Originally posted by jinzin
it's not my fault that SINCE HIS FIRST FRIGGIN APPEARANCE, wolverine has given hulk a hell of a hard time... the fact of that matter is that wolverine really only needs a decent strength boost to become about 200% more battle effective, and it's been proven on several occasions.. again. not my fault.. you seem to think that my conclusions that I've made about the characters we're discussing are simply one's I've just made up in my head when that's not the case... all you do, all you ever do is argue how you want the characters to be, how you think they should be.. but it simply doesn't work like that.. characters are associated with the things that they have done.. and with the exception of hyperboles, we begin to develop an understanding of said character from consistent feats.. logan taking it mano y mano to hulk is one of them... if it wasn't... then why in the hell does wolverine have a winning record over hulk according to marvel? 🤨I use evidence of wolverine taking it to hulk to show that he can indeed do it despite what most people may think.. but even I've conceded logan should be losing 7 out of 10.
I use the "chap shot" argument because I can tell that you are making an inference on a situation where your will to comment on said situation was more powerful than your knowledge to do so, even though your inference is misleading and incorrect.. I'm trying to help you further understand how those events came about rather than sit here and let you only use those parts of events that you think are relivent...
(since I can't take you off ignore..I can't quote you) but you constantly insinuate that wolverine can't take brick shots.. like in your post above.. about logans recent and random ability to take brick shots... an ability which is neither/nor...
and i admitted that if logan were to just stand there and let a super strong character hit him in the face without fighting back, or moving.. that it becomes more likely than not that he'll get KOed by a 60 ton lifter.. in a fight that changes dramatically...
and yes I understand what a concussion is.. what you don't seem to understand is that logan doesn't get them from even brick shots.. perhaps it's lack of acceptance, perhaps both... meh...
I only say things like wolverine catching light speed characters.. when the equally retarded "spiderman will dodge everything ever" argument starts to become apparent.. and to demonstrate that logan does indeed have some amount of skill/speed/and reflexes to be able to do that in the first place....
i have no argument that wolverine can be taken down, it's just that in these battles both characters are at their best (not just the anti-wolverine protagonist as is always assumed) and in that notion, taking wolvie down is something that's very very hard to do...
now as far as your last statement.. dd and cap have nothing to little to do with this debate so i fail to see their relivence.. they've taken glancing blows from him, nothing more.. but they also have other factors that helped in their survival....
now the only way that conclusion you made works is if my premise was that hulks blows were innefectual against wolverine... but that's not the case whatsoever.... it's just that wolverine has several tools which help him to keep taking the blows and wheather the damage that's being done to him so that he can take some more....
Jinzin what the hell are you talking about?
Where did I say he couldn't take brick shots.
You by your own admission have said these things, and its not about "what happened", you can type long posts about one characters history and completely ignore the other.
To top it off little of your posts go with the rules.
How I want them to be? Well its a logical match, and that is used by reason to induce, using crossover matches and discarding commons sense when it suits you doesnt help.
You want to look at wolverine's history, well how about hulks. 'The character that has stretched the cosmic cube? You constantly make wolverine out to be more durable than a mountain, and fueling your arguments with blatantly bad writing.
For example, namor. You ignore the OBVIOUS commons sense that the character can simply fly away and at LEAST stalemate wolverine, and favor it for matches that are plain stupid writings.
Namor lifts over 100 tons, wolverine weighs 300 lbs, do the math. Obviously marvel didn't.
I like you and all but its like you seem to think that characters can do these same things abiding by the rules, you need to stop amping lightweighters beyond their abilities. I also found it cute how cyke has owned wolverine multiple times IN the comic and people still complained.
Oh and for the record, wolverine HAS taken a glancing blow from hulk, and fell out. Like he logically should, because no matter how high the damage is and he gets back, once he's ko'ed he's koe'd
Wolverine isn't hte only marvel character to be hit by bricks, stop acting like he is.
He isn't a better fighter than ryu, nor stronger, nor anything, but he still somehow wins.
Okey dokey.
Oh and why doesn't wolverine get a concussion?
Humor me...
