Originally posted by jinzinHe's not fast enough to make them in slow motion either, thats to emphasize movement, he's been shown to deflect them and not to.
i'm not saying wolverine's about to outrun a damn bullet.. but he's been shown to easily deflect them out of the air with his claws...
Captain america does it alot, but the bullets ALWAYS hit his shield for some reason.
Hadoken isn't a bullet so...
Originally posted by SpelljammerKind of like this
I'm hired muscle by the goverment Spiderman! Your creepy crawler ass is going down!Can't we talk about this? I'm a photographer and my wife's a super model. Put two and two together..
Math is for non-men! HADOKEN! *Ryu launches a bad ass ki blast which Spidey has to jump away from and slings around with his web shooters and attempts to restrain Ryu with the webs and stands next to him stuck to a building*
[b]Ryu:
Spiderman: Now you'll have to li--*Ryu breaks free and in a blur switches positions and hurls a kick at Spiderman's abodomen and he's hurt but not out and reacts by flinging more webbing and swinging across the building to launch his own kick into Ryu's jaw then shooting webbing at his foot and swinging him round and round letting go to make him go flying into a nearby dumpster trashheap. Ryu quickly recovers and launces another hadoken which Spiderman just barely dodges. Hadoken after Hadoken, only making Ryu grow more fatigue, eventualy, Ryu knows he can't keepup with Spiderman's speed, and has to comeup with a plan*
Ryu: *Spiderman jumps infront of Ryu and with a jab to the face knocks him out cold and leaves him tied upside down wrapped in webbing with a sign that says "arrest me"*Oh yeah.. [/B]
Originally posted by jinzinWe aren't going to start using PIS again to support our arguments, after wolverine has problems with daredevil and an old guy with a cane.
a hadoken isn't a bullet you're right about that.. it's also not nearly as fast as a bullet.. or destructive as a hulk punch..
Wolverine isn't a hulk level character, bottom line, he just isn't. You got a character who has done some of the most amazing things in marvel, and a superstar character taking his blows without falling, later in his career.
Remember some of those "glancing" blows? Yea.
Originally posted by jinzin
a hadoken isn't a bullet you're right about that.. it's also not nearly as fast as a bullet.. or destructive as a hulk punch..
but ryu wont shoot his hadouken like bullets, he would wait untill spider let his guard open for shoot him .And if spider man receive a hulk punch he will be turn on a pizza.
plot induced stupidity.. when a character or event does something that logically shouldn't happen for the advancement of the plot...
wolverine taking hulk punches is not random nor recent.. he's been doing it since his first appearance.. and I'm not talking about the galancing blow.. how about when hulk chucked him to the ground with an I quote "shattering force"? hmmmmm.
face it, the guy can take punches from bricks.. just cause you don't like it, it doesn't change the fact..
Originally posted by jinzinBut we are going to neglect the history of another character?
plot induced stupidity.. when a character or event does something that logically shouldn't happen for the advancement of the plot...wolverine taking hulk punches is not random nor recent.. he's been doing it since his first appearance.. and I'm not talking about the galancing blow.. how about when hulk chucked him to the ground with an I quote "shattering force"? hmmmmm.
face it, the guy can take punches from bricks.. just cause you don't like it, it doesn't change the fact..
We've had this talk, occurences doesn't dictate pic, and wolverine can take punches from bricks.
Batman has hit flash before, flash gets hit by boomerangs, are we going to take that part of history and use it exclusively.
Its just that you make it seem like hulk can BARELY beat him when we know that is far from the case.
dude.. did i say hulk can barely beat him? 🤨
not at all.. what I've been saying is that wolverine can take brick hits.. and he can and has no matter how many times you claim otherwise.. your opinion on the matter does not dictate the capabilities of the character...
again bringin up flash and boomerangs when you've nothing else to say...
well other people have already tried to explain to you HOW those events have taken place.. but you haven't listened to them, so I heavily doubt you'll listen to me...
Originally posted by jinzin
dude.. did i say hulk can barely beat him? 🤨
You in many threads have convinced yourself that he was a stutter step away from him, and if he had only a strength boost, that he could take hulk, and guys like wrecker and such.
So yes, you consistently use evidence where wolverine "almost killed" hulk, or hulk got a "cheap shot" on wolverine.
While neglecting otherwise.
Originally posted by jinzin
not at all.. what I've been saying is that wolverine can take brick hits..
When did I not say this? Go find where I said he couldn't and point this out to me, thanks.
Originally posted by jinzin
and he can and has no matter how many times you claim otherwise.. your opinion on the matter does not dictate the capabilities of the character...
Um I didnt claim otherwise, but there is a vast difference in the bricks from marvel universe.
Comically of course he can take them and not flinch.
Logically he's gone in a different state, period.
In fact I remember you by your OWN admission saying that anyone class 60 and up will ko him.
Do you understand what a concussion is? Or the difference in types of damage?
Originally posted by jinzin
again bringin up flash and boomerangs when you've nothing else to say...
You don't remember the correlation between pis/ frequency. I am sincerely convinced that you aren't sure of the definition, because you say stuff like wolverine catching guys that move at light speed.
At least you arent that guy saying wolverine beats lobo, because he DID.
Originally posted by jinzin
well other people have already tried to explain to you HOW those events have taken place.. but you haven't listened to them, so I heavily doubt you'll listen to me...
I've tried to explain to you that wolverine can be indeed taken down in various ways, many superheroes have taken hits from hulk.
Spiderman, DD, and Cap.
I guess that means that anything LESS than that particular amount of damage is rendered ineffective, hmm?
Do you see whats wrong with using that premise?
it's not my fault that SINCE HIS FIRST FRIGGIN APPEARANCE, wolverine has given hulk a hell of a hard time... the fact of that matter is that wolverine really only needs a decent strength boost to become about 200% more battle effective, and it's been proven on several occasions.. again. not my fault.. you seem to think that my conclusions that I've made about the characters we're discussing are simply one's I've just made up in my head when that's not the case... all you do, all you ever do is argue how you want the characters to be, how you think they should be.. but it simply doesn't work like that.. characters are associated with the things that they have done.. and with the exception of hyperboles, we begin to develop an understanding of said character from consistent feats.. logan taking it mano y mano to hulk is one of them... if it wasn't... then why in the hell does wolverine have a winning record over hulk according to marvel? 🤨
I use evidence of wolverine taking it to hulk to show that he can indeed do it despite what most people may think.. but even I've conceded logan should be losing 7 out of 10.
I use the "chap shot" argument because I can tell that you are making an inference on a situation where your will to comment on said situation was more powerful than your knowledge to do so, even though your inference is misleading and incorrect.. I'm trying to help you further understand how those events came about rather than sit here and let you only use those parts of events that you think are relivent...
(since I can't take you off ignore..I can't quote you) but you constantly insinuate that wolverine can't take brick shots.. like in your post above.. about logans recent and random ability to take brick shots... an ability which is neither/nor...
and i admitted that if logan were to just stand there and let a super strong character hit him in the face without fighting back, or moving.. that it becomes more likely than not that he'll get KOed by a 60 ton lifter.. in a fight that changes dramatically...
and yes I understand what a concussion is.. what you don't seem to understand is that logan doesn't get them from even brick shots.. perhaps it's lack of acceptance, perhaps both... meh...
I only say things like wolverine catching light speed characters.. when the equally retarded "spiderman will dodge everything ever" argument starts to become apparent.. and to demonstrate that logan does indeed have some amount of skill/speed/and reflexes to be able to do that in the first place....
i have no argument that wolverine can be taken down, it's just that in these battles both characters are at their best (not just the anti-wolverine protagonist as is always assumed) and in that notion, taking wolvie down is something that's very very hard to do...
now as far as your last statement.. dd and cap have nothing to little to do with this debate so i fail to see their relivence.. they've taken glancing blows from him, nothing more.. but they also have other factors that helped in their survival....
now the only way that conclusion you made works is if my premise was that hulks blows were innefectual against wolverine... but that's not the case whatsoever.... it's just that wolverine has several tools which help him to keep taking the blows and wheather the damage that's being done to him so that he can take some more....