Originally posted by black robbA non-616 Wolverine that lived back in Conan's time and never had a chance to learn all the things that the 616 wolverine learned?
so....he still got his ass kicked by Conan
I mean there was no CIA weapon X program (how he still had metal claws I'm guessing was a magic thing) no japan so no Samurai /martial arts . . .
Yeah, good example. . .
Originally posted by Creshosk
A non-616 Wolverine that lived back in Conan's time and never had a chance to learn all the things that the 616 wolverine learned?I mean there was no CIA weapon X program (how he still had metal claws I'm guessing was a magic thing) no japan so no Samurai /martial arts . . .
Yeah, good example. . .
If you are referring to the "What if" storyline [as I doubt they actually met beyond that], this Wolverine came out of a battle during the Dark Phoenix saga where while on Shi'ar territory, he accidentally falls into a dome that a Watcher is playing homage to. Instead of being shot out like normal continuum, he is transported to the past and to Conan's time.
He meets Red Sonja and accidentally confuses her temporarily with Jean. After a brief fight (which she loses horribly), they befriend only to have Conan appear later when they were having a meal. Wolverine fights him and Conan believes him to be demon when he loses his standard weapon. In order to protect himself, he acquires another weapon bestowed from the fake "priest?" and eventually blugeon Wolverine on the back of the neck and breaking it (his weapon) to put him out of commission. Wolverine later comes back partly brain damaged to look for Red Sonja (captured by Conan) and in another brief fight goes in his beserker to disable Conan (slit his wrist) before rescuing the damsel.
As this Wolverine WAS from our timeline originally, he definitely had the experience (ninja training, CIA, etc.), but just didn't fully utilize it. But somewhat in his defense, Conan is no standard warrior either, especially for one who fights demons and the like all the time.
Originally posted by radioboy121Yeah, that part was an ultra-load of BS.
eventually blugeon Wolverine on the back of the neck and breaking it (his weapon) to put him out of commission. Wolverine later comes back partly brain damaged
How and where did this wolverine get hit in the back of the neck to be taken down like that?
Not only that, but that shot didn't work on 616 Wolverine.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeah, that part was an ultra-load of BS.How and where did this wolverine get hit in the back of the neck to be taken down like that?
Not only that, but that shot didn't work on 616 Wolverine.
Maybe, but the object in question was much larger than Silver Samurai's sword and Conan is also much stronger too. Neck/head slapping against Wolverine has often been used as a means to pretty much knock him out. (i.e. Colossus doing this in Murderworld or in another What if, Hulk doing this permanently to kill him).
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Without any enhanced physical traits Psylocke and Cyclops are excellent fighters exclusive of their powers. Wolverine normally has (very slightly) enhanced physical traits, claws, an unbreakable skeleton, enhanced senses and a healing factor all contributing to his regular ability to fight. He doesn't have any of those here.
yeah, i think evthere, but storm si aslo an excellent fighter w/out her powers.
Originally posted by radioboy121Collosus didn't knock Wolverine out in Murderworld.
Maybe, but the object in question was much larger than Silver Samurai's sword and Conan is also much stronger too. Neck/head slapping against Wolverine has often been used as a means to pretty much knock him out. (i.e. Colossus doing this in Murderworld or in another What if, Hulk doing this permanently to kill him).
Originally posted by Creshosk
Collosus didn't knock Wolverine out in Murderworld.
I believe he did. You only posted the pic of the beginning encounter with the brainwashed Colossus. Much later in the comic, he swats Banshee, then Wolverine before choking Storm and Cyclops. They only manage to escape this when Storm convinces Colossus that he's like a brother to her.
Originally posted by radioboy121Then why don't you post the picture where Colossus knocked him out?
I believe he did. You only posted the pic of the beginning encounter with the brainwashed Colossus. Much later in the comic, he swats Banshee, then Wolverine before choking Storm and Cyclops. They only manage to escape this when Storm convinces Colossus that he's like a brother to her.
ok what if dont count. also I wanna just state that wolverine claws can go throu colossus it been shown plenty times that colossus is a fraid of wolevrines claws I knwo it ahs nuthing to do with the thread but it been bugging me. any ways I think storm is better fighter in hand to hand then cyclopes and has shown a good many times that she is.
Originally posted by wolverine8888No they don't, When wolverine tried to cut colossus all he got was sparks.
ok what if dont count. also I wanna just state that wolverine claws can go throu colossus it been shown plenty times that colossus is a fraid of wolevrines claws I knwo it ahs nuthing to do with the thread but it been bugging me. any ways I think storm is better fighter in hand to hand then cyclopes and has shown a good many times that she is.
why does colossus always run from wolverines claws then? I normal don't say abd wright but wolverine nclaws would not make sparks at all that would mean his claw thou u cant see it would be getting damage which it can't. also i not making it up colossus has on many occassion told wolverien to watch it with those claws around him. also wolverine was ocne thrown into colossus by stryfe and wolverine claws cut right throu colossus. colossus durablity is only a level 6 u know.
Originally posted by radioboy121thank you
If you are referring to the "What if" storyline [as I doubt they actually met beyond that], this Wolverine came out of a battle during the Dark Phoenix saga where while on Shi'ar territory, he accidentally falls into a dome that a Watcher is playing homage to. Instead of being shot out like normal continuum, he is transported to the past and to Conan's time.He meets Red Sonja and accidentally confuses her temporarily with Jean. After a brief fight (which she loses horribly), they befriend only to have Conan appear later when they were having a meal. Wolverine fights him and Conan believes him to be demon when he loses his standard weapon. In order to protect himself, he acquires another weapon bestowed from the fake "priest?" and eventually blugeon Wolverine on the back of the neck and breaking it (his weapon) to put him out of commission. Wolverine later comes back partly brain damaged to look for Red Sonja (captured by Conan) and in another brief fight goes in his beserker to disable Conan (slit his wrist) before rescuing the damsel.
As this Wolverine WAS from our timeline originally, he definitely had the experience (ninja training, CIA, etc.), but just didn't fully utilize it. But somewhat in his defense, Conan is no standard warrior either, especially for one who fights demons and the like all the time.
Originally posted by Creshoskradio just found out for me that that was 616 Wolvie so i take that sh*t back i was right
A non-616 Wolverine that lived back in Conan's time and never had a chance to learn all the things that the 616 wolverine learned?I mean there was no CIA weapon X program (how he still had metal claws I'm guessing was a magic thing) no japan so no Samurai /martial arts . . .
Yeah, good example. . .
Originally posted by wolverine8888It's still 616 Wolverine up until the time travel point. Does he lose his fighting prowess when he goes back in time? No so it is pretty much Wolverine.Just because you think its inconsistent doesnt mean anything. With that logic any story could be a what if just considering his wavering power and fighting skills.
it a what if comic liek i have explained it proves nuthing there a what if comic of wolverine killing every major villian in the world
...Sigh.
Wolverine can't cut Colossus. Can't do it in 616, can't do it in Ultimate...he just can't do it.
I'm sure Colossus just doesn't like Wolverine scraping up his shiny, metallic body. That's why he's always telling Wolverine to watch out.
Wolverien can't cut him. It's as simple as that. Show me one scan, just one, that shows that he can, and I'll concede.