Khellendros vs. Newjak

Started by Scoobless8 pages
Originally posted by Khellendros
I just... don't get why this is so hard to say in a way that you can understand. Sight doesn't WORK like that. Look... say you see a cow in a field. It's the only cow in the field, so it kinda stands out. Now, say you look away, and the cow runs halfway across the field. When you look up, has the cow just DISAPPEARED? No. It's just in a slightly different place, but it's still within your field of vision. That's how this works. Just because I stop seeing you for a SPLIT SECOND doesn't mean you will have disappeared from sight.

Cows are some sneaky f**kers!

Originally posted by Scoobless
Cows are some sneaky f**kers!
Scoob can't remember di you vote already

Originally posted by newjak86
Scorpion has Spiderman like agility

no he doesn't, he is a little stronger than Spidey, not as fast and nowhere near as agile

Originally posted by Scoobless
no he doesn't, he is a little stronger than Spidey, not as fast and nowhere near as agile
Yes but this is him ehanced quite a bit with DS who already is a great dodger.

Originally posted by newjak86
Scoob can't remember di you vote already

not yet

Originally posted by Scoobless
not yet
kool so anyone you leaning towards right now.

Vote count
Khell: 6
Stormfront
Drizzle
Darkcrawler
Xmarksthespot
Adam Warlock(Still could change his mind)
Nataku(Same as Warlock)
Newjak86: 0
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Edit: This is not looking good for the Jak of the New can he pull out a win well I hope some of those people who voted eariler will come back on and maybe rethink it. Anyway I will not loose faith I still got a shot a Scoob thats all I need.

i vote for Newjak since u were one of my best customers in the pub. (which by the way im reopening again so everyone come pick a char and check it out (im Genis, the bartender))

Originally posted by newjak86
I'm not turning my head to one side completely I have side vision as well plus new fact the Helmet can record a 360 degree view just to let you know.

Oh wow, it record in 360?? OKay, well, you just stand there watching recordings of where I WAS and I'll be back here blowing you away.

Originally posted by newjak86
Hate to tell you this I'm not bigger than a cow and we're not in a field plus I will know where you are at before you know where I'm at.

You aren't a cow but you will be the biggest thing moving around out there. And you might as well be in a field since I can see through solid matter.

Originally posted by newjak86
Your whole idea revolves around you teleporting to one place and scanning the distance with your view hoping to catch a glimpse of me not knowing where I'm at.

You missed the point again. I WILL know where you are, I just have to look in the same area you were before I teleported.

Originally posted by newjak86
You are using a method where you have to be looking at me and even then hope that you don't overlook me even still if you get lucky to be looking in my direction while I already know where you are at and can stay out of your view easily.

So, here I am shooting at someone I can plainly see, and you're just going to be shooting in the direction you hear a sound? Yeah, good plan. Also, just because you have a general idea of where I am doesn't mean you know where I'm looking. Like I said, you have nowhere to hide from me.

Originally posted by newjak86
Most of my weapons are then very silent and can penetrate you like nothing. My spear for instance can travel self porpelled with my added strength and makes almost no noise. By the time you even think a weapon has touched you it will be through the back of your skull.

One, you won't know where to throw the spear if you're jsut going by sound, so I hope that sucker has an auto-return function. Second you will never, EVER get a chance to hit me from behind. If I think for a SECOND that you're behind me, I'll just teleport somwhere else. Third you've forgotten my shield. Even if by some freakish miracle you get a clean shot at me, your spear will just bounce off my shield.

Originally posted by newjak86
I have a guy that tangled with the JLA moved fast enough to take out Zantana before she ever said a word.

Oh man, now that is impressive! Man.. what do I have that can match that... Oh, right, here's Midnighter hitting the new Doctor before he can eve attack him. And the Doctor doesn't have to speak to use magic.
http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=skill17xr.jpg

Originally posted by newjak86
Scorpion has Spiderman like agility.

😂 Keep saying it, it's still not true.

Originally posted by newjak86
DS for all purposes has instant reaction time like what he showed against Flash.

No, he has excellent prep skills like what he showed against Flash.

Originally posted by newjak86
Yes yes I have a guy whose base is better than Gargan I am more than Scorpion ever was and at least twice him.

Keep saying it, no one is buying it though.

Originally posted by newjak86
Plus that stuff doesn't bounce around and it is only a few extra pounds when considering I'm at least class 30 that really won't matter to me.

It does since Deathstroke, your base, is used to only wearing chainmail. Now you've got a stifling rubber suit clunky Pred armor and two big humps on your back. I'm not saying the weight is going to slow him down, but it will throw his balance off.

Originally posted by newjak86
It has always been shown that Spiderman can just avoid him do to Scorpion's being an idoit and his Spier Sense which you don't have by the way so unless you see my attack you won't know I hit you till it's to late.

Being an idiot doesn't make him slow. Face it, he is not in Spidey's class for agility or speed.

Originally posted by newjak86
Yes one did an Elder Pred did and guess what Elders normally take on packs of Aliens no problem what I am getting at is my guy an Elder Pred has a thousand years of exprience more than any of your guys.

Thousands of years? Reeeaaaallly. From the first website Digi posted for you:
The Yautja lifespan is many decades, sometimes as long as 300 years. This longevity suggests that sons live with their mothers for many of these years, as it would take longer for them to mature and fend for themselves.

Thousands of years, eh? 😂

Originally posted by newjak86
He has also trained with these weapons quite a bit so your little sniper that can shoot 3000 feet nothing compared to my guy

Prove it. Show me a Predator shooting and hitting something from even ONE thousand feet.

Originally posted by newjak86
Thats funny because the miles I can scan you from is alot more than ten football fields.

Again, prove it. I can show a link saying military snipers are trained to hit targets 1000 yards (3000 feet) away. Can you show me something that says your scanners reach farther?

Originally posted by newjak86
Wrong the are discribed as mini Nukes they aren't mini nukes though they are something other than what any human knowledge is capable of understanding. And Plasma Casters are discribed as Pred's most powerful weapons and when considering that they carry hand held wepons where one shot is like a naplam bomb going off and are desribed as putting out immense power than yes they are stronger that anything you git prtoectiong you.

Right. From that first site again:
Self-Destruct Device
There are many uses for the control panel, such as changing vision modes, but the most remembered use is the self-destruct mechanism that can be activated through this device.
This weapon of last resort is used by warriors to keep honor when they die. After the device has been set, there is a one-minute countdown until the detonation of a micro-nuclear explosion.

From the other site you posted later:
SELF-DESTRUCT SEQUENCE
This weapon of last resort is used by warriors to keep the honor when they die. After the arm mounted device is set, there is a one minute countdown until a micro nuclear weapon is detonated, destroying everything in a 200 acre radius. The device becomes part of the armor suit and can be disabled.

Originally posted by newjak86
I'm only wearing one armor. The Scorpion Suit is Steel woven Fibers basically Cloth Then Chain Mail is Chainl mail it is also basically cloth.

😆 Right. Go put on a chain mail shirt and wear it around for a day and then you come back and try saying it's just like cloth again. It's heavy and uncomfortable, it can restrict your movement, and it'll barely fit over your little rubber suit.

Originally posted by newjak86
The only real Armor I'm wearing is my Pred Armor which will go nicely over the others.

Yes, and leaves your abdomen nice and open except for the chainmail. Your gut is gonna look like a friggin waffle when I'm done.

Originally posted by newjak86
And the only other tactic you have given is tleporting

It's the only tactic I need (sorry, cut the rest out, but its not like you haven't said the same thign over and over again).

Originally posted by newjak86
Edit: This is not looking good for the Jak of the New can he pull out a win well I hope some of those people who voted eariler will come back on and maybe rethink it. Anyway I will not loose faith I still got a shot a Scoob thats all I need.

Yeah, I wouldn't worry. there are still plenty of people who don't like me out there.

I think Khellendros has the edge in this one. I vote for Khell.

Oh wow, it record in 360?? OKay, well, you just stand there watching recordings of where I WAS and I'll be back here blowing you away.
Yeah and I will know where you are at before you know where I am.
You aren't a cow but you will be the biggest thing moving around out there. And you might as well be in a field since I can see through solid matter.
Yeah right I'm sneaking know where you are at and you have to see me first I can still as a statue if I think you even have a chance of seeing me and don't forget I still know where you are at before you can even find me.
You missed the point again. I WILL know where you are, I just have to look in the same area you were before I teleported.
Face it you are usiung a flawed method to find me. You are using vision while I already know where you are at yeah I think I can keep out of you r sight long before you even have achance to find me in the first place. And even still I will know where you are at after you teleport before you know where I'm at so I cn still hit you first. Oh by the way I know bwhere you are at by the disturbance you make then it is simple I can look in your direction which unlike you I know exactly where your at. I can stay out of you field of vision just fine.
One, you won't know where to throw the spear if you're jsut going by sound, so I hope that sucker has an auto-return function. Second you will never, EVER get a chance to hit me from behind. If I think for a SECOND that you're behind me, I'll just teleport somwhere else. Third you've forgotten my shield. Even if by some freakish miracle you get a clean shot at me, your spear will just bounce off my shield.
one yes I will the diustrubance you make tells me eactly where you are at and then looking at you is quite easy since my visions make your little Sniper mode look like a third world country radar system compared to well an Alien designed system far beyond you. Second how will you know your behind me when as you said so yourself you are focused on me trying to find me and you have no clue I know where you are at. Third your force field as stated by Tourney rules can not be higher than titanium so all my weapons will go through it like a hot knife through butter. Wondering how well my little spear is made of a metal tougher than any on Earth it is basiclly the same as my armor so it is Uber Metal mixed with my throwing power and the fact it is also self propelled then it will go through you like nothing. I mean instant death before you even know what hit you.
Keep saying it, it's still not true.
Say what you will does Scorpion not posses agility that is far beyond s imple human or even most street level guys.
Thousands of years? Reeeaaaallly. From the first website Digi posted for you:
quote:
The Yautja lifespan is many decades, sometimes as long as 300 years. This longevity suggests that sons live with their mothers for many of these years, as it would take longer for them to mature and fend for themselves.

Thousands of years, eh?

Was this before or after the fact one Elder Pred visted Earth in the 16 century and hunted in fuedal Japan and loved the two sword fighting so much he adoptted it and was described as still using it today. Let me since he was an Elder than and that was 500 years ago then Yes they can live for a thousand years.
Prove it. Show me a Predator shooting and hitting something from even ONE thousand feet. Again, prove it. I can show a link saying military snipers are trained to hit targets 1000 yards (3000 feet) away. Can you show me something that says your scanners reach farther?
Are you trying to tell me that Earth trained Snipers are better than an Elder Pred when in comics Space Marines are always made mince meat by a normal Predator. Oh by the way yes I can since the Audio Wavelength can upgrade my hearing to being able to hear whispers at 500 feet could be more but then the hunter runs the risk of haveing their ear drums injured. Well let me 500 feet a whisper I bet I could hear a normal voice at at least 3X times that and a louder sound at 3X times That and a very very loud sound at I don't know 4 or 5X that. Since it is the Audio Wavelgnth that does this then the furtherest I can hear sound is it's range and since my hearing could be boosted more I bet it is defently within anywhere you can teleport.
Right. From that first site again:
quote:
Self-Destruct Device
There are many uses for the control panel, such as changing vision modes, but the most remembered use is the self-destruct mechanism that can be activated through this device.
This weapon of last resort is used by warriors to keep honor when they die. After the device has been set, there is a one-minute countdown until the detonation of a micro-nuclear explosion.

From the other site you posted later:
quote:
SELF-DESTRUCT SEQUENCE
This weapon of last resort is used by warriors to keep the honor when they die. After the arm mounted device is set, there is a one minute countdown until a micro nuclear weapon is detonated, destroying everything in a 200

Yeah they are micro Nuclear weapons so they are very strong and still the shoulder mounted plasma caster is described as their strongest weapon.
Right. Go put on a chain mail shirt and wear it around for a day and then you come back and try saying it's just like cloth again. It's heavy and uncomfortable, it can restrict your movement, and it'll barely fit over your little rubber suit.
Yeah and DS would still be stronger than me Chainmail will go over my rubber suit nicely and DS fights in it all the time and does pretty good so I bet it really won't botehr him now will it.
Yes, and leaves your abdomen nice and open except for the chainmail. Your gut is gonna look like a friggin waffle when I'm done.
Yeah and that is a target about what one and half feet wide at the most and I'm moveing around and shooting back and the fact I know where the attack is coming from and with DS's reaction time yes I can perfectly dodge your asttacks.
Once again how will you find in a fool proof mannor like I can you I can easily avoid you easily find you and you have know idea where I am at. Go ahead and teleport to a vantage point it will be that much easier to take your head clean off.

Originally posted by K Von Doom
I think Khellendros has the edge in this one. I vote for Khell.
People he has a flawed tactic to find me it isn't even guaranteed while mine is. He can't hurt me unless he hits me in one spot with only one of his attacks any of my attacks hit and he's done for. His portal shield isn't fool proof as he can not catch all of my ataacks maybe one doubtful but possible two but three no way. Plus his only way of getting away from me is gone because once he teleports I still know where he is. His guy is good but my guy can kill him dodge anything he throws and kill him in one hit. His only chance of winning isn't even that good.
Khell:I teleport around even though you know where I am and I shoot one spot on your entire body while your moving and looking at me even if I cann't find you first to do it.
He has no chance against me. No chance. His guy is built to win these thing early and have his tleportation keep him from danger and it can't against me at all. He is done finished.

Originally posted by newjak86
Vote count
Khell: 6
Stormfront
Drizzle
Darkcrawler
Xmarksthespot
Adam Warlock(Still could change his mind)
Nataku(Same as Warlock)
Newjak86: 0
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Edit: This is not looking good for the Jak of the New can he pull out a win well I hope some of those people who voted eariler will come back on and maybe rethink it. Anyway I will not loose faith I still got a shot a Scoob thats all I need.
I'm sorry I hadn't been in for awhile.

I vote for newjak, good luck bro..

Originally posted by newjak86
Yeah and I will know where you are at before you know where I am.

Light hits the eyes before sound hits the ears. Or helmet. Or whatever.

Originally posted by newjak86
Yeah right I'm sneaking know where you are at and you have to see me first I can still as a statue if I think you even have a chance of seeing me and don't forget I still know where you are at before you can even find me.

You still have to breathe, your heart still has to beat. You still have a body temperature. All standing still means is that I have an easier time hitting you.

Originally posted by newjak86
Oh by the way I know bwhere you are at by the disturbance you make then it is simple I can look in your direction which unlike you I know exactly where your at. I can stay out of you field of vision just fine.

The disturbance I make? Right. Disturbance in what, the Force? Wrong character.

Originally posted by newjak86
then looking at you is quite easy since my visions make your little Sniper mode look like a third world country radar system compared to well an Alien designed system far beyond you.

😂 Your visions? What, are you psychic now, too? Prove your technology works better than mind. I've given proof for my claim, can you do the same? Any scans? Book pages? Anything AT ALL?

Originally posted by newjak86
Third your force field as stated by Tourney rules can not be higher than titanium so all my weapons will go through it like a hot knife through butter.

Prove it. Again, I've proven how strong my shield and symbiote armor are. Toss up some scans of Pred plasma cutting through titanium armor why don'tcha.

Originally posted by newjak86
Wondering how well my little spear is made of a metal tougher than any on Earth it is basiclly the same as my armor so it is Uber Metal mixed with my throwing power and the fact it is also self propelled then it will go through you like nothing.

Hit me like nothing? I agree, I won't feel anything when your little spear bounces off my shield.

Originally posted by newjak86
Was this before or after the fact one Elder Pred visted Earth in the 16 century and hunted in fuedal Japan and loved the two sword fighting so much he adoptted it and was described as still using it today. Let me since he was an Elder than and that was 500 years ago then Yes they can live for a thousand years.

Okay, so now its MAYBE a thousand years (though you've only proven 500+ years), when before you were saying thousands. Great. Try and get your facts straight before you post again, alright?

Originally posted by newjak86
Are you trying to tell me that Earth trained Snipers are better than an Elder Pred when in comics

Well I don't see you proving me wrong. Ball's in your court, all you need is some proof.

Originally posted by newjak86
Space Marines are always made mince meat by a normal Predator.

😂 Guess they need to train their snipers better. Also, Marines are just humans given decent armor and weapons. I'm enhanced human with top of the line armor and shield and an energy weapon that will melt the skin from your bones.

Originally posted by newjak86
Well let me 500 feet a whisper I bet I could hear a normal voice at at least 3X times that and a louder sound at 3X times That and a very very loud sound at I don't know 4 or 5X that.

Please. You'll be LUCKY if I even make a sound as loud as a whisper. And I'll be a lot farther away then 500 feet.

Originally posted by newjak86
Yeah they are micro Nuclear weapons so they are very strong and still the shoulder mounted plasma caster is described as their strongest weapon.

That's because the mini-nuke isn't a weapon so much as it is a safeguard. Still waiting on some proof on the power of those plasma casters.

Originally posted by newjak86
Yeah and that is a target about what one and half feet wide at the most and I'm moveing around and shooting back and the fact I know where the attack is coming from and with DS's reaction time yes I can perfectly dodge your asttacks.

Umm... you do know your abdomen is in the front right? If you turn to shoot at me, that's leaving yourself wide open. But, hey, feel free to turn around and expose that nice, bulging pair of power packs for targetting. 😉

Originally posted by newjak86
People he has a flawed tactic to find me it isn't even guaranteed while mine is.

See, this just shows how flawed your thinking really is, you think hearing someone off in the distance is a better way of hitting them than actually seeing them.

Light hits the eyes before sound hits the ears. Or helmet. Or whatever.
I'm not hearing you I am picking up the disturbances you make in the Aduio Wavelength that my helmet can pick up no problem. So before you can even look at me I already know where you are at.
You still have to breathe, your heart still has to beat. You still have a body temperature. All standing still means is that I have an easier time hitting you.
Like I said only if I think you have a chance of seeing me. Which since I know where you are befor you even have chance to teleport the first time then yes I can avoid you easily as sight is limited to what is in front of you.
The disturbance I make? Right. Disturbance in what, the Force? Wrong character.
Nope right character you just messed up is. All can sense the distburances you make in the Audio Wavelength no Force involved and you cann't hide so yeah your skrewed.
Your visions? What, are you psychic now, too? Prove your technology works better than mind. I've given proof for my claim, can you do the same? Any scans? Book pages? Anything AT ALL?
Nope not psyhic but where your concerned thats what your guy will think. Here let me give you a few of the settings that my guy can filter through. Infrared, Ultraviolet, Thermal Imaging, Low-Light Amplification, and Air Density Pressure (movement). It can also have switches for X-rays and Microwaves. It has a built it Magnetometer and a Geiger Counter. These offer almost unlimited viewing scale to see anything in almost any environment. It also works with the Laser Sight to lock onto targets. Yeah so not only can I know where you are at at all times with the Wavelength Analyzer I can see where you are at no mkatter what trick you use. By the way all you have shown is he used basically X-Ray or infrared which ever it was vision to find a few Snipers through a building which by the way proves that you can see through things a bit and even in the picture he knew what direction to look in and where they are.
Prove it. Again, I've proven how strong my shield and symbiote armor are. Toss up some scans of Pred plasma cutting through titanium armor why don'tcha.
Yet your Armor and Shield can't be tougher than titanium and Pred Metal is stated as being alot tougher than any Earth Bound Metal including Titnaium. Why do you think that government is always trying to caputre Pred tech even in the distant future because it is advanced beyond anything human and tougher than anything human. With my throwing strength and the fact the weapon is also self propelled it will go through you like hot knife through butter.
Oh here
you go For decades, the alien Predators have come to Earth, hunting humans as prey. But their actions haven't gone unnoticed . . . years of research have revealed their secrets. Now, the ultimate strike team of rogues and mercenaries--armed to the teeth with state-of-the-art technology--has banded together to eliminate the Predators . . . permanently.
This is Predator Xenogenisis. Oh by the way this group got completely destroyed and they were carrying state of the art weapons and knew about the predators and they were basically discemated
Hit me like nothing? I agree, I won't feel anything when your little spear bounces off my shield.
Wrong again how is titanium going to stand up to an Uber Metal that is self propelled and being thrown with at least class 30 strength. Even ifif it is only 15 ton like you say it will still hit you and go through you like nothing.
Okay, so now its MAYBE a thousand years (though you've only proven 500+ years), when before you were saying thousands. Great. Try and get your facts straight before you post again, alright?
Like a said a thousand year lifespan I never siad thousands of years show me where I did. He was already old back then by the way and he was still alive at the least he was 700 years.
Well I don't see you proving me wrong. Ball's in your court, all you need is some proof.

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Originally posted by newjak86
Space Marines are always made mince meat by a normal Predator.

Guess they need to train their snipers better. Also, Marines are just humans given decent armor and weapons. I'm enhanced human with top of the line armor and shield and an energy weapon that will melt the skin from your bones.

Whjat are you talking about Space Marines are futuristic versions of the modern soldier. There entire training is better their armor and weapons are beyond anything found today. They basically make the modern soldier look like a Roman legionare. Oh by the way I have weapons that can destroy you in one shot. You have armor that is titanium level way below what any pred weapon would be strained to destroy. And your energy weapon only can hit one spot to beat me a spot that is roughly 1 and half feet wide and maybe a foot tall.
Please. You'll be LUCKY if I even make a sound as loud as a whisper. And I'll be a lot farther away then 500 feet.
You don't get it I don't need you to make a sound. Since you can't control the Audio Wavelength you can not hide from. And you can be further than 500 feet I don't care I will still know where you are at.
Umm... you do know your abdomen is in the front right? If you turn to shoot at me, that's leaving yourself wide open. But, hey, feel free to turn around and expose that nice, bulging pair of power packs for targetting.
Just try and attack the power pack as it is incased in my armor as well. So hit the powerpack all you want no damage at all. Oh by the way I have a spinal protector along my back so your only place to hit me is from the front. Only if I let you even get a shot there.
See, this just shows how flawed your thinking really is, you think hearing someone off in the distance is a better way of hitting them than actually seeing them.
No I think knowing where their at before me is better. Isn't Khell or is standing in one spot hoping to find me a better tactic? 😆

Very good stuff. Retracting my vote for Khell, and voting for Newjak86.

Good stuff. Now it still could go either way.

Imo... it's 5.5 out of 10 for Newjak86.

So it could still change.

Vote count
Khell: 6
Stormfront
Drizzle
Darkcrawler
Xmarksthespot
Nataku(Same as Warlock)
K Von Doom

Newjak86: 3
armandovalles
c-master
Adam Warlock

Just a note. Blink unlike Nightcrawler can teleport "blind". E.g. AoA she teleports Sabretooth and Wild Child to Holocaust without knowing where Holocaust is.