Censorship

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Where did you work that first part out? You can buy porn mags in a regular store here, right off the top shelf. They're made available to everyone old enough to buy. Just because someone unstable is likely to buy one, doesn't mean it's aimed at them.

The way I see it, adults are adults. They don't need people to protect them. They don't need their porn mags to be censored, what's the point in censoring porn mags or videos? If a young kid is not monitored to the point that he/she can download any kind of shit on the net, then it's not the porn's fault.

Why should a normal man be subjected to censored porn purely on the off chance that an impressionable kid might get a hold of it and act it out? The violent acts are mostly on the net anyway, so if parents aren't keeping tabs on what their younger kids are doing online then whatever they see and however it affects them, is their own fault. Not to mention that if a kid sees a man strangling a woman in some internet snuff movie and decides it's "ok", then the parents haven't done a good enough job anyway.

I don't see why I should be stopped watching things I can handle just because there are people out there too irresponsible to control those they are responsible for, or themselves.

-AC

you just double talk yourself throughout posts......its always amusing though

A) I didn't.

B) Anyone actually want to discuss censorship as opposed to my posts?

-AC

Perhaps this might help .......stop using I in all your pieces. You do not represent everyone and you make pieces out about you not the discussion of everyone......censorship is good

This is you assuming I apply it to everyone. When I say "normal" it's always subjective unless it's something so accepted that it's considered normal. Though even then I realise it's subjective.

You always manage to suggest I'm leaving something out or contradicting myself when it's you who removes things from my post only to suggest I add it.

Censorship isn't "good" but it is necessary in some places. Those "some places" are becoming more and more frequent though.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
This is you assuming I apply it to everyone. When I say "normal" it's always subjective unless it's something so accepted that it's considered normal. Though even then I realise it's subjective.

You always manage to suggest I'm leaving something out or contradicting myself when it's you who removes things from my post only to suggest I add it.

Censorship isn't "good" but it is necessary in some places. Those "some places" are becoming more and more frequent though.

-AC

Censorship is good because as Jack Nicholson said in a few good men....."you cannot handle the truth" good or bad once again subjective to this however most people don't want to hear anything different then what they want or believe. So censorship is good🙂

And as always you always do leave something out of your posts.......the opinion that might vary from yours (bad joke I know)

Originally posted by soleran30
Censorship is good because as Jack Nicholson said in a few good men....."you cannot handle the truth" good or bad once again subjective to this however most people don't want to hear anything different then what they want or believe. So censorship is good🙂

With all due respect, he said it to Tom Cruise. There are many things he can't handle, like a good movie role. That's also subjective. Some can, some can't. Apparantly you can't, if you believe censorship is good. To me it's not.

Originally posted by soleran30
And as always you always do leave something out of your posts.......the opinion that might vary from yours (bad joke I know)

Hahahahaha, oh yeah. I just got it.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
With all due respect, he said it to Tom Cruise. There are many things he can't handle, like a good movie role. That's also subjective. Some can, some can't. Apparantly you can't, if you believe censorship is good. To me it's not.

Hahahahaha, oh yeah. I just got it.

-AC

Didn't you remind me to take it lightly (humor, sarcasm) Whenever you post , think, post, whatever its subjective cuz it came from ta dah you!

I do get alot of information about a great many things some I don't like to hear or appreciate and I assume the same with you however some things I hear I wouldn't like the public to know after watching media and how people react and these are "normal" people according to media. So censorship is good because if sensationalism unless we can take muckraking out of media......not likely so censorship is good

Yes and while you're preaching subjective belief you're acting as though censorship being good is fact.

Think about this.

-AC

Ok thought done censorship is A ok🙂 Sorry buddy but not everyone shares your view on responsibilty nor do they have your sensibilty to absorb some and ignore others. So I am once again A Ok with censorship aknowledging how people react to sensationalism and the media plays to this for money.

Oh and censorship being fact is simply subjective with what I feel is normal.

Originally posted by soleran30
Ok thought done censorship is A ok🙂 Sorry buddy but not everyone shares your view on responsibilty nor do they have your sensibilty to absorb some and ignore others. So I am once again A Ok with censorship aknowledging how people react to sensationalism and the media plays to this for money.

Oh and censorship being fact is simply subjective with what I feel is normal.

Yes, you feeling censorship is "good" is subjective. This is my point, so stop acting like it being "good" is a fact. It's not a fact as I am sure you are aware.

No need to look deeper than that, you went off on a tangent.

-AC

No sir you went off on a subjective tangent.......you feeling censorship is bad is very subjective.....it does serve a very significant purpose that most and as I said prior cannot handle......mock, dismiss, look beyond bottom line is that everything you discuss with me is subjective, at least I can describe why I am in reference to what I have seen experienced.

And just for fun everytime YOU describe anything its subjective to individual views🙂 Comical double talk!

I think some things need to be censored.

Originally posted by soleran30
No sir you went off on a subjective tangent.......you feeling censorship is bad is very subjective.....it does serve a very significant purpose that most and as I said prior cannot handle......mock, dismiss, look beyond bottom line is that everything you discuss with me is subjective, at least I can describe why I am in reference to what I have seen experienced.

And just for fun everytime YOU describe anything its subjective to individual views🙂 Comical double talk!

A) I never said censorship is bad. I said I don't think it's "good" but sometimes necessary. Don't put words in my mouth, don't assume. Got it? Splendid.

B) Again dodging the point that I have continually made and you continue to ignore. That being:

As much as my P.o.V is subjective, so is yours. As much as you can argue censorship to be good, I can counter it. I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm saying I don't agree.

You are agreeing with me and then changing what I say to give yourself something to reply to, I don't see the point. You're saying my view is subjective, I'm saying it is, then you're continually telling me my view is subjective.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
A) I never said censorship is bad. I said I don't think it's "good" but sometimes necessary. Don't put words in my mouth, don't assume. Got it? Splendid.

B) Again dodging the point that I have continually made and you continue to ignore. That being:

As much as my P.o.V is subjective, so is yours. As much as you can argue censorship to be good, I can counter it. I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm saying I don't agree.

You are agreeing with me and then changing what I say to give yourself something to reply to, I don't see the point. You're saying my view is subjective, I'm saying it is, then you're continually telling me my view is subjective.

-AC

Well hell i did misquote A. Sometimes I miss that and glad you did catch that. So on to B I never dodged your statment I simply responded to your P.O.V. i wasn't really arguing just displaying another view. In the end thanks I feel as though I understand your view. Censorship is good we both agree on that ok thanks.

Originally posted by soleran30
no no I realize that I was just trying to illustrate the fact if you pay for cable or a magazine or newspaper you could be funding that which you may not want to. Even if you don't watch TV but pay for it essentially you have supported it.....not a sermon just a thought....our media in USA is so mixed

no, i hear you on this. Sponsor/corporate relationships are very inter-related in this country, so it does make it difficult to make an impact with consumer choice. But I think to the extent brands are *almost* unilaterally aligned with a company (e.g. stern with sirius), you can make more of impact with your choice as a consumer.

speaking more to your point, when I pay my cable bill im supporting comcast and their channel selection. My support for a specific show/network is more accurately judged by nielsen ratings.

and as far as magazines, im supporting the magazine's company (if any), not their advertisers. Advertisers pay the magazine, not the other way around.

bump...

i just heard about all these famous people who are anti-censorship and speaking out. http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=57446 i thought it was interesting. what do you think?

Originally posted by crickey77
I keep reading in the news about censorship - movies, tv, radio, etc. Even just today I read something about the Howard Stern thing. I'm just curious what you guys think about it. Personally I am all for free speech and think these parent groups should just take responsibility for their own kids. I don't want them to change shows like Law and Order to accomodate some people. What do you think about the subject?

personally I think the war should be televised. in a way I feel detached from it. it does "feel" like we are at war. 😬

Yea but thats intense stuff, trust me...

yeah, that is definitely rough stuff.... but i think they should make stuff like that available for everyone imo and then parents can just monitor their kids and anyone else who doesn't want to watch.

Yes or no?

We were having a debate about this in my English class today. I said that I didn't think networks should be forced to censor what they broadcast.

My teacher posed the question, "What would you do if you found your young son watching some sort of pornography?" I couldn't really think of a good answer on the spot, so I said it should be up to the parents to censor what their kids watch since they have a legal resposibility over them.

What do you think?