Originally posted by xmarksthespotWhat it is is he can teleport himself and objects thrown at him. That is the extent of his powers with her. I know where he is at though at all times so teleporting is useless he can't catch all three of my attacks. His only way of finding me is seeing me which isn't fool proof unlike my way. Plus his only chance for winninf is to hit me in my gut which is an probably 1 and half feet wide and 1 foot long while I know where he is.
No I mean all this stuff about finding your character. Her powers mean finding people isn't that much of a problem. I don't know if that's been restricted though by Digi.
But when you attack him and he ports your attacks the out portal can open anywhere he wants including right behind you, beside you an inch from your gut etc. I'm going to reread the thread, still voting Khell right now but you've got me "reserving the right to change my vote" now, but like I said the power should arguably let him port to wherever you are.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotBut I know where he is at. the fact is I can luanch my attacks before he ever gets a chance to to settle down after teleporting. Plus he has got to catch three attacks coming at him all at once. Then he has to cope with the fact I am moving around so where I was before he teleported the attacks and after he teleports I won't be.
But when you attack him and he ports your attacks the out portal can open anywhere he wants including right behind you, beside you an inch from your gut etc. I'm going to reread the thread, still voting Khell right now but you've got me "reserving the right to change my vote" now, but like I said the power should arguably let him port to wherever you are.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
But when you attack him and he ports your attacks the out portal can open anywhere he wants including right behind you, beside you an inch from your gut etc. I'm going to reread the thread, still voting Khell right now but you've got me "reserving the right to change my vote" now, but like I said the power should arguably let him port to wherever you are.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
What's all this stuff about cows?
Sorry newjak not changing my vote... for now at least.
Originally posted by KhellendrosNot true because you would be sending them where I was and I'm moving around and trust me my reaction times are at least equal to yours. Plus unlike you I can hit you anywhere and your dead you have to hit me in one spot which is never going to be in the same place twice all while I'm sending three shots at you at the same time. You may be good but I doubt you can catch three attacks at once with your portals. Plus your are serioulsy underestimating the fact that I know where you are before you know where I am. Even if you teleport if you find me to begin with you still have to get your bearings on where I am at. Once the teleportation thing happens though I already know where you are at. If you try to tleport near me you could find yourself teleporting right into a sword that wasn't there when you were looking. Also I can block with my gaulents that one spot and then shoot you with my shoulder cannon or stab you with my tail which as I stated before has a wrist blade attached to it so yeah it has an Uber Metal blade on it which will go through Titanium like nothing. Face it your only attack is a Chi Blast none of your other weapons won't help and you have to hit me in one spot I can hit you in many and win.
Thankyou. That's exactly how it works. Even if he proves his weapons are that badass, all he's doing is saying the weapons fire I'm going to be sending back at him will do damage. With my reaction speeds, he'll never touch me.😂
It was an attempt to explain why him running a few feet in the split second it takes me to teleport from one place to the other doesn't mean he's invisible.
Okay, well, we aren't bringing up many new points, so I'm just going to take this time to restate my side of things using old and new scans.
One thing newjak is saying that that I won't be able to see him. That he can get undercover and just stay still. And yet, here we see Midnighter using his sensors to find two snipers in a skyscraper in the distance, and seeing through the wall to do so. And they were standing still when he saw them.
http://img194.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scanners1xa.jpg
He says he can hear a whisper from 500 feet. Well, here's Midnighter walking undetected no more than ten feet behind a man with enhanced senses. And on a metal walkway no less.
http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stealth45gz.jpg
He says he has powerful weapons, and excellent aim. But here's a woman with her own enhancements built in and an energy weapon, failing to hit an unarmored Midnighter at nearly point blank range. He's even casual about dodging.
http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=speed32cx.jpg
Now, take that reaction time, and give him the ability to do this (redirecting energy): http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vshyperion24dn.jpg , with this kind of skill and agility added to Midnighter: http://img350.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vsannihilus0xl.jpg .
Now, he's said that he's firing with three weapons (staff, shoulder plasma weapon and forearm plasma weapon). Well, even if you forget the fact that to really aim a staff weapon, people tend to use both hands, and that to fire the shoulder mounted weapon he has to be looking right at me, we still have this: Midnighter dodging gunfire and energy blasts at close range while simultaneously taking out multiple enemies. http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vsxmen13ct.jpg
Now, newjak keeps claiming the Predator plasma casters are these uber energy weapons that will penetrate my shield and armor with ease. I have REPEATEDLY asked for proof, and gotten none. So, I've gone looking for myself. Since Nataku thought they were worthy of use in his debate, I picked up the Batman vs Predator books. In only the second issue, I found this interesting tidbit: http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=predshot11so.jpg
If you've seen the Predator movie, you know that that blue light is the shoulder-mounted plasma caster firing. And there you have it. It hits Commisioner Gordon's little revolver, and not only does it NOT melt the gun, it doesn't even make enough heat to cause the bullets to explode. It doesn't even hit with enough force or heat to damage Gordon's hand!
More recently in the debate, newjak has claimed that, because his Predator weapons are alien metal and thus sooo tough, he'll cut through my shield with ease. Well, here we have Batman luring the Predator into a trap, and saying that the bars are too strong for him to cut through. What does the Predator do? Does he use his supposedly godlike weapons to cut down the puny bars anyways? No. He engages his self destruct. He GIVES UP.
http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=predtrapped19kd.jpg
http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=predtrapped29ac.jpg
Now, WHAT does Batman say the bars are made of....? And how strong has Digi said our shields and armor are allowed to be...? Exactly.
I've got three fast, agile, damn skilled martial artists in my amalgam, one of whom teleports instantaneously and another who can blast through armor plating and feet thick slabs of stone. He has one excellent fighter, one idiot, and an alien who spends half its time fighting while invisible (which isn't an option here). I've proven I can dodge or redirect anything he can toss at me, and that my shields and armor will stand up to his weapons. I've proven I can see him no matter where he is and yet move in utter silence. There is no guesswork here, he simply can not win.
Originally posted by long pig
How many portals can you open at once?
I shall do the same then.
He says he will teleport me and find me with vision only. Well thanks to my Wavelength Analyzer I can pick any disturbances he makes in the Wavelength something he has no control over so I know where he is at all times and thanks to my many vision modes I can easily detect which way he is looking before he even has time to even see me. Then it is me simply sneaking around staying out of his sight. This of course with him not knowing the fact I know where he is. Then picking him off from behind with my spear or disk both self propelled added with my strength both Uber Metals and both very silent these weapons often dispatch very highly enhanced creatures with great sense like Aliens. Since his shield can't be stronger than Titanium it easily rips through him before he even hass a chance.
Even if Khell's guy finds me he then only has one attack that can hurt me thanks to my Armor also constructed out of Uber Metal leaving the only place he can attack my gut a space of 1 and ahalf feet wide and maybe a foot tall. This attack of course being a Chi Blast which is quite easy for me to avoid.
Also even in combat thanks to my helmet his teleportation is effectly nulled. Since as soon as he teleports his body reentering into a new place wil make a big distburance. DS a man with almost instant reflexs wilol be able to react with very little problem. He teleports far away I attack with three balsts at him all around cyclop's efective blast. His portal can only possibly get two at the most three is just to much for him. His only option teleport again.
He says he can redirect the blasts at me and attack me with Chi like I don't know where he is and I don't move at all. Scorpion is very agile and with DS as a base he more agile then before with DS's mind and the fact that his only attack a chi blast can't even hurt me unless he hits me in the gut. Hard to do against someone on the move and has almost instant reaction time. Oh also I have an advanced targeting system aiding me which locks onto the target and allow my cannon to be accuarte far better. He has his vision.
His only other option is to teleport close and try to catch me off guard. Well this is also flawed. Since my wave length Analyzer will alert me as soon as the disturbance of his teleportation happens. DS once hit someone before they could even say a word. You can count seconds so he can react faster than a second. So with DS's mind and Uber Eapons like his Promethium Sword I can probably hold it right where he teleports and stab him before he even knows what happened. I mean no matter what after the teleport it will take him a second to get his bearings on the situation and he wouldn't be expecting me to know where he is. I could aslo if I feel threatend simply put my arms with the Uber Metal Guantlets around my torso so his Chi Blast won't work. Then while he is trying to attack me or just right before I will either use my shoulder cannon and put a hole in his head or use my tail with a Pred Wristblade on the end which will cut right into the head basically ending the fight.
Also if you want proof of my Uber weapons fine. Alien Acid is shown to coorode anything even Titanium Hulls of ships. Basically it can eat through any compound found on Earth. Yet it can not eat through Pred Armor. Also Pred Caster Wepaons are shown to be able to put holes through Ships as well.
You are using the Batman comic. 😆 Like most crossovers like it was one side is completely toned down for the sake of something bigger. Remember when Lobo lost to Wolverine or Juggernaut got beaten in one puch from Superman. Yeah they are so accurate. Stick to their own comics. In it they commonly blast through many items and are said to be extremely tougher than any Earth bound or any planet metal or compound known.
Let's see I have I battle field genius with an ehanced mind and reflex's that allow me to to rect faster than a second and hit the Flash. My idiot also happens to be an incredibly strong agile person whose mind I'm not really using who since the base is now stronger is also stronger. From that comment alone about the Pred's though so me you know nothing of them. They ar a warrior race that holds honor higher than anything. And I have an Elder Pred highest Honor you can get. These guys are notorious for taking on Packs of Aliens which are all At least Sabertooth in Physical ability. They also more than often get rid of weapons like the Shoulder Cannon because they don't need it. They hunt other Pred's when they go rouge these guys are the baddest of the Bad. These aren't the Cowards Khell is trying to describe.
Originally posted by newjak86
Then it is me simply sneaking around staying out of his sight.
Originally posted by newjak86
Then picking him off from behind with my spear or disk both self propelled added with my strength both Uber Metals and both very silent these weapons often dispatch very highly enhanced creatures with great sense like Aliens.
Originally posted by newjak86
Even if Khell's guy finds me he then only has one attack that can hurt me thanks to my Armor also constructed out of Uber Metal
Originally posted by newjak86
leaving the only place he can attack my gut a space of 1 and ahalf feet wide and maybe a foot tall. This attack of course being a Chi Blast which is quite easy for me to avoid.
Originally posted by newjak86
He teleports far away I attack with three balsts at him all around cyclop's efective blast.
Originally posted by newjak86
Scorpion is very agile and with DS as a base he more agile then before with DS's mind
Originally posted by newjak86
He has his vision.
Originally posted by newjak86
So with DS's mind and Uber Eapons like his Promethium Sword I can probably hold it right where he teleports and stab him before he even knows what happened.
Originally posted by newjak86
I could aslo if I feel threatend simply put my arms with the Uber Metal Guantlets around my torso so his Chi Blast won't work.
Originally posted by newjak86
Also if you want proof of my Uber weapons fine. Alien Acid is shown to coorode anything even Titanium Hulls of ships. Basically it can eat through any compound found on Earth. Yet it can not eat through Pred Armor.
Originally posted by newjak86
Also Pred Caster Wepaons are shown to be able to put holes through Ships as well.
Originally posted by newjak86
You are using the Batman comic. 😆 Like most crossovers like it was one side is completely toned down for the sake of something bigger.
Originally posted by newjak86
They hunt other Pred's when they go rouge these guys are the baddest of the Bad. These aren't the Cowards Khell is trying to describe.
Khell's guy has to channel the energy through something to make portals, right? Like the javelins, or simply teleporting himself. That in and of itself should limit him from making an obscene amount at the same time, unless he can get off a bunch of javelins at once (which will do concussive damage if they hit or pick off projectiles and such). Otherwise, wouldn't it just be the ones from his hands? Or am I missing something?
Keep in mind, in making the picks able to be from outside comics, we made everything about those characters (within reason) canon. The Batman/Predator comic Khell cited is certainly worth note, and should be counted in voting consideration...but at the same time, the Predators are not limited to feats in their comic appearences. Anything can be used.
All I got for now...Vote though. Only about a day and a half left.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Khell's guy has to channel the energy through something to make portals, right? Like the javelins, or simply teleporting himself.
