Crimewatch - male on male sexual assault

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Crimewatch - male on male sexual assault

Crimewatch had a story on it last year where a male nurse was stabbed and robbed, he was then forced to give his attackers oral sex to completion.

Male on Male assault - why do they do it? Power? Sexual deviance?

Some statistics

http://after-words.org/malerape.htm

Humilation. Power Ego. The feeling of completely and utterly reducing a man to something LESS of a man.

It has nothing to do with sexual desire. It simply has to do with debasement and humilation.

Originally posted by Draco69
Humilation. Power Ego. The feeling of completely and utterly reducing a man to something LESS of a man.

It has nothing to do with sexual desire. It simply has to do with debasement and humilation.

Thats the line we are fed - but we could test that with the number of evil men that engage in homosexuality.

?????

If you mean that there are homosexual men that rape other men then that's worth acknowledgeable.

But the cases of male on male rape usually involve heterosexual men. Prison is evidence enough.

Also men who have raped have testimonied that is was much more thrilling to rape a man than a woman despite they were straight?

Why? It's more "fun" to humilate and debase a "big, powerful" man than a "defenseless, weak" woman.

And rape regardless of gender or sexual orientation has nothing to do with sexual desire. It simply has to do with self-gratification of one's ego.

Originally posted by Draco69
?????

If you mean that there are homosexual men that rape other men then that's worth acknowledgeable.

But the cases of male on male rape usually involve heterosexual men. Prison is evidence enough.

And rape regardless of gender or sexual orientation has nothing to do with sexual desire. It simply has to do with self-gratification of one's ego.

Some form of sexual gratification must go on in these supposed "heterosexuals" as they do orgasm.

As said before it has nothing to do with sexual desire. It more over has to do with completely dominating a person. Rapists don't get off on the person themselves. They get off because they reduced these persons to something less of person.

These are the same people who torture cats and such.

Originally posted by Draco69
As said before it has nothing to do with sexual desire. It more over has to do with completely dominating a person. Rapists don't get off on the person themselves. They get off because they reduced these persons to something less of person.

These are the same people who torture cats and such.

I have to agree...It's reducing others to feel empowered themselves. Many times these type of people come from abusive homes, but not all, and even if they do come from abusive homes, there are many who do not go that route...It's total power over someone else...They get a rush from it...Though some feel that it also stems from some genetics along with a bad history of violence growing up. 📖

Originally posted by Draco69
As said before it has nothing to do with sexual desire. It more over has to do with completely dominating a person. Rapists don't get off on the person themselves. They get off because they reduced these persons to something less of person.

I've always had a slight problem with that generalisation.

I am sure it makes up the vast majority of the cases, but I've always doubted that it applies to every single instance.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
I've always had a slight problem with that generalisation.

I am sure it makes up the vast majority of the cases, but I've always doubted that it applies to every single instance.

That's true. It can apply for instance for an ex-boyfriend who rapes his ex-girlfriend in her sleep. Or young gay man who fondles a man during his sleep. All of which are rape.

I think it could be to empower themselves, but also to have pleasurement, because they are not sexually active, why else would they do this to others?

Originally posted by Draco69
That's true. It can apply for instance for an ex-boyfriend who rapes his ex-girlfriend in her sleep. Or young gay man who fondles a man during his sleep. All of which are rape.

Your prison example raises an interesting point, because while you have the obvious theme of aggression and hierarchichal position, there is also the absence of any kind of sexual contact (if the participants are heterosexual).

I wonder which is the greater influence, or perhaps that's an example where they are dual motivations.

I've also read that for many people that engage in these activities, it's because it's hard for them to "get off" for what ever reasons and so they have to go into these kinds of activities to get some kind or arousal..

Rapists are sexually active beyond rapes they commit. Unless they're like completely hopeless in the looks department....

Which would still contain empowerment due to low self-esteem.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Your prison example raises an interesting point, because while you have the obvious theme of aggression and hierarchichal position, there is also the absence of any kind of sexual contact (if the participants are heterosexual).

I wonder which is the greater influence, or perhaps that's an example where they are dual motivations.

Almost always the former. It's all about grabbing as much power as possible in prison. The person who has the most submissives in prison is labeled the most powerful. Rape is also another way to sully a gang's or mob's name by raping a important member.

Men who do need to sate their sexual needs usually do so with their bunkmate.

not entirley true...not talking about the rapes they commited...

Originally posted by Saratn
not entirley true...not talking about the rapes they commited...

agreed Draco's generalisation ignore the sexual aspect of arousal. Which males need for penetration.

Male arousal can be keyed by pretty much anything. And power is quite arousing. My generalization is for the majority as said before. But there are cases where a rapist has had or feels attraction for the victim. But most male on male rapes are just plain violence.

Arousal can be sparked by anything. Hell you can get around just by thinking " I want to get aroused". Men are that horny.

Originally posted by Draco69
Male arousal can be keyed by pretty much anything. And power is quite arousing. My generalization is for the majority as said before. But there are cases where a rapist has had or feels attraction for the victim. But most male on male rapes are just plain violence.

Arousal can be sparked by anything. Hell you can get around just by thinking " I want to get aroused". Men are that horny.

I agree that power can be sexual, BDSM masochists get off on this, but....... and its a big but, I think the Shawshank redemption its only about violence is an over simplification. Sometimes I think it is homosexual men acting to get what they want in the same way heterosexual men do.. I think rapes for both sexes can be considered examples of violence and aggression - sometimes though a sexual aspect is present in both.

Many penetrative gay men even refer to themselves as "tops", highlighting an inequality in power exchange in gay relationships and showing the "top" considers himself the "man" in the realtionship.

Originally posted by Draco69
Humilation. Power Ego. The feeling of completely and utterly reducing a man to something LESS of a man.

It has nothing to do with sexual desire. It simply has to do with debasement and humilation.


i would bite the first guys pecker off at the base, then take out two or three of them before they killed me.

Let this thread sink to the bottom of the shit heap, where it belongs....