How many?

the way Spelljammer refers to himself in third person reminds me of Doby from Harry Potter, can you imagine Bush having a house elf and the elf is on the net defending everything to the death...i can, look at his name, makes sense. well as much sense as his bush defences

Originally posted by tabby999
the way Spelljammer refers to himself in third person reminds me of Doby from Harry Potter, can you imagine Bush having a house elf and the elf is on the net defending everything to the death...i can, look at his name, makes sense. well as much sense as his bush defences

😂 so true. Everything is the liberals fault. You know I do believe this is projection. A form of a defense mechanism. When one knows they are the cause of the problem yet projects the problem upon someone else.

SJ ----> (projects problems) -----> Liberals.

Originally posted by Raven Guardia
😂 so true. Everything is the liberals fault. You know I do believe this is projection. A form of a defense mechanism. When one knows they are the cause of the problem yet projects the problem upon someone else.

SJ ----> (projects problems) -----> Liberals.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Uh, that's NOT projection.

uh, yes it is. when one projects problems onto another saying they are the blame its called projection.

let me give you the term from my Psych book

Projection- a defense mechanism in which an individual attributes to others his own unethical motives or thoughts, or places blame for his difficulties upon others.

SJ is placing blames about all the difficulties on the liberals, that is projection.

Originally posted by Raven Guardia
uh, yes it is. when one projects problems onto another saying they are the blame its called projection.

let me give you the term from my Psych book

Projection- a defense mechanism in which an individual attributes to others his own unethical motives or thoughts, or places blame for his difficulties upon others.

SJ is placing blames about all the difficulties on the liberals, that is projection.

To use a random (and crude) example.

and a very relevant one at that 😉

Originally posted by FeceMan
Projection is not saying, "Oh, you did it," because the speaker is actually at fault. Projection is, "Oh, you just want to bang me so badly," when the speaker wants sex.

To use a random (and crude) example.

ex: a student thinks about cheating on a test, when he decides not too he relieves his guilt by saying "Everybody else in the class cheats. I even saw chuck cheating and he is on the honor roll"

another ex: an irritable person may blame another person for being irritable.

if you look at the definition (Projection- a defense mechanism in which an individual attributes to others his own unethical motives or thoughts, or places blame for his difficulties upon others) you will see projection is also placing blame upon someone else for his difficulties.

Originally posted by Raven Guardia
ex: a student thinks about cheating on a test, when he decides not too he relieves his guilt by saying "Everybody else in the class cheats. I even saw chuck cheating and he is on the honor roll"

another ex: an irritable person may blame another person for being irritable.

if you look at the definition (Projection- a defense mechanism in which an individual attributes to others his own unethical motives or thoughts, or places blame for his difficulties upon others) you will see projection is also placing blame upon someone else for his difficulties.

And, unfortunately, we're going to have to agree to disagree. I cannot find a definition for projection at the APA's website.

Originally posted by FeceMan
I have never, ever seen a definition of projection involving the blame of difficulties. That's playing the blame game. Projection is all about emotions and motives.

And, unfortunately, we're going to have to agree to disagree. I cannot find a definition for projection at the APA's website.

well in Projection one can project motives and emotions, but they can also place blame.

and okay lets agree to disagree. Makes it a lot easier anyway 😂

Originally posted by Echuu

Think about it. I want you to consider for yourself first.

I have thought about it and I see little or no similarities at all between Japan as Afghanistan and Germany as Iraq. I would like to see why you believe this as I see it as complete nonsense.

Originally posted by Echuu
Just because tactics have changed doesn't give you a right to excuse the low amount of casualties and say they are 'high.' You also realize those 'early ninties' were Clinton right?

I believe the casualties are too high, on both sides. George bush was the president was president till 1993. Clinton was president from 1993 to 2001. Bush went to war with Iraq in 1991. In case you aren’t following, 1991 falls under the category of ‘early nineties’.

Originally posted by Echuu
I believe terrorists have killed more civilians than U.S. troops.

Well, you’d be wrong. Extensive bombing by the allies is responsible for more Iraqi civilian deaths than the terrorists.

Apparently around 41,000 U.S. soldiers believe they have inadvertantly killed one or more civilians.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
I have thought about it and I see little or no similarities at all between Japan as Afghanistan and Germany as Iraq. I would like to see why you believe this as I see it as complete nonsense.

I believe the casualties are too high, on both sides. George bush was the president was president till 1993. Clinton was president from 1993 to 2001. Bush went to war with Iraq in 1991. In case you aren’t following, 1991 falls under the category of ‘early nineties’.

Well, you’d be wrong. Extensive bombing by the allies is responsible for more Iraqi civilian deaths than the terrorists.

Okay then nevermind 😆 I must have stretched it a little too far if you can't get something out of it.

Good you finally have shown some of your 'intependent' thought instead of just attacking Bush. I agee with you on that one.

What about the suicide bombers like every week? Those aren't in combat with U.S. troops they are just slaughtering civilians. You would think that those casualties would be higher than those killed by U.S. troops.

Originally posted by Echuu
Okay then nevermind 😆 I must have stretched it a little too far if you can't get something out of it.

No, really, you stated that the conflict in Iraq was strikingly similar to WW2 more than once. Explain yourself.

Originally posted by Echuu
Good you finally have shown some of your 'intependent' thought instead of just attacking Bush. I agee with you on that one.

I was more correcting you on the fact that you ssaid that Clinton was president in the early 90's and not Bush, but whatever.

Originally posted by Echuu
What about the suicide bombers like every week? Those aren't in combat with U.S. troops they are just slaughtering civilians. You would think that those casualties would be higher than those killed by U.S. troops.

I wouldn't think that at all, you see, suicide bombers target specific areas, whereas more than one city in Iraq has been bombed by allied aircraft not to mention the thousands of tonnes of ordinance that has been dropped. Suicide bombers make papers because it's shocking. Killing civillians with american/allied bombs usually is kept as quiet as possible, however, organizations such as the red cross are willing to speak up.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
No, really, you stated that the conflict in Iraq was strikingly similar to WW2 more than once. Explain yourself.

I was more correcting you on the fact that you ssaid that Clinton was president in the early 90's and not Bush, but whatever.

I wouldn't think that at all, you see, suicide bombers target specific areas, whereas more than one city in Iraq has been bombed by allied aircraft not to mention the thousands of tonnes of ordinance that has been dropped. Suicide bombers make papers because it's shocking. Killing civillians with american/allied bombs usually is kept as quiet as possible, however, organizations such as the red cross are willing to speak up.

Well you said the casualties were high on both sides. I may have misunderstood you.

The Americans are accidentally killing them, not targeting them. That's the thing. Also remember that Saddam would purposely put civilians near military instilations.

As for the WWII thing... Japan attacks pearl harbor bringing the U.S. out of a period of isolationism. Afghanistan was the front for attacking the U.S. also bringing us out of a similar period brought on by Clinton(debateable). The U.S. then goes out and destroys the enemy... occupies, reforms their government etc etc.

Also I said the war on terror and Iraq are similar to WWII in some aspects.

Can I ask...

What if tomorrow most of the world bar USA joined together to remove Bush from power....
I mean hes got many WMD... hes invaded other countries without reason... half of the country didn't agree with him coming to power... he constantly lies to the country about his decisions... Hes used most of his power to gain more money for himself... Hes constantly using god as one of his cohorts... hes arrested people and tortured them without proof.. hes trying to break up the UN... Hes taken America out of the Geneva convention...

How long must America toil under the evil dictatorship of G. Bush???
I feel that I should take up arms and free the American people....!

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss

How long must America toil under the evil dictatorship of G. Bush???

It's still better then our last two presidents..

Clinton was incompetant, a pig, a rapist, and an idiot.

Senior Bush was a madman, he could barely make coherant speech. Much less lead a country.

"Senior Bush was a madman, he could barely make coherent speech. Much less lead a country."

YUP! father like son.... Give it 8 years and you might see it then!...

Can I ask spelljammer, how many guns do you own? what do you do for work? and have you been better off financially since bush has been in power?

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Can I ask spelljammer, how many guns do you own? what do you do for work? and have you been better off financially since bush has been in power?

Currently unemployed. Might have a job soon as a cross-gaurd though. It does have relations to authority despite it not seeming so. And because he'd be working for the state, he could make some friends and soon fine his way doing what he really wants. Police work.

SpellJammer's parents are deffinitly better now then they were under the Clinton administration. SpellJammer wouldn't say Bush directly was involved in that, but it sure helped. If Republicans didn't help the poor, why would so many vote for them?

What other good deads has bush done since hes come to power??

How do Republicans help the poor, exactly?

How does taking money away from welfare, healthcare, and education help the poor? How does cutting taxes for the top brackets, the people who can afford to pay them the most, help the poor?

Oh wait. It doesn't.

Hmmm.