Who cares the villains? It will be man spider 3 again.

It will be the same betrayal again. Man spider again with organic webs. Mary jane as a clone of gwen stacy again. etc, etc. And they will make of venom, sandman and hobgoblin a bunch of clows like they did with the green goblin. Sad but true. It will be man spider 3 again.

best part of spidey was alfread as ock, the guy who played norman/gg was great but the suit blew

Agree with the willem dafoe part, he was great as norman osborn. But the costume sucked so much that it ruined his performance. Even the best actor in the world couldnt do anything with that costume.

About alfred molina, he is a very good actor and he did the best that he could with the material that they give him, but the character sucked because they showed him like a good and fine man of science controlled by the evil tentacles, when doc ock is a evil bastard in the comics. That ruined the character for me, in spite of the good acting by molina.

It's one of the many crying shames of the movies.They have some fine actors there.But they are not able to spread their wings and have their characters used to the fullest.

Totally agree, doc.

Originally posted by bakerboy
It will be the same betrayal again. Man spider again with organic webs. Mary jane as a clone of gwen stacy again. etc, etc. And they will make of venom, sandman and hobgoblin a bunch of clows like they did with the green goblin. Sad but true. It will be man spider 3 again.

Relax. If you don't like the movie, don't watch it. 😐

You don't need to rant about them.

lol yea and its spiderman dude but um i loved the movies even though they werent at their fullest potentiol and venom hobgoblin and sandman might not be villains.mary jane cloned?that wont be in a movie

Nope, spider man is the one from the comics. The guy from the movie is man spider, because the organics makes of him a freak, so he is man spider, nothing to do with spider man.

And mary jane isnt a clone of herself, is a clone of gwen stacey.

willem dafoe , thats his name! dude the part in the board room when they tell him they are selling the company. That guys a hell of an actor. tobey isnt half as good as him.

alfred molina is great too, you ever see him in boogy nights? He wasnt the comic ock, but he made you care about this good hearted scientist that lost control to AI arms. He was written to be someone you want to care about, not want to hate.

That was the screw up.

Ock is not supposed to be a sympathetic villain.You're supposed to hate him.

But I still think Alfred Molina was awesome as Ock.He tore New York city apart trying to rebuild his reactor of doom.

Originally posted by bakerboy
It will be the same betrayal again. Man spider again with organic webs. Mary jane as a clone of gwen stacy again. etc, etc. And they will make of venom, sandman and hobgoblin a bunch of clows like they did with the green goblin. Sad but true. It will be man spider 3 again.

He means personality wise.

She acts more like Gwen than she does MJ.

MJ is supposed to be a fun,easy going party girl.Not some whiney,glorified drama queen.

Originally posted by bakerboy
Agree with the willem dafoe part, he was great as norman osborn. But the costume sucked so much that it ruined his performance. Even the best actor in the world couldnt do anything with that costume.

About alfred molina, he is a very good actor and he did the best that he could with the material that they give him, but the character sucked because they showed him like a good and fine man of science controlled by the evil tentacles, when doc ock is a evil bastard in the comics. That ruined the character for me, in spite of the good acting by molina.

Yeah jimmy buggs and bakerboy are right.Defoe gave an amzing performance as Norman Osborn but the costume was such a joke it ruined his performance.Not even Lawrence olivia who is considered the greatest actor of all time could have been able to overcome that look of that horrible costume in man-spider and be a believeable villian.

Yeah and in man-spider two,Molina did a great job with the material given to him but the character sucked making him a nice man till the accident and then becoming good at the end.Thst sucked because like bakerboy said so well,ock is an evil bastard in the comics and they go and make him super nice guy in manspider two. 😠 that sucked also that he only became evil because he was manipulated by his tentacles.

Hopefully everything will be better in the trilogy movie. Everybody knows the third movie is suppose to be the best. See Star Wars episode 3.

Originally posted by bakerboy
Nope, spider man is the one from the comics. The guy from the movie is man spider, because the organics makes of him a freak, so he is man spider, nothing to do with spider man.

And mary jane isnt a clone of herself, is a clone of gwen stacey.

well said bakerboy. 👆

Originally posted by Jimmy Buggs
best part of spidey was alfread as ock, the guy who played norman/gg was great but the suit blew

ya, the GG power ranger suit blew. I like the Alex Ross conceptual image of GG. The Ock costume was cool 😎 i gotta admitt

Wasnt really a costume, just 4 tenticles...😄

But it was cool, alot more realistic looking than GG, That guy looked like he was about to go Trick-or-Treating 😆

Originally posted by bakerboy
It will be the same betrayal again. Man spider again with organic webs. Mary jane as a clone of gwen stacy again. etc, etc. And they will make of venom, sandman and hobgoblin a bunch of clows like they did with the green goblin. Sad but true. It will be man spider 3 again.

Then don't see it. 😐

For sure. I wont waste my money with that kind of crap.

Originally posted by Evil SeeD
Wasnt really a costume, just 4 tenticles...😄

But it was cool, alot more realistic looking than GG, That guy looked like he was about to go Trick-or-Treating 😆

well, Ock had a trench coat, a one point a vest and sunglasses, a certain kind of pants. and the way the tentacles looked were cool.

they should make the Goblin more reallistic, like creepy and scary. I dont want some little kid saying "i love green goblin!" i want that kid to be scared out of his diapers