616 wolverine vs ultimate captain america

Started by Grimm2216 pages

Originally posted by Bol Gath
The fact that he stunned the Hulk is just crappy writing. He would never even come close to doing that ❌

AND Wolverine is supposed to be the deadliest mutant on the planet in Ult, universe. I don't think ult.caps would win in a straight up fight, at least not in a fight to the death..

Why was that crappy writing 🤨

And no Wolverine is not the deadliest mutant on the planet 😐

Heck he wouldnt even make the top 100

wolverine for sure .

Well if Ultimate cap can stun the Hulk by sheer hand to hand combat, if he can survive regular plummets from planes, without a healing factor or a parachute, then I think Cap wins this.....

Exept that Regular Cap has stun the real Hulk and Namor and Logan has stalemated and had the upperhand on him. U.Cap would lose the majority considering he doesn't even want to engage ultimate Logan who's nothing compared to current Logan right now.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Why was that crappy writing 🤨

And no Wolverine is not the deadliest mutant on the planet 😐

Heck he wouldnt even make the top 100

I don't think we even seen 100 different mutants in Ultiverse....

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't think we even seen 100 different mutants in Ultiverse....
Ultiverse....😆

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Exept that Regular Cap has stun the real Hulk and Namor and Logan has stalemated and had the upperhand on him. U.Cap would lose the majority considering he doesn't even want to engage ultimate Logan who's nothing compared to current Logan right now.
he was strapped for time, so he just decided he would shoot him....didnt say anything bout not wanting to fight him.

Ultimate Cap for the win. Way too much for Wolvie to handle.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Agreed. Plus Ultimate Cap is a 2 ton lifter.

He has to be stronger than that 616 Cap can lift one ton.

Originally posted by snoopdogg

I dont even know if there is a difference between Ultimate Wolvie and 616 Wolvie.

Apparently Adamantuim is not indestructuble in the Ultimate Universe, its just extremely durable.

Originally posted by Warmonger
I say Cap beat up pym while he was pretty drunk and didn't even want to fight him, so it doesn't count either. Why should that count and the other not?

Well you know what dont you think that since Pym gets stronger as he grows that the alcohol would wear off? Its like if Bruce Banner was drunk and then turned into the Hulk, Hulk's metabolism would destroy the alcohol in his system.

Pym did not look drunk at all and he did want to fight him in the end he was pissed. Furthermore why did you think Cap wanted Pym to grow large, he wanted to humiliate him. If he wanted to fight a weak opponent he would have just beat up pym in normal form.

Ultimate Cap for the win. Way too much for Wolvie to handle.

To much? Logan's had the upperhand on the real Cap, who would defeat U.Cap imo.

Most of the time when U.Cap fights someone not that agile he gets tagged. Now think of Wolverine, exept instead of impact razar sharp claws lopping off his head. And Logan can take just as good or better punishment then U.Cap.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
To much? Logan's had the upperhand on the real Cap, who would defeat U.Cap imo.

Most of the time when U.Cap fights someone not that agile he gets tagged. Now think of Wolverine, exept instead of impact razar sharp claws lopping off his head. And Logan can take just as good or better punishment then U.Cap.

What! You think the normal 616 Cap could beat Ult Cap? 😆

Yes he could. U.Cap hasn't really done anything that 616-Cap couldn't do.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Yes he could. U.Cap hasn't really done anything that 616-Cap couldn't do.
Thats just not true, have you read the Ultimates? Ult Cap is much better then 616 Cap, heres the respect thread:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=384530

Seen it since I own most of U.Cap's appearances.

But mabey you need to see the original.
http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=100779

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Seen it since I own most of U.Cap's appearances.

But mabey you need to see the original.
http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=100779

you think any of those showings compare to trashing hank pym, or taking numerous punches from the hulk without getting splattered? also there is a scan of cap curling around 600lbs with ease.... Ult cap is just better

you think any of those showings compare to trashing hank pym, or taking numerous punches from the hulk without getting splattered? also there is a scan of cap curling around 600lbs with ease.... Ult cap is just bette

You think those are impressive, did you even look at the scans with Cap taking beatdowns from Namor and Ironman. 600lbs its more like 540. Cap curled like 500 so he isn't all that much stronger.

And recently Cap with his chainmail on carrying Bucky ran 1 minute per mile. Thats like 60mph! Plus Cap is more skilled.

616 Cap > Ultimate Cap IMO

Ultimate Cap is a little stronger, but 616 Cap still has more skill and experience. but it can be argued either way really

Originally posted by Daredevil1
You think those are impressive, did you even look at the scans with Cap taking beatdowns from Namor and Ironman. 600lbs its more like 540. Cap curled like 500 so he isn't all that much stronger.

And recently Cap with his chainmail on carrying Bucky ran 1 minute per mile. Thats like 60mph! Plus Cap is more skilled.

there were (6) 45lb weights on each side of the bar, so thats 12 all together, 12x45= 540+the standard 55lb bar 540+55= 595........ IMO 616 caps feats dont even compare to Ult caps:

there were (6) 45lb weights on each side of the bar, so thats 12 all together, 12x45=540+the standard 55lb bar 540+55=595........ IMO 616 caps feats dont even compare to Ult caps

The bar itself thats right, Cap showed he could bench 1100 lbs easily, so it still doesn't show as you say superior feats. Did you even see how U.Cap faired against his first street level fight against Nightowl. U.Cap did really crappy?

Those feats are not superior, as you say.

http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav1402ocd045do.jpg

Originally posted by Daredevil1
The bar itself thats right, Cap showed he could bench 1100 lbs easily, so it still doesn't show as you say superior feats. Did you even see how U.Cap faired against his first street level fight against Nightowl. U.Cap did really crappy?

Those feats are not superior, as you say.

http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav1402ocd045do.jpg


Issue #9:

The fight with Hank Pym:


http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ultimates09p038wh.jpg

http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ultimates09p046wz.jpg

http://img433.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ultimates09p056wu.jpg

http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ultimates09p069zs.jpg

http://img497.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ultimates09p079xj.jpg

http://img493.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ultimates09p087ui.jpg

http://img328.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ultimates09p093gx.jpg

http://img312.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ultimates09p105tp.jpg

http://img331.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ultimates09p110uc.jpg 616 cap just dosent compare

So???

Cap has defeated Rhino, Hyde, and Powerman. Thats still not superior, by any means at all.