numbers go ahead hit Wiki or the pages. Magnetos shield has been known to stop high amounts of energy especially electric even atomic. It has been shown to allow him to survive in space indefinitely by blocking cosmic radiation and keeping air close to him. So yea that energy stuff is scratched.

I don't think the hulks durability persists on an atomic level. He can't magically make atoms less manipulable to Magento.

Oh and again the onslaught thing is scratched. I'll make it simple Onslaught and Magneto is not the same... AT ALL. Again highly situational of SOMEONE WHO BEAT SOMEONE WHO BEAT SOMEONE WHO BEAT SOMEONE.

Watch i'll do the same. Wolverine has stalemated Hulk and Magneto has beaten Wolverine ERGO Magneto beats Hulk. See it just doesn't work that way or else everyone has beaten everyone else indirectly.

So yea still valid.

Magneto is only as powerful as the planets magnetic field, the Hulk is a world destroyer, and would be the last guy that Magneto would want to fight, while not holding back. Magneto will lose this, get used to it. Wolverine beat a Hulk that wasn't pouring it on. Onslaught was Magneto, actually magneto is essentially an incomplete Onslaught. Like I said earlier though we can just bump the Onslaught thing, and get to solid points. I made a few. One is that Magneto would never survive a conflict with the Hulk if he were to let go. All that Magneto would be able to do is run, and hide... Run and Hide.

Originally posted by dudeseriously
I don't run around on numbers go ahead hit Wiki or the pages. Magnetos shield has been known to stop high amounts of energy especially electric even atomic. It has been shown to allow him to survive in space indefinitely by blocking cosmic radiation and keeping air close to him. So yea that energy stuff is scratched.

I don't think the hulks durability persists on an atomic level. He can't magically make atoms less manipulable to Magento.

Oh and again the onslaught thing is scratched. I'll make it simple Onslaught and Magneto is not the same... AT ALL. Again highly situational of SOMEONE WHO BEAT SOMEONE WHO BEAT SOMEONE WHO BEAT SOMEONE.

Watch i'll do the same. Wolverine has stalemated Hulk and Magneto has beaten Wolverine ERGO Magneto beats Hulk. See it just doesn't work that way or else everyone has beaten everyone else indirectly.

So yea still valid.

I'll concede if you can reference one time, that Magneto was shown to be able to survive an explosion capable of destroying several planets.

Yea several times Magneto has been shown away from earth in space in fact. His magnetic power does in fact NOT rely on the planet sorry again but scratched. And yea hulk could smash his shield lol I don't dispute that but his little energy thing thats scratched.

Magneto controls Electromagnetic energy or if you will unified field theory. Not limited to the planet but to available energy. And in fact cosmic electromagnetic energy is VERY powerful capable of killing a normal person very rapidly it would be a heck of a weapon not that hulk can survive in space which magneto can. So hulk destroys earth = HULK INSTA LOSES!!! lol so go ahead with that.

Yea tough but its true in fact hulk has been beat before a few times. Every character in a comic is beaten one time or another. Just to many ways for Mags to pull it off.

Originally posted by dudeseriously
Yea several times Magneto has been shown away from earth in space in fact. His magnetic power does in fact NOT rely on the planet sorry again but scratched. And yea hulk could smash his shield lol I don't dispute that but his little energy thing thats scratched.

Magneto controls Electromagnetic energy or if you will unified field theory. Not limited to the planet but to available energy. And in fact cosmic electromagnetic energy is VERY powerful capable of killing a normal person very rapidly it would be a heck of a weapon not that hulk can survive in space which magneto can. So hulk destroys earth = HULK INSTA LOSES!!! lol so go ahead with that.

Yea tough but its true in fact hulk has been beat before a few times. Every character in a comic is beaten one time or another. Just to many ways for Mags to pull it off.

Hulk can actually survive in space, so as you put it scratch that. Magneto surviving an explosion that could take out several planetary masses is pure BS, so scratch that.

Not saying that the Hulk has not lost before, he just wouldn't be losing to Magneto so scratch that. You really need to come up with some concrete evidence to support these wild stories and claims. I know that Magneto is powerful, be he would be way out of his class is if fought this Newer and more powerful version of the Hulk. Did you know that weaker versions of the Hulk have actually survived huge losses of bodily material which included organs like his heart? kept talking like it was nothing after being stabbed in his eyes by adamantium claws? Honestly Magneto could beat a weaker version of the Hulk, but if the Hulk didn't hold back, the very energy that poured off of him would be enough to blow Magneto away like a fly in an tornado.

Lol I have dude all you keep saying is "scratch that" no evidence you just don't like the fact it makes sense and works. Face it Hulk isn't the invincible thing you wish he was. He has weaknesses and Magneto has powers.

Instead of just saying "He's THE HULK and therefore wins" get over the fact that he is beatable same as magneto like I said earlier rock paper scissors. All about how their powers work.

Oh and electromagnetism allows him to change polarities like - and + meaning the energy thing wouldn't work cause he could simply reverse the polarity to make it effecting. Ya know about frequencies or energies in that several radiations and energies are part of the electromagnetic spectrum meaning Magneto could counteract and manipulate it or block it like several energy based attacks with his shield.

Been fun but I guess your just riding the Hulk train now.

Originally posted by dudeseriously
Lol I have dude all you keep saying is "scratch that" no evidence you just don't like the fact it makes sense and works. Face it Hulk isn't the invincible thing you wish he was. He has weaknesses and Magneto has powers.

Instead of just saying "He's THE HULK and therefore wins" get over the fact that he is beatable same as magneto like I said earlier rock paper scissors. All about how their powers work.

Oh and electromagnetism allows him to change polarities like - and + meaning the energy thing wouldn't work cause he could simply reverse the polarity to make it effecting. Ya know about frequencies or energies in that several radiations and energies are part of the electromagnetic spectrum meaning Magneto could counteract and manipulate it or block it like several energy based attacks with his shield.

Been fun but I guess your just riding the Hulk train now.

You enjoy raising your arms in victory even though you have no concrete evidence to indicate that Magneto would be capable of stopping the Hulk from operating on any level he so chose. Everything that you have offered up has been pure speculation with little to no regard of past showings. So you'll have to excuse anyone from disregarding any claim that you believe that you have concerning Magneto when you have refused to refer to any feats, or comic apperances.

You don't even know how the Hulk's power works or where his power derive, or even how powerful he has become. You seem to be referring to a Hulk that was incapable of controlling his transformations, and this is where you have embarrassed yourself. I almost think that you believe that present day Hulk is a Hulk out of the 70's which he is not, nor would he have trouble tearing through Magneto's shield, and popping the little man within. Until you offer some form of concrete feats, or anything outside of an overactive imagination, you will be ignored.

Originally posted by Stoic
You enjoy raising your arms in victory even though you have no concrete evidence to indicate that Magneto would be capable of stopping the Hulk from operating on any level he so chose. Everything that you have offered up has been pure speculation with little to no regard of past showings. So you'll have to excuse anyone from disregarding any claim that you believe that you have concerning Magneto when you have refused to refer to any feats, or comic apperances.

You don't even know how the Hulk's power works or where his power derive, or even how powerful he has become. You seem to be referring to a Hulk that was incapable of controlling his transformations, and this is where you have embarrassed yourself. I almost think that you believe that present day Hulk is a Hulk out of the 70's which he is not, nor would he have trouble tearing through Magneto's shield, and popping the little man within. Until you offer some form of concrete feats, or anything outside of an overactive imagination, you will be ignored.

Magneto can affect magnetic pole. Big whoop.
Hulk can destroy the planet if he chose to.

Hulk destroy the old fart.

You all are funny arguers 👆

Magneto would win by subduing the Hulk in the same way that Dr. Octopus did. It's just one of the Hulk's weakness', no leverage means he's captured.

But Magneto dosen't have adamantium arms.

And this is the one Marvel VS I would love to see. Just to see which one the MU teams would have to throw under the bus.

I still think that the only characters who could survive in an all out fight to the death with a fully powered Magneto are those who could survive without a physical body or have other EM or fundamental force (except gravity) based powers at the same level. No matter how large or angry hulk became, no matter how fast his healing, I just don't see him surviving being annihilated internally or being sent through a wormhole into a singularity.

Magneto took out Proteus.

I think mags could take this

Originally posted by Wonder Man
Magneto took out Proteus.

Hulk took out Grand Master.